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Pennylane
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posted April 06, 2012 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pennylane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus conjunct Mars in leo square pluto natally, and my Venus/Mars sextile Pluto with someone in synastry; it squares in the composite. Do my Venus and Mars being aspected by Pluto mean that I won't necessarily feel the traditional obsessiveness associated with being the Venus/Mars in this aspect?

I apologize if this has been asked before. I've looked and couldn't find something that answered this specifically.

Thank you!

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posted April 06, 2012 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
pluto would only add to that lol

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posted April 06, 2012 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pennylane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh. Haha for some reason i thought it would make me better equipped to deal with it. Le sigh.

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posted April 06, 2012 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 06, 2012 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capriquarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 06, 2012 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pennylane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
RunAround- does it ever feel like you always like someone more than they like you? This always happens to me and I'm wondering if this aspect has anything to do with it. It's either someone who I have no interest in whatsoever is obsessed with me, or I am obsessed with someone who doesn't like me as much as I like them. Or could it be my venus/mars quincunx neptune?

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posted April 07, 2012 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Pennylane:
RunAround- does it ever feel like you always like someone more than they like you? This always happens to me and I'm wondering if this aspect has anything to do with it. It's either someone who I have no interest in whatsoever is obsessed with me, or I am obsessed with someone who doesn't like me as much as I like them. Or could it be my venus/mars quincunx neptune?

YES! same thing happens to me! I also have both venus in mars quincunx neptune, (and saturn)

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posted April 07, 2012 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pennylane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Um, did we just become best friends?

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posted April 07, 2012 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Pennylane:
RunAround- does it ever feel like you always like someone more than they like you? This always happens to me and I'm wondering if this aspect has anything to do with it. It's either someone who I have no interest in whatsoever is obsessed with me, or I am obsessed with someone who doesn't like me as much as I like them. Or could it be my venus/mars quincunx neptune?

i have venus squaring mars and pluto and i have the same thing happen to me,the people i like never like me lol

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posted April 07, 2012 12:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 07, 2012 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 07, 2012 01:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
by the way! my venus mars conjunction is also in LEO

LOL

I think we did just become best friends

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posted April 07, 2012 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pennylane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whoa...I just read your other thread. The EXACT same thing happens to me. The funny thing is, I would say I have three best friends who I all met when I was 10, and they would literally die for me (and vice versa), and they are truly like sisters to me. However, when I first them, I had NO chemistry with them. I kind of thought they were strange (which is saying A LOT considering I'm a full on aqua rising) and I didn't think we would be friends at all.

The friends I meet now, it's exactly how you described. I have great initial chemistry with them, we bond very closely for about three months, but then I always feel like I'm more attached than they are. If I see they did something on facebook and didnt invite me, or ignore a text, or ignore something I said during a conversation, I get very butthurt about it (which I HATE. I hate that I'm so sensitive about s hit like that.)

Then I start "testing" them, like not contacting them and seeing how soon they contact me. Or I push them away and deliberately don't tell them something eventful that happened to me, and see if they are in any way mad that I didn't tell them (which, I totally would be, if one of my best friends didn't share something with me). Or I'll inadvertently act cold and if they don't ask me what's wrong, I get even more cold. It's all a vicious cycle until I convince myself that we were never really friends and any time they approach me after I've decided this, I reject any invitations and am pretty much decided to phase them out.

I know. I'm crazy. :P

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posted April 07, 2012 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do that same thing right down to the very last detail. We both have fire moons and air rising with cancer sun. We also have very similar aspects! I also have mercury opposite uranus and neptune. You have venus conjunct jupiter, i have mercury conjunct jupiter and my moon is sextile jupiter as well. Mercury conjunct jupiter especially is very similar to your moon in ninth house. You have mercury trine pluto, i have sun trine pluto. We are both philosophical and interested in life's mysteries but i am more so.

Mercury opposite uranus means we say things that make no sense, and blurt things out that are shocking and upset people.

It's pretty crazy how we both do the exact same thing, though. I wonder if aquaguy does too.

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posted April 07, 2012 02:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pennylane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It makes me really sad to hear that. I'm not just saying that.

I don't know if I made this point as clearly as I wanted to in my other post, but what I wanted to say was that I ended up becoming best friends with people who I never in a million years thought I would be friends with, mainly because we didn't hit it off *right* away. I'm the kind of person that, if there's no INSTANTANEOUS connection with someone, I can't be bothered to pursue any kind of relationship with them. I don't know if youre the same way, but if you are, maybe try to be more open to hanging out with people who you never dreamed you'd be friends with.

And I know we literally just met lol but feel free to message me or something! I'm always open to talking

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posted April 07, 2012 02:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pennylane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Mercury opposite uranus means we say things that make no sense, and blurt things out that are shocking and upset people.


haha! I din't know that! I hadn't obsessively looked up that aspect like I have all my other aspects. that's hilarious. I always I say the most awkward things or make jokes I *know* no one will get. It is invariably followed by a confused look. I get off on it lol. My aqua rising loves to get a rise out of people I guess

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posted April 07, 2012 03:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 07, 2012 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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haha! I din't know that! [b]I hadn't obsessively looked up that aspect like I have all my other aspects. that's hilarious. I always I say the most awkward things or make jokes I *know* no one will get. It is invariably followed by a confused look. I get off on it lol. My aqua rising loves to get a rise out of people I guess[/B]


lolol....I totally do that with my aspects, too. haha.

It helps, though ^^

Like if i hadnt looked up what my libra rising meant, i would have no idea why i'm always passive while my friends are the initiators, and why i just dont vibe with shy people, even though i'm quite shy myself.

Without looking up my aqua north node i'd have no idea that i really should listen to tose humanitarian instincts bubbling inside of me and take them seriously, bc it's not silly, and it's what's gonna make me happy

Or if i hadnt looked up all my other stuff i wouldnt know that i'm supposed to do something in regards to communicating some important message to the world. And i might have left behind my dream of being a great philosopher for doing something that earns a lot more money

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posted April 07, 2012 03:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pennylane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha that's so bizzare how accurate that is! And no, I've never had a friend with that aspect unfortunately. The person who I would say I laugh the most with has her moon in cancer which means we both have the same "loony" sense of humor.

And gurl. meet new people! are you involved in any groups or activities? And I agree about the guy thing...I know right away whether I like a guy or not and just can not force myself to feel otherwise. it's definitely an all or nothing kind of thing. There have been guys that liked me and everyone would tell me to just "give him a chance"... but I think it's almost crueler to lead someone on like that when you know you're never going to develop intense feelings for them

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posted April 07, 2012 03:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pennylane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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lolol....I totally do that with my aspects, too. haha.

It helps, though ^^

Like if i hadnt looked up what my libra rising meant, i would have no idea why i'm always passive while my friends are the initiators, and why i just dont vibe with shy people, even though i'm quite shy myself.

Without looking up my aqua north node i'd have no idea that i really should listen to tose humanitarian instincts bubbling inside of me and take them seriously, bc it's not silly, and it's what's gonna make me happy

Or if i hadnt looked up all my other stuff i wouldnt know that i'm supposed to do something in regards to communicating some important message to the world. And i might have left behind my dream of being a great philosopher for doing something that earns a lot more money


JEALOUS. I've always heard about how good looking libra risings are! but YES I'm SO glad I looked up what my ascendant sign was. I could never understand why I never felt like I didn't fit in with anyone. Even with people who I get along with, even my very best friends who I can say anything to, there was always something about me that felt like I was an alien. It never bothered me, I always loved feeling different. lo and behold, now I know it's something trademark to Aqua rising

and dont even get me started on venus conjunct mars. I could write a freaking book on that aspect, I've looked it so much

the last thing...i can't tell you how much I agree. My whole life, I've wanted to be an actress. I can't explain it but I have this weird confidence/insecurity about it...like I'm constantly doubting my abilities but underneath it all I feel I am talented and could succeed if I really worked at it. but I really really let my fear of failure debiliate me. and if I hadn't looked up my aspects constantly encouraging me to pursue artistic endeavors and confirming that I indeed do have talent then I never would have pursued it professionally. it's nice to have a little reassurance, ya know?

that is too cool about becoming a philosopher. do you eventually want to teach it, write books, do seminars?

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posted April 07, 2012 04:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 07, 2012 04:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey where do you live? Lol we're both up so late!

Can I add you on facebook?

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Don't quote that pretty please! Wouldnt want it to stay on ta inter webz far evarz...! pwahaha

^^^^ haha i think that's a good example of the mercury-opposite-uranus sense of humor? lol.

Yeah, I totally get you, like, I feel it would be so much harder to take my philosophy interests or w/e seriously because my dad wanted me to become a pharmacist so bad, or something that earned more money. I do hope I will give seminars at least, eventually. I'm actually getting a psychology degree but that's basically my main interesting, philosophy. It's the same thing, really haha. Except you're giving people advice directly, i guess. What are you doing related to acting right now? EEK. That's so exciting

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posted April 07, 2012 04:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
by the way, our compatibility is good but also bad haha. like we have this sun-mercury-jupiter stellium in the composite which is an awesome stellium...secondbest to the love stellium =0), but then it's squared by saturn neptune and uranus and so is the moon! pwaha..terrible, terrible, i tells ya.

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posted April 07, 2012 04:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pennylane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Riiiight? I dont get that whole thing about giving people chances either lol. I think those people are confused...

If I wanted to give them a chance it's because i know i like them a little and want to see if i like them more as i get to know them.

If i DONT want to give them a chance haha, it's because I think they're annoying or strange, and that probably won't change. O_O

If we were meant to be, we would at least start out as friends...and that means i already like 'em a lil, so i'll automatically give 'em a chance

even if they're butt ugly. lolol.


Lol i'm actually good i think =0)...i'm doing okay...Thank you, sweetie.
I feel like i need to take a break from the best friends thing, because all my life i've only been able to be either your best friend or nothing..no inbetween. And that was very demanding and consuming. I am enjoying my time right now with not having someone down my throat about how i dont call them enough, or me worrying about how they dont call me enough, or how i dont like the friends they hang out with, or how they are changing into completely diff people and letting go of their morals etc etc whatever the case may be. And i'm just enjoying having acquaintances i can laugh and have a blast with, without the comitmment of being labeled "best friends." I do update my closer acquaintances about my life when i see them, and we talk about guys, and how its going with everything and personal things etc. lol. So it's not like i have no one to talk to. But i am somewhat tired of dealing with people and their hypocrisy i guess and their inability to look at their own faults..i feel like i'm the one being the most dedicated in friendships, and i'm tired. Even with guys i'm ignoring them and letting them talk to me first every single time, bc i just dont want to deal with it anymore.

We venus-pluto and venus conjunct mars people are pretty all or nothing people, huh? I have pluto in my first house, too, btw.


Kudos to you. I, too, always feel like I'm either someone's best friend or not their friend at all. Unfortunately my moon sign in sag tends to make me feel at odds with my needy sun sign. I get suffocated rather easily if I don't get my space and my fair share of alone, unscheduled time for me to do what I want. One of the best friends I was talking about likes to talk on the phone every. single. day. for like an hour. Another one likes hanging out every day. Which is very nie, and better than the alternative of course, but sometimes I have such a strong need to just be alone. Not in a depressing way, but I like knowing I have the freedom to do this or that with my day. I hate feeling bound to restrictions in any way

Hey, dumb question, but I thought my pluto was in my ninth house? how are you able to tell what planet is in what house? ive looked this up before and its always gibberish to me

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posted April 07, 2012 04:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pennylane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haha I live in Dallas. I just added you! I'm the one with no profile picture lol. P.S. is it ok to not mention astrology on the wall...I think people already think I'm cray cray enough. lol.

Ahh, psychology. That was amongst one of my majors. I was also theater, journalism, and poli sci. Now I'm French. I change my mind a lot.

And as of right now, I'm just taking some classes at a nearby studio to get my feet wet again. I haven't acted in years. I've been wanting to audition more and do more active things within the acting community but the mercury/mars retrograde has been brutal on me. I feel like anytime I try to go for it I hit a red light :/


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