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planet9
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posted April 10, 2012 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for planet9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Bogart-Bacall marriage was perhaps the most famous successful Hollywood marriage, lasting from 1945 until Bogart died in 1957, and a marriage in which the pair obviously loved one another. So let's take a look at the Bogart-Bacall synastry.

I obtained their birth data from http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Bogart,_Humphrey and http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Bacall,_Lauren . Here is a screenshot from the Planetary Aspects and Transits program showing their synastry aspects (Bogart's planets along the top, Bacall's down the side):

Here is the corresponding chart (red=square, green=trine, purple=opposition):

Here is the report on the aspects in this synastry:

Now, looking at this synastry, and not knowing who it concerns, what would be your prognosis? His Venus is exactly square to her Moon, and is square to her Saturn (less than 2 degrees from exact). This would not seem favorable to a loving relationship. But since this was a loving relationship, there must surely be other aspects in the synastry which suggest this, yes? What would they be?

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posted April 10, 2012 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BackToEarth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Humphrey Bogart's Sun, Venus & Mars in Capricorn with Lauren Bacall's Cancer Ascendant. Wow!

Don't know that it was a "successful" relationship, I read Lauren Bacall's Autobiography a while back. But it was Wow!

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posted April 10, 2012 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It sucks that Humphrey Bogart's birth time is unverified But I'm looking at their composite right meow.

Very wide stellium of Mercury, Venus and Sun... so wide that I don't even think I can call it a stellium. But Sun trine Moon is nice. Venus square Mars/Uranus certainly indicates attraction but this is a good example of a relationship lasting a long time even with Venus squaring Uranus.

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posted April 10, 2012 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If his birthtime is correct despite being unverified, the T-square of Moon-Saturn-Venus involves both chartruler and her DESC-ruler.
The energy triggered by this must have been very intense, though of course not easy.


But she has a Moon-Saturn-opposition, indicating that she doesn´t really look for an "easy" relationship.

his chartruler and of course Sun and Mars being in Capricorn show that he vibes with Saturn as well.

So their synastry reflects closely their natal pattern/ emphasis, which is what I have found to be very prevalent in lasting relationships (not sure how to define "success").

His Venus directs the focus very much onto relationships for her, as it falls onto her DESC, so I definitely can see the draw (I do not think it was always easy-breezy though).

HIs Sun is on the antision of Saturn - so as a matter of fact she has natally Moon-SAturn, he has Sun-Saturn, that is a fit through Saturn.


another complementary aspect exists in synastry, again through Saturn, as
his Venus squares her Saturn
her Mars sextiles his Saturn


Another "winner" is his Mercury-Uranus-conjunction falling onto her Jupiter in her 5th house. Must have been quite sparkly.

Also His Mercury-Uranus is in Sagittarius, vibing with Jupiter.
While her Jupiter has a strong aspect with Mercury. So both are familiar with the Mercury-Jupiter-energy.
Maybe he was sometimes too zany and "out there" for her liking, with her Virgo_Mercury squaring this, but then again she was herself familiar with that battle between common sense and pragmatism and overflowing enthusiasm in her own personality.


And they have had some stability aspects as well as his Saturn trine her Moon and sextile her Mars for example.
This is a very harmonious "closed circuit", consisting of the very stable trine and a more stimulating sextile.

her Saturn connects with his Venus-Jupiter-aspect also bringing stability into his romantic life, but in a less harmonious way with her Saturn squaring his Venus. But maybe he needed a "firm hand" or a very structuring influence.

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posted April 10, 2012 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnFKennedy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now this is a topic I can get behind! I think about their relationship all the time. Such a fascinating one. Their dynamic really was something else - aside from their physical looks, you could hardly tell the drastic age difference between them on screen. They both have a seductive and intellectual prowess that couldn't be matched by anyone else within their respective generations.

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