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Nine Knowflake Posts: 952 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted April 14, 2012 08:35 PM
My mom always says, I'm a very nice person. Ask anyone and they'll tell you I'm a very nice person. Well mamma, people tell you that when they're about to manipulate you.Generally I've gotten along with most Scorpios. But as a kid, my Scorpio-Leo mom was the meanest person I knew. At the close of her longest relationship, her Saggi-Cap ex accused her of not having a heart. IP: Logged |
Lonake Moderator Posts: 7126 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 14, 2012 08:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by Geminisquared: sometimes I think I have like some funny hexing power because really screwed up things happen to people who have done me wrong with almost no effort on my part, I'm not even exaggerating
Don't flatter yourself.
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Lonake Moderator Posts: 7126 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 14, 2012 08:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by Nine: My mom always says, I'm a very nice person. Ask anyone and they'll tell you I'm a very nice person. Well mamma, people tell you that when they're about to manipulate you.
So you got your smarts from your dad  IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 5434 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 14, 2012 08:55 PM
Well said Nine. I could say the exact same thing, except my mom was Cancer Sun, Capricorn Moon. Pretty nasty combo...when unevolved.IP: Logged |
Geminisquared Knowflake Posts: 532 From: nyc Registered: Nov 2011
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posted April 14, 2012 08:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lonake: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Geminisquared: [b]sometimes I think I have like some funny hexing power because really screwed up things happen to people who have done me wrong with almost no effort on my part, I'm not even exaggerating
Don't flatter yourself.[/B][/QUOTE]don't be jealous I have loki on my side x :3 IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 5434 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 14, 2012 08:55 PM
Made me grow a thick skin, which turned out to be an important quality, in my life.IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 5434 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 14, 2012 08:58 PM
I can now spot a manipulator about a hundred miles away too.IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 5434 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 14, 2012 08:59 PM
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Lonake Moderator Posts: 7126 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 14, 2012 09:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by Geminisquared: don't be jealous I have loki on my side x :3
quote: :3 2019 up, 290 down A symbol meant to represent the cat face made by anime characters when they say something clever, or sarcastic, or are commenting on something cute.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=%3A3 I had to look dat one up (!). . quote: Originally posted by T: I can now spot a manipulator about a hundred miles away too.
So, T & Nine, you guys have a good amount of Pluto in the natal, perhaps?IP: Logged |
Geminisquared Knowflake Posts: 532 From: nyc Registered: Nov 2011
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posted April 14, 2012 09:04 PM
My dad manipulated my whole family, hes never had to work hard in his whole life until now. Hes generally really nice and has loads of charms, and you won't even realize your being controlled. You can see glimpses of his actual personality now that hes older its actually horrifying because like a completely different person IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 5434 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 14, 2012 09:04 PM
She would bring up how I'm such a sweetheart and too kindhearted. I think it was one of the things she was jealous of.....now looking back ...& now that I'm older and wiser.  IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 5434 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 14, 2012 09:08 PM
Lonake,Pluto is at home in my 8th. Makes many nice aspects to some planets and Asc. as well. Yep. I think i'm pretty good at it, and Pluto certainly helps!  IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 5434 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 14, 2012 09:10 PM
It's pretty bad when your own therapist suggests staying as far away from your own mother as possible and thinks cutting off contact was definitely a good thing for one's own sanity and well being. LOLIP: Logged |
Lonake Moderator Posts: 7126 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 14, 2012 09:10 PM
^ It takes one to spot one (!) Not that you're a manipulator, but it's the sort of thing where the security departments hire the best hackers. You get my drift  IP: Logged |
Geminisquared Knowflake Posts: 532 From: nyc Registered: Nov 2011
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posted April 14, 2012 09:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lonake: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Geminisquared: [b] don't be jealous I have loki on my side x :3
quote: :3 2019 up, 290 down A symbol meant to represent the cat face made by anime characters when they say something clever, or sarcastic, or are commenting on something cute.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=%3A3 I had to look dat one up (!)Now you could use on people :3 its a good poker face smiley IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 5434 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 14, 2012 09:13 PM
Lonake  Yep. Pluto is my friend too. I'm comfortable with that energy now. ...or I "own it".... or i understand it? Yeah, that's closer to how it is. IP: Logged |
Sashar Knowflake Posts: 180 From: Alternate timeline future Registered: Mar 2012
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posted April 14, 2012 09:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by Geminisquared: errr I think scorpios can see through bs, they sugar coat nothing, thats one of the qualities I respect about them. People love to have everything wrapped in pretty red bow.
That's great, I love blunt honesty myself, but... their bluntness is a mask for the unique subtly they have in manipulation techniques.Ever have one (or many) try to get you to do what they want... and then not do it? That's where I run into their mean spirited side. It's not the manipulation that's mean spirited, but what comes if I ignore the manipulation. But like I said, that's just with the ones I've known... and other than that, we usually get along really well. ------------------ Astrology Activism: The constant strive to not just learn the intricate details of Astrology but the desire to constantly find new ways to prove that it exists in a scientific manner. Failure to incorporate the later into your work is akin to learning how to cure cancer but not sharing it with anyone. IP: Logged |
Geminisquared Knowflake Posts: 532 From: nyc Registered: Nov 2011
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posted April 14, 2012 09:31 PM
Yeah but most people will try an manipulate others if they can, why? Its survival of the fittest. honestly to get far in this world you have to manipulate others so you can get ahead. I'm not saying this is the right thing to do. The fact is its human nature whether we like it or not. Its like that survival mentality ingrained in our head. Libras can use therir charms to manipulate others. honest people are a minority unfortunately. If you feel this only happens with scorpio suns then maybe check out synastry or a composite chart. I noticed all my close friends have scorpio moons even my mother who is like my best friend. I have moon in taurus 11th house opp my pluto in the 5th. these house both have to do with friendships and all the people who I am close to are artists since I go to art school (5th creativity) Its hard for me to relate to others who do not make art. etc since 5th house pluto is intense in its passions. So you can see the pattern. IP: Logged |
scrappydog Knowflake Posts: 932 From: Texas Registered: May 2009
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posted April 14, 2012 09:53 PM
I think this is more aspects than anything, but if I have to pick three signs it would be gemini, cancer, capricorn. Any of these aspected badly(especially with afflicted plutos!)can just be cruel and horrible with no real reason at all either, it seems they just Like to hurt other people. Again I think this can be a defense mechanism for their own insecurity, they project and take out their demons on others.IP: Logged |
Nine Knowflake Posts: 952 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted April 14, 2012 10:06 PM
quote: So, T & Nine, you guys have a good amount of Pluto in the natal, perhaps?
I have Pluto in the 1st, trine Sun. quote: She would bring up how I'm such a sweetheart and too kindhearted. I think it was one of the things she was jealous of.....now looking back ...& now that I'm older and wiser.
Yes. I was groomed to "don't ASK me for anything. Take whatever I give you and be happy with it." However, whatever she wants/demands/asks for she must get - or else. IP: Logged |
Sashar Knowflake Posts: 180 From: Alternate timeline future Registered: Mar 2012
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posted April 14, 2012 10:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by Geminisquared: honest people are a minority unfortunately.
You would not believe how often I am surprised by that fact. XD But really, I feel like you don't understand that it's not the manipulation that I'm talking about. Other wise I'd just simply agree with you, because you're right, and let it go at that. I just feel it's important that you know, I don't consider manipulation a mean spirited act in and of itself. I'm talking about what comes after the manipulation when it's ignored that is mean spirited... the poking and prodding, the digging at hurtful places. It doesn't happen often, but it almost solely happens with people who have Scorpio Suns... to me, and only in that particular circumstance. So it probably has a lot more to do with my synastry with Sun Scorpio than anything else. Maybe the Taurus Moon, maybe the Leo Mercury, I don't know. If someone had an idea of what could cause that reaction to a specific Sun sign, perhaps that could lead you to an answer that hadn't been given yet, involving synastry as well as individual charts. ------------------ Astrology Activism: The constant strive to not just learn the intricate details of Astrology but the desire to constantly find new ways to prove that it exists in a scientific manner. Failure to incorporate the later into your work is akin to learning how to cure cancer but not sharing it with anyone. IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 5434 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 14, 2012 10:57 PM
Nine, you could be like a twin sister to me. Geez. I'm sure you could relate to stories I could tell you.  Hope you are healing from that kind of abusive relationship too.  IP: Logged |
Nine Knowflake Posts: 952 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted April 14, 2012 11:17 PM
quote: Hope you are healing from that kind of abusive relationship too.
As your therapist recommended, the best kind of healing required lots of physical space. IP: Logged |
Geminisquared Knowflake Posts: 532 From: nyc Registered: Nov 2011
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posted April 14, 2012 11:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by Sashar: You would not believe how often I am surprised by that fact. XDBut really, I feel like you don't understand that it's not the manipulation that I'm talking about. Other wise I'd just simply agree with you, because you're right, and let it go at that. I just feel it's important that you know, I don't consider manipulation a mean spirited act in and of itself. I'm talking about what comes after the manipulation when it's ignored that is mean spirited... the poking and prodding, the digging at hurtful places. It doesn't happen often, but it almost solely happens with people who have Scorpio Suns... to me, and only in that particular circumstance. So it probably has a lot more to do with my synastry with Sun Scorpio than anything else. Maybe the Taurus Moon, maybe the Leo Mercury, I don't know. If someone had an idea of what could cause that reaction to a specific Sun sign, perhaps that could lead you to an answer that hadn't been given yet, involving synastry as well as individual charts.
I noticed scorpio with leo can be a lethal combination Ive NOticed people with these placements they are so prideful and rather annoying actually. This one girl in particular who scorpio stellium with a leo moon is one of the most blusterous oblivious person I have ever met. She's mutual friends with many people I know so she's unavoidable ironically these people complain about her. The one thing is she's a talented photographer but I found out she uses this friend of mine who often helps her take pictures which is a no no in fine art photographer. She even steal pictures my friend took because she would some how coax her into using her camera.... She even directly undermines my friends talent which is a scorpio directness Shes rather rude also, now that I find out she's a leo moon it will be fun to pin point her weaknesses and crush some of her pride Errrr she'll get what coming to her I can just feel it. Im sorry im drunk so I think im contradicting myself Im going away now bye IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka Knowflake Posts: 436 From: Toronto, Canada Registered: Mar 2012
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posted April 14, 2012 11:43 PM
Wow, GemSquared - I have been bullied by a Scorpio with a Leo moon. He was a very cruel person, he projected the dark side of Scorpio into a search for attention. Awful.IP: Logged |