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Moonfish
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posted April 15, 2012 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm seeing this guy, and we both have Mars-Pluto in our charts natally. Mine conjuncts and his opposites. We don't have any in Synastry, however it does create square in composite.

Could this be dangerous?

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posted April 15, 2012 01:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pennylane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My understanding of it is that both of you are prone to being overly obsessed/possesive of one another when you have it aspected natally. I think he would probably feel it more with his opposition. The fact that it's aspected in the composite might signify that you will feel that crazy sex along with the obsession/possesiveness. What house is pluto in? And do you have any more aspects to pluto?

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posted April 15, 2012 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Pennylane
Thank you :]
I don't know his birth time but his Pluto is in my 8H

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posted April 15, 2012 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My man has the mars pluto opp 2* in his natal, I have no natal mars pluto, but my moon is squaring his opp making it a t square. Mars pluto in synastry is sextile and we also have venus square pluto in synastry. He is very posessive and obsessive, I think he's like that normally and so am I (sun conj pluto natally), but he seems to be the more obsessed, jealous than me. No danger yet but he loves to have rough sex with me and its great ;-) But some women would not like that sort of thing...?

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posted April 15, 2012 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Mars Trine Pluto natally. Let me see what that means.

Hmm. Confident, determined and passionate?

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posted April 15, 2012 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
I have Mars Trine Pluto natally. Let me see what that means.

Hmm. Confident, determined and passionate?


I have Pluto trine Merc, Mars and Moon and I have to agree.

The trine aspect does not do the obsessive/possessive part as I have heard and can tell you myself unless someone else is triggering it. We are just very determined, passionate and super loving when we do find someone to shower the affection on.

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posted April 15, 2012 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh and Moonfish, no I do not think there is any danger to this, I would say you have are just found someone that can understand your level of intesity and passion and reciprocate. Sounds hot if you ask me.

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posted April 15, 2012 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireWire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
I have Mars Trine Pluto natally. Let me see what that means.

Hmm. Confident, determined and passionate?


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posted April 15, 2012 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by violet7887:
oh and Moonfish, no I do not think there is any danger to this, I would say you have are just found someone that can understand your level of intesity and passion and reciprocate. Sounds hot if you ask me.

Mars & Pluto are hot I agree violet

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posted April 15, 2012 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars and pluto aspects are definately hot, I agree, but they can cause definate violence in a chart especially if the sun or moon is involved and more so in a man's chart I believe. There a a lot of men in prison for violent crime that have this natally.

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posted April 15, 2012 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireWire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by scrappydog:
Mars and pluto aspects are definately hot, I agree, but they can cause definate violence in a chart especially if the sun or moon is involved and more so in a man's chart I believe. There a a lot of men in prison for violent crime that have this natally.

I see your point here. It is similar to what a lot of people say about the combination.

I think rather than cause violence, I think the intense energy that is produced in the native is such that if it does not have a proper, solid [physical] outlet and regular release it can can cause [physical] violence [that is not always directed outward].

I know that sounds like the same thing, but it is a subtle nuance that I think makes a big difference. Because it is not completely suggesting causation..lol..., meh whatever, someone probably understands what I am trying to say. Mainly that while we can't be sure all who have this placement become violent, we can be sure that all who have this placement have a certain energy that needs to be handled properly and expressed.

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posted April 15, 2012 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@violet7887
Hm, I didn't think of it that way :] thanks violet

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posted April 15, 2012 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Really? well that stinks. However he's physcially a twig XD so if it came to that I think i could beat him lol
Jk, No on a serious note though i'll watch out for that ty

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posted April 15, 2012 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
btw here are some aspects we share

mine - his
[a possible Moon trine Moon ]
Venus opposite Saturn 0*
Venus trine Uranus 3*
Venus conjunct Chiron 1*
Mercury opposite Venus 1*
Mercury sextile NN 1*
Saturn trine Mars 1*
Saturn trine Mercury 2*
Neptune conjunct Jupiter 0*

the dangerous ones are pretty wide, so hopefully they won't have much influence

Moon squares his Mars-Mercury opposite Pluto 4-5*

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posted April 15, 2012 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know two seperate Females with the conjunction and they are extremely sexually aggressive/demanding. I know three males, two opp and one square and they are all in prison for violent crimes, though not rape. I know a fourth male that involves venus-pluto-mars and he is an obsessed stalker of my friend. I know a female with sun opp pluto in a t square with mars and she was raped on two seperate occasions.

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posted April 15, 2012 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow that's pretty intense. Well I'm a virgin and my Sun also conjuncts my Mars-Pluto. I guess what helps is that my Ascendant trines them within a 2deg orb, I haven't done any of those things :]

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posted April 15, 2012 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
moonfish, r u a guy or girl?

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posted April 15, 2012 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Girl :]

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posted April 15, 2012 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok I looked at ur 1st post so I am assuming u r a girl...How old r u? That is a very intense combination u have sun-mars-pluto and u should just be carefuul always. I am a sun conj pluto 1* female and I have to be extremely careful and my mars is not even involved.

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posted April 15, 2012 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
20's and careful about what?
I use to take the public bus or ride my bike everyday to school. I've been fine.

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posted April 15, 2012 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im happy about that, unfortunately I havent. Major sun-pluto aspects are associated with transformation through crisis and trauma, sometimes mars can add violence. Maybe yours are not as close as mine? I have sun conj pluto almost exact and its squaring my mc...maybe my cappy moon square saturn in the 8th makes it worse, idk. Also pluto is the 2nd strongest planet in my chart...
How strong is your pluto?

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posted April 15, 2012 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sorry to hear that scrappy :[
However, to me Sun-Pluto is the definition of Will Power. I saw on another thread that you said you are an independent dominant woman, and I believe if anyone can get through bad times with a smile on there face, it's someone like you ya have the aspects to prove it.

Pluto is pretty powerful in my chart
Scorpio Pluto 8H
again, conjuncts Sun 3* and Mars 0*
Parallels Moon
trine Ascendant 0*
semisquare Venus 0*
quintile Saturn 0*
sextile Lilith 0*

Celebrities with Sun or Saturn w/ Mars-Pluto (asc?)

Sarah Jessica Parker
Mars conjunct Pluto 1*
Mars opposite Saturn 1*
Pluto opposite Saturn 3*

Shailene Woodley (same bday as me)
Sun conjunct Mars 2*
Sun conjunct Pluto 3*
Mars conjunct Pluto 0*

Justin Bieber
Pluto conjunct Asc 0*
Mars square Pluto 2*
Mars square Asc 3*
Saturn square Pluto 5*

Uma Thurman
Sun conjunct Saturn 3*
Moon inconjunct Pluto 2*
Sun SesquiQuadrate Pluto 1*
Saturn SesquiQuadrate Pluto 1*

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