posted April 12, 2012 06:59 AM            

In the summer of 1941, delegates at the American Federation of Scientific Astrologers’ convention in Cleveland, Ohio, listened to a keynote address from an astrologer named Louis de Wohl. The bespectacled German-Hungarian—late thirties, rather corpulent, flamboyant in dress and confident in manner—told his rapt audience that Hitler was operating under advice from “the best astrologers in Germany,” who had plotted out the course for Germany to attack the U.S. The invasion, it seemed, would occur sometime after the following spring, once Saturn and Uranus, the two “malefic” planets, had entered Gemini, America’s ruling sign: “America,” he warned, “has always been subject to grave events when Uranus transits Gemini.”

Quite an interesting article. You can read it here.

Saturn and Uranus will both be in Gemini starting June 1, 2030 (as found via the PAT software), and Saturn moves into Cancer on July 14, 2032 (and Uranus in August).

The YPT software gives us further information: Saturn and Uranus move toward a conjunction but get no closer than 4°14' on October 7, 2031. They then recede, but in 2032 they again approach one another, forming an exact conjunction on June 28, 2032. This is shown in the following screenshot:

Here's how it looks in PAT (red=square, light blue=sextile, gray=quincunx):

posted April 12, 2012 12:00 PM            

Although, Saturn and Uranus kind of remind me of what we're dealing with right now in our bipartisan leadership. Freedom and self expression on one side and repression and responsibility on the other... neither right and neither wrong.

Maybe them being conjunct, in Gemini (signaling America as the article suggests) is a good thing. Two sides working directly with one another, or having a major confrontation? Without outside aspects to either planet, maybe that's what it means.

posted April 12, 2012 12:09 PM            

Maybe that means whatever happens we'll be looking towards England for guidance/change or help. (Going to guess England is Cancer since it is referred to as "The Mother Country" so often), Or that whatever conflict that starts with us will move be headed towards England/Western Europe shortly thereafter.

posted April 12, 2012 09:33 PM            

Actually the PAT chart shows that the Sun is conjunct to both (yellow=conjunction), but just barely (9° 19'). But if we step back a few weeks then we find that in late May 2032 the Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Saturn and Uranus start to bunch up. Except for Mercury (which moves on) they stay bunched up until late June.

A 4-stellium is a configuration of four planets which are pairwise conjunct relative to a 10° orb. Using the PAT software we find that (at this time) the first of these (consisting of Mercury, Mars, Saturn and Uranus) occurs on May 29, 2032.

On June 7 there are six 4-stellia, involving all six planets, as shown below:

Most of these persist until June 22, 2032, on which date there are five 4-stellia, as shown below:

This is just six days before the exact Saturn-Uranus conjunction mentioned in a previous message.

The 3-stellium of Sun, Venus and Mars persists until July 8, 2032, on which date Neptune is almost exactly square to Mars and the Sun, as shown below:

posted April 12, 2012 09:38 PM            

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Originally posted by planet9:
Sashar said: "With no other aspects to Saturn/Uranus ..."

Actually the PAT chart shows that the Sun is conjunct to both (yellow=conjunction), but just barely (9° 19'). But if we step back a few days then we find that in late May 2032 the Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Saturn and Uranus start to bunch up. Except for Mercury (which moves on) they stay bunched up until late June.

A 4-stellium is a configuration of four planets which are pairwise conjunct relative to a 10° orb.

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Sorry, saw the lines but wasn't sure on the degree. That completely changes everything. Unsure what to think about it... especially with having no experience with looking at this type of info.

On a side note though, that five planet stellium looks incredibly interesting.

posted April 13, 2012 06:44 AM            

I used the PAT software to investigate this further, and found that this is actually a 5-stellium. It is tightest at 4:30 GMT on June 17, 2032, with the Sun and Saturn both at 26°33' in Gemini and Mars at 3°36' in Cancer, with Venus and Uranus between them.