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Topic: Exotic looking
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Geminisquared
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posted April 08, 2012 12:25 PM
  
I've always been extremely exotic looking the thing is both of my parents are primarily white, blonde hair and blue eyes. My sister has a blonde hair too. I physically look like both of my parents of course I just have jet black hair olive skin and large brown eyes and my features are slightly more exotic . I'm just curious if any aspects could make one seem more biracial looking.I know how genetics play in.
I have no planets in the 9th house :PIP: Logged |
inthemisosoup
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posted April 08, 2012 12:33 PM
Look up genotype vs. phenotype. This happens all the time.I don't mean to dismiss astrology as a possible factor, but the science is also very relevant and in IMO fascinating. Does good to learn it. IP: Logged |
Geminisquared
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posted April 08, 2012 03:33 PM
lo Thanks I know basic science. I asked about astrology. If we trace my family history it would be extremely unlikely I would look the way I would. We all know in astrology scorpio look intense with powerful eyes, Libras are charming usually docile looking. So why can't this be a possibility.IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted April 08, 2012 03:37 PM
Usually Capricorn ASC gives a darker complexion and dark hair.Maybe ASC/Saturn aspects, too. Do you have any of that? IP: Logged |
tautomer4314
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posted April 08, 2012 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by Geminisquared:
lo Thanks I know basic science. I asked about astrology. If we trace my family history it would be extremely unlikely I would look the way I would. We all know in astrology scorpio look intense with powerful eyes, Libras are charming usually docile looking. So why can't this be a possibility.
Science is everything, explains something, and is something that can not be denied in any case because it is factual proven truth. In this case biology is at play, which is very well understood, and therefore there is a rational scientific explaination. When it comes to something like this, it CAN explain it, and that's that. The answer may not be cut and dry, but it is what it is. It's likely due to a combination of epigenetics and a lot of recessive genes coming together at once. It might show up in astrology, but there will ALWAYS be a scientific explaination. ------------------
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vickymadness
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posted April 08, 2012 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by Geminisquared:
I've always been extremely exotic looking the thing is both of my parents are primarily white, blonde hair and blue eyes. My sister has a blonde hair too. I physically look like both of my parents of course I just have jet black hair olive skin and large brown eyes and my features are slightly more exotic . I'm just curious if any aspects could make one seem more biracial looking.I know how genetics play in.
I have no planets in the 9th house :P
I look different too. No one would guess that my brothers or sisters are really my siblings ... No one can determine my ethnicity as well. Don't you love it ?  Anyway I have My ASC in Aqua , first decan.
ASC conjunct Saturn and squaring both Venus and Pluto. I also have my chart ruler squaring Venus, and Uranus trining Venus.
I also have a minor aspect between Uranus and my ASC. That's maybe contributed to my exotic face IP: Logged |
inthemisosoup
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posted April 08, 2012 04:37 PM
I don't understand how having olive skin and black hair makes you look "biracial." You just have darker skin than the rest of your immediate family, as do I. Astrologically, I don't see how it's that relevant. I don't look anything like the physical description of an Aqua ascendant, which I am, other than the square head shape (which my mother's side of the family has). It's all sort of how you externally present yourself that shows ascendant/ascendant aspects. Yes, I believe your appearance is modified by ascendant/ascendant aspects but in a minor way, filtered through what is already decided genetically. Astrology is not going to make you necessarily more "exotic" looking than the rest of your family (exotic being a relative term anyway, I'm not sure what you mean here). It is merely going to change the way you present or project yourself. What you're describing is merely recessive traits in your family finally being expressed.EDIT: I just wanted to add that I don't intend to come off as critical or dismissive. I just think you are looking for answers from the wrong source. I too look nothing like my family, in fact, coincidentally, at today's Easter dinner my family all discussed how I look nothing like my immediate family members, so I understand where you're coming from. Genetics, however, is still the reason behind most of it, IMO. IP: Logged |
tautomer4314
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posted April 08, 2012 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by inthemisosoup:
I don't understand how having olive skin and black hair makes you look "biracial." You just have darker skin than the rest of your immediate family, as do I. Astrologically, I don't see how it's that relevant. I don't look anything like the physical description of an Aqua ascendant, which I am, other than the square head shape (which my mother's side of the family has). It's all sort of how you externally present yourself that shows ascendant/ascendant aspects. Yes, I believe your appearance is modified by ascendant/ascendant aspects but in a minor way, filtered through what is already decided genetically. Astrology is not going to make you necessarily more "exotic" looking than the rest of your family (exotic being a relative term anyway, I'm not sure what you mean here). It is merely going to change the way you present or project yourself. What you're describing is merely recessive traits in your family finally being expressed.
And I will be a parrot and echo this. I've seen pictures of you before and I do agree that you do look to be of mixed ethnicity, but I don't think that has much to do at all with astrology. ------------------
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SmilingHeart
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posted April 08, 2012 05:02 PM
What does 'exotic looking' mean?
Anything non-white?
I don't know where you come from but where I live it isn't that uncommon to look a bit different from the rest of your family. I don't think many people realize this but there is a huge gene pool we all can draw on. Europeans here come out with "asian looking" eyes, kinky hair, darker skin etc.
Maybe there is an astrological indicator for it.
Maybe you have something in common with one of your ancestors (rising sign etc.) that makes you look more like them.
I look like my maternal grandma alot who was a Cancer and I have my moon in cancer. Maybe that's a clue?IP: Logged |
alaz7200
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posted April 09, 2012 12:32 AM
Technically-speaking, if both of your parents have blonde hair and blue eyes, there is no way you would not have blonde hair and blue eyes. Recessive genes 101.Perhaps your father isn't your biological father? IP: Logged |
mintgirl123
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posted April 09, 2012 12:47 AM
I learnt in science when I was 14 that blue eyes was a recessive gene, so if one of your parents had darker features, you would have darker features (most likely case). But since both of your parents are fair... It's quite strange that you aren't the same way?? IP: Logged |
RedScorp
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posted April 09, 2012 12:55 AM
Yeah, what's with that? Like...both being fair and blue eyed, you should be the same...IP: Logged |
tautomer4314
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posted April 09, 2012 01:05 AM
There are some recessive genes that don't follow the exact order or punnet squares. It's extremely rare but it is possible for someone to have brown eyes from two blue eye parents. The reason for this is the genetics for eye color (and most any physical trait) is controlled by about 6 or more genes. My cousin is actually an example of strange recessive genes. The gene for straight hair is recessive, and both of his parents have very fine straight hair. My cousin has rather curly thick wavy hair. Yet, he is very clearly without question their child. There's also videos to prove it. He somehow got some strange gene combination that violated the simplistic view of genetic inheritence. ------------------
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Lonake
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posted April 09, 2012 03:57 AM
Could be Uranus in strong aspect (conj sq opp tr, 3 deg orb) to sun/moon/asc/asc ruler/venus. People have thought that I'm french/romanian/italian/middle eastern. But no, I just have Sun as ASC ruler sq Uranus & Uranus is trine the ASC. Gives something extra, something different. Some of em just ask 'what are you.' I'm just half & half -- dad's family from england & mother's family from spain. If it's not Uranus, then look to Aqua or like you said Scorp or maybe Pluto. I have Pluto aspecting sun/moon/merc/venus/mars/saturn/nept/mc/asc. That could give a darker, more foreign look. Maybe Capricorn too like Doux said, that's a possibility. I have Moon/Venus in Cap & Saturn aspects them both. I've read that Capricorn Moon/Venus men are attracted to exotic women so maybe there is a connection there. Vickymadness has the same thing, she has Pluto, Uranus/Aqua & Saturn in the mix. I have a mix of those as well. Maybe that's a combo to look for...? IP: Logged |
Deliverance
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posted April 09, 2012 07:56 AM
The word "Exotic" gives me shivers TBH.....IP: Logged |
JohnFKennedy
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posted April 09, 2012 09:40 AM
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Originally posted by Deliverance:
The word "Exotic" gives me shivers TBH.....
Agreed. Any actual person of color hates being referred to as this, for the most part. IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted April 09, 2012 12:20 PM
To be frank: if both of your parents have recessive genes and your genes are dominant, the odds of your father being your biological father are very slim.IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted April 09, 2012 12:25 PM
People always act like this isn't even a possibility when faced with this obvious answer but as is the case in life, the simplest answer is usually the correct one:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/woman/re al_life/170510/1-in-10-dads-are-raising-another-mans-child-brand-do-not-know-it.html
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SmilingHeart
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posted April 09, 2012 05:36 PM
This is actually not that uncommon. The things we learned about recessive and dominant genes in highschool are antiquated and were simplified.
You carry all sorts of genetic material with you that will sooner or later show in one of your descendants.
I mean you always could look into the possibility that your father isn't actually your father but I think that may be overreacting a bit.IP: Logged |
scrappydog
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posted April 09, 2012 05:41 PM
I know gentics/science has a strong influence in this and im not gonna comment on that. But just staying to the topic of "exotic looking" in astrology I would say a strong pluto or uranus or chiron. I know I have pluto conj the sun 1* and chiron in 1st conj asc 2* and people are always like "where did you come from?" Sometimes they even look at me with wide eyes.I get it from complete strangers. Its strange, but I get it all the time, and people always ask about my heritage which is pretty standard/common for an american, im a mutt lol. IP: Logged |
Deliverance
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posted April 09, 2012 05:50 PM
Scrappydog and Geminisquared , what do you mean by the term "exotic looking". What defines someone as exotic?IP: Logged |
Sorcha
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posted April 09, 2012 06:47 PM
I agree with Deliverance. I think exotic is fairly subjective. For example, by North American standards, I am very generic looking. Dark blond hair, blue eyes, quite pale, etc etc. But whenever I travel to places like India or Nepal I get stared at since to them, I am very different or, theoretically, exotic looking. I had children in Nepal fascinated with my hair and eyes because I looked so different from them so I'm not sure you could find that in a chart. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted April 09, 2012 09:09 PM
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Originally posted by JohnFKennedy:
Agreed. Any actual person of color hates being referred to as this, for the most part.
And it is one the strongest compliments from where I come from.  IP: Logged |
alaz7200
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posted April 09, 2012 09:52 PM
I have found that more often than not, recessive genes can be traced back if they're searched for adequately. Asking Mom or Dad can reveal that "oh yes, I remember hearing that my great-grandfather had green eyes", or "yes, I had a grandmother whose hair was so blonde, it was almost white!"I don't buy the modern day plea that older methods of deciphering genetics were far too antiquated. Personally, I have an olive complexion, jet black hair and bright blue eyes. I'm of Persian/Latin descent, and of my extended family, I've only 1 second-cousin with blue eyes. After my high school discussion of recessive genes, it got me to thinking, "why am I the only one of my siblings with blue eyes?" I asked my mother and father... My mother had no idea of any relatives of hers who had blue eyes; however, after asking my grandfather, it turns out his mother's father had blue eyes -- he also had many cousins with blue eyes and red hair... quite unusual in a South American country. Apparently, my mother carried the gene 4 generations before it revealed itself in me. My father's great grandfather also had blue eyes. Note, however, that both my parents have very dark brown eyes. IP: Logged |
alaz7200
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posted April 09, 2012 09:55 PM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
Could be Uranus in strong aspect (conj sq opp tr, 3 deg orb) to sun/moon/asc/asc ruler/venus. People have thought that I'm french/romanian/italian/middle eastern. But no, I just have Sun as ASC ruler sq Uranus & Uranus is trine the ASC. Gives something extra, something different. Some of em just ask 'what are you.' I'm just half & half -- dad's family from england & mother's family from spain. If it's not Uranus, then look to Aqua or like you said Scorp or maybe Pluto. I have Pluto aspecting sun/moon/merc/venus/mars/saturn/nept/mc/asc. That could give a darker, more foreign look. Maybe Capricorn too like Doux said, that's a possibility. I have Moon/Venus in Cap & Saturn aspects them both. I've read that Capricorn Moon/Venus men are attracted to exotic women so maybe there is a connection there. Vickymadness has the same thing, she has Pluto, Uranus/Aqua & Saturn in the mix. I have a mix of those as well. Maybe that's a combo to look for...?
I get the French/Romanian/Turkish/Greek thing, too. Unfortunately, "none of the above." I am always described as "exotic" looking, and to be honest, I don't know if I like it or dislike it - it is what it is. It's most likely just the contrast of blue eyes/olive complexion/black hair/prominent cheekbones. Anyway, I thought it was worth mentioning that I have Uranus in Capricorn exact square to ASC in Libra (Aquarius decan). I also have Venus conj. Pluto, for what it's worth. I honestly probably get asked at LEAST a few times a week, "What are you?" I don't think that's normal!!! I have never once asked or really cared where someone was from based on looks alone. Now, if I were to overhear them speaking a foreign language, then that's another story.... IP: Logged |
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