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posted April 15, 2012 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looking at some of my aspects that are out of orb and wondering if I can feel them. Doesn't the moon and sun go up to 12 degrees?

Moon 2'29 Leo h10
Uranus 12'52 Sag h2

Moon sextile or trine Uranus
Preferring to live in an open and accepting manner, you encourage others to "be themselves" with an attitude that anything goes and a fondness for the unusual and unconventional. As a parent, you may be quite open with your children, and encouraging the same in them. You aim to be friends with them. In fact, you are like this with most people you meet--you treat others as equals regardless of their status or position. You detest stuffiness, showiness, and pretense, and you will often do or say something that will break others out of an overly serious frame of mind. You are spontaneous, funny, perceptive, and a little quirky.

The trine aspect is the more dynamic of the two harmonious aspects. Those with the sextile can call upon these traits when needed, and those with the trine between the Moon and Uranus have incorporated the traits of the aspect into their personalities, expressing them naturally and consistently.

Moon sextile Uranus: You act on unique and experimental thoughts. You are humanitarian and freedom oriented in the way you explore life. You have a knack for improving your surroundings. -- Interpretation from the In Depth Profile Report.

Moon trine Uranus: You take bold steps in your approach to everyday problems. This gives your personality a sparkle and excitement that others love and respond to. You know how to make excitement out of everyday activities, as you search out new methods for performing routine activities. -- Interpretation from the In Depth Profile Report.

Some Famous People with Moon in Harmonious Aspect to Uranus: Sextiles - Wade Boggs, Prince Charles, Dick Cheney; Trines - Ewan McGregor, Bill Cosby, Jamie Lee Curtis, T.S. Eliot, Jim Henson, Kirk Douglas, Larry King, Gwyneth Paltrow.
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/moonuranusaspects.html

The Detached Lover: Aspects Between The Moon and Uranus in the Natal Chart

The Moon is the heart of the natal chart. When a person needs security, they turn inward to its familiar, intimate energy. It represents childhood and mother.  Its element is water.  Any feelings (or lack thereof) in love relationships will be decided by the condition of the natal Moon.
Uranus in the natal chart is responsible for upheaval. Its energy comes from a distant place, blasting away the things that need to be changed. It represents anything new, innovative or shocking. Its element is air. It is the universal alarm clock.
Anytime the Moon makes an aspect to Uranus in the natal chart, the emotional and the detached are combined. A good illustration of this is the moment of birth:  the infant is yanked from its safe, watery environment and feels the awakening slap of cold air.  What does this mean for the Moon-Uranus person in a relationship?
It helps to understand where the Moon-Uranus person is coming from.  The Moon in any hard aspect (conjunction, opposition, square) to Uranus can indicate a traumatic event in childhood where security was ripped away.  A quick word about aspects: I am focusing on hard aspects because they indicate trauma more than the harmonious trines and sextiles.  Although all Moon-Uranus aspects will have a similar theme, the way the energies interact will vary according to the aspect.  In a square, the two planets are butting heads.  The opposition has the two planets at opposite ends of a table shouting at each other.  The conjunction is the two in an uneasy dance where both partners try to lead.
The Moon-Uranus child’s response to trauma was deciding not to trust in emotional safety ever again. As an adult, this memory is carried into relationships. The Moon-Uranus person feels and acts like a detached outsider, reluctant to form any long-term bonds. They can develop an uncompromising attitude in relationships as a way of protecting themselves, deciding on the level of freedom and commitment without discussing things with their partner.
Their approach to committed relationships varies from restlessness to outright panic.  What the Moon-Uranus person fears is being trapped and hurt.  Someone with a Moon-Uranus square may be continually attracted to unreliable types.  The energy of the square causes open tension which drives them forward to do something now. They can throw themselves into destructive relationships which they know, on some level, will not last.  Or they may abruptly end  a relationship if their partner (usually without  knowing) restricts their freedom in some way. Someone with a Moon-Uranus opposition may dither for years over committing to anyone.  The opposition causes a hard-to-define underlying tension. With a conjunction there may be less tension, but the energy of Uranus will still be prominent.  They will stubbornly insist that the relationship operate according to their idea of commitment, which will not be typical.  It may range from having an open relationship to simply needing more alone time than most people.
Moon-Uranus is not an emotionally stable combination.  By itself, the energy of the Moon is constantly changing (reflecting its phases in the sky).  Uranus has an erratic energy that can flare up and die quickly.   Moon-Uranus people are drawn to whatever is new (Uranus is responsible for love or lust at first sight).   But new fades quickly, and as a relationship settles into routine, the Moon-Uranus person finds their interest waning and finally disappearing.  Sensations feel dulled, as if they were wrapped in a thin sheet of plastic.
Being involved with a Moon-Uranus person can be bewildering.  The relationship starts with a glorious rush. The partner is flattered and overwhelmed by the attentions of this fascinating outsider.  Over time, the partner notices how the Moon-Uranus person flatly refuses to do certain things (like making plans more then a few days in advance).  The partner wonders how someone so apparently free-spirited can be so rigid at the same time.  During conversations, the Moon-Uranus person will suddenly switch off:  they’ll continue to talk, but emotionally they’ve left the room.  Attempts to build intimacy cause them to distance themselves further.
Many Moon-Uranus types may be perfectly aware of the roots of their behaviour.  Uranian detachment brings insight, so they are able to stand back and observe themselves.  They may even offer helpful explanations to their partners. While this sounds healthy, it’s actually another way for the Moon-Uranus person to escape. For example, a Moon-Uranus person discovers that their partner is cheating.  They will feel hurt, but the instant the hurt becomes apparent, they jump back to a safe distance.  Whatever feelings they had for their partner have been replaced with numbness.  Their reaction, depending on the rest of their chart, may range from, “No worries, it happens,” to, “Right. I’m leaving now”.  Either way, it’s unlikely that they will be intimate with their partner again.  The partner, expecting a display of hurt and/or anger, is confused.  The Moon-Uranus person may calmly explain that they feel numb, and this reminds them of the time when they were six and their Dad walked out. Rather than feeling what’s happening, they describe the absence of feeling.
But before we write off Moon-Uranus folk as being condemned to a life of watching from the sidelines, remember that everything in astrology has two sides.  The insight these people have into their emotions is a powerful tool.   They’ve already covered the territory that others spend years in therapy trying to work through.  They are not possessive, and they give their partners just as much freedom as they ask for themselves. They don’t hold grudges: these are the people who remain friends with their exes. And let’s not forget the power of Uranus as the great awakener.  If you’re involved with a Moon-Uranus person, you’re involved with an innovator and rule-breaker. Get ready to toss any stale ideas about relationships out the window.
The key for the Moon-Uranus person is compromise and patience.  With compromise, they will find that the freedom they have been guarding so closely is actually more available to them.  If they suggest rather than insist, they will find that their partner is usually open to giving them the space they need.  With the right partner, they will also find that the switching off of emotions is not a permanent condition.  If they wait out the numbness, it often fades and the feelings they had for their partner are still there.
Inside all Moon-Uranus people is a conflict between the need to belong and the desire to break free.   Not belonging makes them uneasy, but being part of something makes them uncomfortable.  Are they capable of having a long-term, committed relationship?  Yes – if they want one.  It is entirely possible for them to be part of a relationship where they can be free to feel safe. http://sasstrology.com/2010/06/the-detached-lover-aspects-between -the-moon-and-uranus-in-the-natal-chart.html

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posted April 16, 2012 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for curiouswoman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
how with someone with this aspect get along with someone with sun in saggitarius?

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posted April 16, 2012 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^they will go broke from partying!!

Just kidding! Okay I guess!

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Moon/Uranus Aspects

Unusual attachments. Unusual friends. Feeling comfortable with nonconformists. Feeling nurtured by astrology. Astrology groups. Wanting to live in the future. Instinctively rebellious. Shocking responses. Unpredictable responses. Unpredictable emotions. An erratic emotional life. Unstable emotional life. Emotionally extreme. Extreme responses. Feeling chaotic. Feeling like a revolutionary. Feeling rebellious. Wanting to break free from family ties. Wanting to break free from family conditioning. Wanting to break free from ingrained habits. Wanting to be liberated from domestic life. Freedom from family. Freedom from country. Rebelling against the country. Sudden intuition. Emotional independence. Unusual home life.

Living in a futuristic house. Feeling at home with technology. Feeling like a geek. Feeling like an outcast. Bizarre eating habits. Bizarre habit patterns. Bizarre ways of showing you care. Inconsistent emotions. Needing space and freedom. Needing room to breathe. Feeling that family life is claustrophobic. Breaking free from mom. An independent mother. An unpredictable, erratic, or inconsistent mother. Getting along with independent, strong-willed, unusual women. Liking liberated, rebellious, unpredictable women.

The Liberated Woman. Inability to completely conform. Feeling supported by technology. Feeling supported by astrology. Feeling comfortable with chaos. Feeling comfortable with eccentricity. Feeling happy with weirdos. Strange feelings. Unusual intuitions. Sudden emotional outbursts. Emotionally distant. Aloof. Kooky habits. Liking bizarre food. Shocking eating habits. Abnormal emotional responses. Abnormal eating habits. Abnormal habits. Abnormal mother. Deviant behavior. Cool emotions. Emotionally detached. Inconsistent feelings for people. Inconsistent eating habits. Strange cuisine. Emotionally stubborn. Emotionally fixed. Cool relationships with family members. Feeling emotionally supported by groups- or not. Liking strange and unusual things. Changing feelings. Keeping everyone at arm’s length. Avoiding deeper emotions. Avoiding deeper relationships. Avoiding emotional bonding. Avoiding family. Disruptive behavior.

Naturally original. Naturally unique. A natural eccentric. A natural nonconformist. Naturally peculiar. Peculiar behavior. Feeling happier going off the beaten path. Avoiding the predictable. Avoiding routine. Avoiding clingy relationships. Steering clear of motherly types. Choosing not to have a family. Choosing independence over family. Having a hard time reconciling warm, caring emotions with the need to be free of constraints. Difficulty demonstrating affection. Preferring to be free and alone rather than with someone and trapped. Crankiness. Occasionally feeling the need to break free from everyone and everything. Feelings of anarchy. Emotional alienation. Alienated from your own feelings and emotional life. Comfortable living on the fringe.

Read more: http://astrofix.net/2010/06/22/moonuranus-aspects-brainstorm/#ixzz1sAyEgjou

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posted April 16, 2012 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In natal i read that the max is 7degs and Sun-Moon, well I read on one site that it can up to 15degs o.o wow.

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Moon sextile Uranus: You act on unique and experimental thoughts. You are humanitarian and freedom oriented in the way you explore life. You have a knack for improving your surroundings. -- Interpretation from the In Depth Profile Report

I have this aspect (3degs) and I think i can feel it. Thanks for the info sand

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posted April 16, 2012 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon trine Uranus here! So much of this is true for me... I am very much like both descriptions given of the Moon-Uranus aspect. It can make life intriguing but very complicated. I also have Chiron and Moon conjunct so add Uranus in here and it can make emotional instability worse.

" Moon-Uranus people are drawn to whatever is new (Uranus is responsible for love or lust at first sight). But new fades quickly, and as a relationship settles into routine, the Moon-Uranus person finds their interest waning and finally disappearing..."

BIG truth for me. With ALL types of relationships. Do all Moon-Uranus people seem to attract 'admirer' types? I know I do. I have a definite issue with this. Sure it's fun to have people really have an interest in you because you're a little eccentric or out of the ordinary in appearance, but with this aspect I think you desire someone who is on your level, where they might not act like they are admiring you or loving you from afar... because either you're subconsciously distant or they just don't know how to relate. I've had both and a combination of the two at the same time happen with me.

With this aspect I can definitely relate best to 'eccentric' people... those who aren't afraid to be a little bit weird. It's just easier for me to relate, I won't feel like they are too "enthralled" by me like the description said here. They'll just see me as an Aquarian type, an Aquarian relating to an Aquarian. This aspect makes it quite easy for me to interact with and like Aquarian/Uranian types... How about anyone else with this?

Also, some challenges posed with this aspect are very true for me. Emotional trauma is more represented by the Chiron aspect to my Moon, but at the same time this aspect represents how in childhood my mother was extremely strange and very flighty. She eventually abandoned me, a double whammy, which can be represented by both the Chiron and Uranus placement. I feel my own emotions can be hard to figure out at times but I am gifted with introspection, an unusual insight especially at my age, since I'm rather young. This placement makes me reminded of rejection and a void of feeling when I am hurt by someone else. Along with many Scorpio planets, this aspect makes me very reluctant to give away too much... plus as stated here, I very easily lose interest too quickly in friends I don't take seriously enough. :I

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Wow, a guy who has this must be every girl's dream. </sarcasm> Seriously, Moon-Uranus hard aspects is the type that women's dating advice columns/books rail against. Commitmentphobe, emotionally distant/unavailable, time-waster.....

Most guys would love an emotionally unavailable Moon-Uranus girl though.

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posted April 16, 2012 01:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Moonfish:
In natal i read that the max is 7degs and Sun-Moon, well I read on one site that it can up to 15degs o.o wow.

I have this aspect (3degs) and I think i can feel it. Thanks for the info sand


15 is exage lol! Maybe my 12 is too but I know people mention it sometimes here.

If I can count it my Uranus would make 1 aspect haha! Not sure if it is actually better.

Yah urs is pretty close sure u can feel it!

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posted April 16, 2012 03:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sweet - Scorpion,

I related to everything you had to say. I also have Moon trine Uranus. In addition to this I'm dominant Uranus in my chart. With Aquarius Rising. Relationships have always been tough. I've dealt with the whole enthralled attraction factor. And I try to explain to those who's feelings I don't want to hurt that I'm not who they dream I am. It doesn't help being a Libra Sun with Venus trine Uranus. But I love quirky things and quirky people. I've pretty much got it figured out that I'm destined to share my life with an alien. I'm very ok with that too. I'd prefer it because regulars just don't seem to harmonize well with me. Uranus allows me to have eyes for only the extraordinary. Which includes extraterrestrials.

@Sand, I really dug that astrofix description. They always have something refreshingly interesting to say.

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posted April 16, 2012 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 16, 2012 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Sweet - Scorpion,

I related to everything you had to say. I also have Moon trine Uranus. In addition to this I'm dominant Uranus in my chart. With Aquarius Rising. Relationships have always been tough. I've dealt with the whole enthralled attraction factor. And I try to explain to those who's feelings I don't want to hurt that I'm not who they dream I am. It doesn't help being a Libra Sun with Venus trine Uranus. But I love quirky things and quirky people. I've pretty much got it figured out that I'm destined to share my life with an alien. I'm very ok with that too. I'd prefer it because regulars just don't seem to harmonize well with me. Uranus allows me to have eyes for only the extraordinary. Which includes extraterrestrials.



I'm a Libra sun too! And I can definitely see how Venus trine Uranus makes this even more complicated for you. I think people with Aquarius rising also have a difficult time as well... with being seen as overtly eccentric at times. I have a mix of Scorpio and Aquarius influences in my entire chart, which makes things a bit hard for me since the two signs are pretty much incompatible. I have a lot of planets in the 11th house, and those planets make aspects to most everything else in my chart. I also have my Psyche in Aquarius, and Uranus trines my MC (along with Neptune).

I know first-hand how ambiguous it can be to attract people who are enthralled with you. I'm happy to see you can relate. After doing studies I've come to believe this aspect is definitely responsible for my attraction to strange people, and people *I* don't always like being attracted to me. It's the good and bad side of having this Moon-Uranus aspect. Sometimes it's positive attention, like being captivating to another person and being their main focus for a while; other times it's negative, like other people staring at you like you're an alien in a supermarket for wearing leather pants. I'D I'm glad to see you have accepted this original side to yourself instead of rejecting it too. Whenever I try to go against waving my 'freak' flag, i.e., dressing like I shop at Ralph Lauren for a party or an interview, I always feel a little uncomfortable. And I too know that I'll have to get used to the fact that it's going to take some work to find someone who understands my emotional sensitivities in life.

Because for Moon-Uranus people, I think that's what causing the commitment-phobe personality: emotional sensitivity, and the fear of being cast out or rejected, or just hurt in general.

"And I try to explain to those who's feelings I don't want to hurt that I'm not who they dream I am..."

So true for me too. I have a tendency for other people to sort of build me up as something greater than I am, and I can let them. But I've learned to stop that when I see it more often, since the upset you get when the relationship ends - 'what do you mean, you're not the girl of my dreams?! or 'what do you mean, we're not best friends for all time and all eternity?!' - is not fair and it's not worth it. Uranus makes you seem unique and cool, but I think these people don't understand that with the 'weird cool' factor you don't get a person who is always reliable by nature. I'll admit that.

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posted April 16, 2012 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chironrising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon square uranus conjunct mercury - nervous wreck genius.

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Because for Moon-Uranus people, I think that's what causing the commitment-phobe personality: emotional sensitivity, and the fear of being cast out or rejected, or just hurt in general.

Just for the record - I'm only commitmentphobic when I'm not "into" the person or job or place or whatever.

Uranus/Aquarius/11th House rules IDEALS. E.g. This is why the fixed quality of Venus in Aquarius kicks in once it finds what fits its ideal.

~ Moon in Aquarius square Uranus in Scorpio, 0' orb

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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
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Just for the record - I'm only commitmentphobic when I'm not "into" the person or job or place or whatever.

Uranus/Aquarius/11th House rules IDEALS. E.g. This is why the fixed quality of Venus in Aquarius kicks in once it finds what fits its ideal.

~ Moon in Aquarius square Uranus in Scorpio, 0' orb


I'm sorry... I honestly wasn't referring to you saying that when I wrote that. I hope I didn't offend you. Actually I was thinking of myself, because I am extremely commitment phobic with relationships and rarely settle into anything permanent. Permanence can be unnerving to me! I can relate to what you said there. I won't commit to something unless I am 100 percent about it, it's extremely hard for me to give in when I am not totally sure about something and if I like it or not.

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No offense taken & none intended either; just wanted to inform random readers.

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Sweet-Scorpion:I'm a Libra sun too! And I can definitely see how Venus trine Uranus makes this even more complicated for you. I think people with Aquarius rising also have a difficult time as well... I know first-hand how ambiguous it can be to attract people who are enthralled with you. I'm happy to see you can relate. After doing studies I've come to believe this aspect is definitely responsible for my attraction to strange people, and people *I* don't always like being attracted to me. It's the good and bad side of having this Moon-Uranus aspect...

Because for Moon-Uranus people, I think that's what causing the commitment-phobe personality: emotional sensitivity, and the fear of being cast out or rejected, or just hurt in general...

I have a tendency for other people to sort of build me up as something greater than I am, and I can let them. But I've learned to stop that when I see it more often, since the upset you get when the relationship ends - 'what do you mean, you're not the girl of my dreams?! or 'what do you mean, we're not best friends for all time and all eternity?!' - is not fair and it's not worth it. Uranus makes you seem unique and cool, but I think these people don't understand that with the 'weird cool' factor you don't get a person who is always reliable by nature. I'll admit that.


Yes, yes, to many of the things you stated above. I'll even go as far to coin myself the elusive misunderstood lover. I'm just a bit too complicated for mainstream relationships and normative roles practiced within those unions. I'm a very unconventional lover, and I don't believe in or support domestication, marriage, anything organized, conventionalized or institutionalized. People who fall for me quickly learn I'm not that kind of a women. I agree that they think that being so eccentric is fascinating, but it suits their convenience during the attraction phase but once the relationship begins, they expect me to switch off the zany and become normal or adhere to the rules of conventionality in relationships. However they get a rude awakening, and then emotional distance from me. And then I'm like a bass out of hell, gone!

I wouldn't say I'm commitment phobic it's just I don't support the way we conventionally define commitment in our society. It's means something very different to me. My only hang up as far as relationships go is not being able to be myself or being accepted for who I am. I can't compromise my individuality. It's who I am.

It's hard because I naturally accept others for who they are, being an Aquarius Rising. I'm a friend of everyone! But people don't always accept me, and it's not something I can stand for in relationships. And my goodness I'm so many things. Mind you I also have a splash chart pattern and my interests are infinite. I'm personally looking for something very out there, like alien planet dwellers and infinite space continuum portal beings and such. But someone who is not completely disconnected from reality, people who are very aware. It's all very complicated.

Acceptance even more than rejection is the utmost important thing to me. Right now I'm going through a heavy Uranus conjunct my natal Mars transit to boot and yeah my freak flag is waving high and proud. If I can't be myself I just silently distance myself from others. Where's the fun if you can't be allowed to be who you are. I am aware that at this stage in our evolution, humans have a very difficult time of accepting each other, so I'll let it slide when it comes to friends and family, and strangers. But I can't in relationships. I'm a Libra, like you who is all about equality and fairness.

Authenticity and individuality, hallmark of being dominant Uranians. Don't shy away from being authentic, it's our right! Keep the world guessing.

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It's hard because I naturally accept others for who they are, being an Aquarius Rising.

Having crossed paths and being close to at least one Aqua Rising, it seems like you people see yourselves this way, or try to be seen as such, but actually try to manipulate others (Scorpio Midheaven being probable with this ascendant) into conforming to your ideals.

It puzzles me as to why I attract Aqua rising guys when my persona screams "conventional." Maybe they want to revolutionalize me. If so, how hypocritical, expecting others to accept them fully as they are, and yet trying to pull someone who is completely unlike them into conforming to THEIR ideals of what a relationship should be....which means a format that's convenient for themselves, at the expense of the other. They should just be alone and let others be, IMO. Because relationships entail compromise.

(Aqua rising dudes everwhere: this gal is gonna stick to Aries risings...they see the world as it is, and deal with everything in a straightforward fashion.)

A true Aquarius needs no personal relationships.

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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
Having crossed paths and being close to at least one Aqua Rising, it seems like you people see yourselves this way, or try to be seen as such, but actually try to manipulate others (Scorpio Midheaven being probable with this ascendant) into conforming to your ideals...A true Aquarius needs no personal relationships.

Whoa, whoa. I'm just speaking for myself and I don't have a Scorpio Midheaven, I have Sagittarius on the Midheaven Conjunct Uranus. When I say I accept people for who they are, I mean it. It's knitted within the fabric of my very being as an individual.

Your statement about a true Aquarius needing no personal relationships is your personal opinion, it isn't valid across the board. Aquarius is the most humanitarian of all the archetypal zodiac signs. Who would Aquarius pour out that water of knowledge to? An empty planet? No one's an island and Aquarius is more aware of that then any other sign next to Libra. They are connectors, universal beings, with the mission of connecting all walks of life and uniting together all kinds of people. They tend to be more impersonal than personal but that's their challenge to learn how to balance both traits within themselves.

From what you've written above, I can see you have some pretty deep seated prejudices against Aquarius Risings. That's unfortunate, but we're all different. What I will say about the archetype of an Aquarius, is that they are meant to be individuals first. And each one can make the decision for whether or not they want relationships with others in their lives.

Edit: Capriquarius, you seem lately to be a bit on the attack. I'm just pointing it out, not only on this thread but recently on others. I hope everything is ok, you just seem to be a bit abrasive lately.

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posted April 16, 2012 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NativelyJoan:
Yes, yes, to many of the things you stated above. I'll even go as far to coin myself the elusive misunderstood lover. I'm just a bit too complicated for mainstream relationships and normative roles practiced within those unions. I'm a very unconventional lover, and I don't believe in or support domestication, marriage, anything organized, conventionalized or institutionalized. People who fall for me quickly learn I'm not that kind of a women. I agree that they think that being so eccentric is fascinating, but it suits their convenience during the attraction phase but once the relationship begins, they expect me to switch of the zany and become normal or adhere to the rules of conventionality in relationships. However they get a rude awakening, and then emotional distance from me. And then I'm like a bass out of hell, gone!

I wouldn't say I'm commitment phobic it's just I don't support the way we conventionally define commitment in our society. It's means something very different to me. My only hang up as far as relationships go is not being able to be myself or being accepted for who I am. I can't compromise my individuality. It's who I am.

It's hard because I naturally accept others for who they are, being an Aquarius Rising. I'm a friend of everyone! But people don't always accept me, and it's not something I can stand for in relationships. And my goodness I'm so many things, mind you I also a splash chart pattern and my interests are infinite. I'm personally looking for something very out there, like alien planet dwellers and infinite space continuum portal beings and such. But someone who is disconnected from reality, people who are very aware. It's all very complicated.

Acceptance even more than rejection is the utmost important thing to me. Right now I'm going through a heavy Uranus conjunct my natal Mars transit to boot and yeah my freak flag is waving high and proud. If I can't be myself I just silently distance myself from others. Where's the fun if you can't be allowed to be who you are. I am aware that at this stage in our evolution, humans have a very difficult time of accepting each other, so I'll let it slide when it comes to friends and family, and strangers. But I can't in relationships. I'm a Libra, like you who is all about equality and fairness.

Authenticity and individuality, hallmark of being dominant Uranians. Don't shy away from being authentic, it's our right! Keep the world guessing.


The elusive lover... LOL you sound just like me. I love to think of myself sometimes as this misunderstood, James Dean type, haha! I think it's just a way for me to feel better about being really different sometimes. Combined with a strong Mercury-Saturn and a Saturn-square-ASC aspect, having this makes it harder for me to relate to a lot of people, ESPECIALLY people my own age, and especially in love relationships. :'(

I can see how Venus-Uranus would make you feel that way along with Moon-Uranus. After looking back on my chart, I just realized for the first time that why I agree with you so much is because I think I have the aspect myself. I'D LOL, how stupid of me... I've been studying astrology for months and months and know it well. Or at least I thought I did! I just thought I had Venus-Neptune but it was hard to tell since Uranus and Neptune are so closely conjunct in my chart. But usually when Uranus makes an aspect to a planet Neptune does as well... so I'm sure it does actually. It would make a lot of sense for me if it did.

One of my favorite stars is Angelina Jolie (of course because she is still a bit and used to be eccentric!), who openly encouraged bisexuality, went with an array of unique men, and eventually after sort of settling down, ignored the mainstream tradition of wedding first and having kids later by waiting to get engaged to Pitt until now. I really love Venus-Uranus people because they often seem to encourage just being yourself in love... and not being afraid to be unconventional or quirky in relationships.

I can see how it would make life a little harder to be an Aquarius rising. Having Venus and many planets in the 11th, makes me want to reach out to humanity and connect with so many other people. Also having the Moon in the 9th in a social sign brings that home for me. It's very disturbing when you reach out to connect to so many people and you find not everyone is as willing to be humanitarian as you are. It's very unfortunate and having a Libra sun like you, it can make the rejection sting even worse... since Libra synthesizes and to feel rejected by another human when you take time to reach out can be extra-unsettling for a Libra, at least is for me.

Hmm, maybe phobic of commitment is too broad of a way to describe how it feels. Maybe it's not phobic... rather just, wary. I'm very wary about it. Permanence is not my best friend. I hate being tied down, even if I really like something or someone or even a place I am. So committing to something takes a lot of work for me. I'm actually willing to do it sometimes, it's just it can make me so uneasy, you know?

You are very right, too. One thing about being Uranian is even though it can give me my fair share of problems, I enjoy being one who revolutionizes rather than one who sits back to watch, or one who ignores problems in society! I think it's wonderful being Aquarian simply for the reason that you can change a lot in society if you put your mind to it, due to the mindset it gives you.

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"Perfect love casts out fear."
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posted April 16, 2012 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i am not so sure if i have it now lol!

i'm not heavy on aqua or uranus tho.. but some in that astrofix blog do apply..

the sasstrology article i feel talks about the more negative aspects and not the trine.

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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
The elusive lover... LOL you sound just like me. I love to think of myself sometimes as this misunderstood, James Dean type, haha! I think it's just a way for me to feel better about being really different sometimes. Combined with a strong Mercury-Saturn and a Saturn-square-ASC aspect, having this makes it harder for me to relate to a lot of people, ESPECIALLY people my own age, and especially in love relationships. :'(

I can see how Venus-Uranus would make you feel that way along with Moon-Uranus. After looking back on my chart, I just realized for the first time that why I agree with you so much is because I think I have the aspect myself. I'D LOL, how stupid of me... I've been studying astrology for months and months and know it well. Or at least I thought I did!


Aw, I love Venus-Uranus people also. They're pretty great. It's a quirk kind of love. We both are very similar. As far as commitment goes, I think those with this type of placement (Venus-Uranus & Moon-Uranus) are looking for a specific kind of relationship that caters to their need to be independent without limiting the relationship itself. Meaning it wouldn't feel as though you are committing necessarily (in a sense you wouldn't be, I mean what is commitment really?), you'd just be being who you are and sharing your life with someone you care deeply about. The issue is the way we perceive commitment. Us Venus-Uranians like to throw labels out the door, which means you can allow the relationship to be whatever you want it to be. It can grow and evolve organically not based on some conventional standard practiced by society.

Relating to people definitely becomes difficult with Uranian energy. But it also allows you, if expressed properly, to be very accepting of others. As far as relationships go, I'm not afraid to share something deep with another, I've done it before, I just don't want to sacrifice my individuality. It's funny I'm the ultimate Uranian and the Ultimate Venusian as a Libra Sun with Venus in the 7th. It's all about accommodating the various parts within yourself. Sending out positive energy into the universe and seeing what manifests. Hopefully a very eccentric alien type individual with a beautiful heart. Thanks to this thread I've realized I need to pay a bit more attention to this Venus-Uranus aspect business. Things are more harmonized than I thought in my chart. Thank you for being so open with your views about these placements. It's nice to know we're not the only ones with these zany aspects.

@Sand, I'd say you have the Moon-Uranus aspect. Maybe you express it in a special way. Uranus is known for it's eccentricity, therefore know two people necessarily expresses their Uranian energy the same. You might not even be aware of it's expression in your personality, but others might be.

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@Sweet - Scorpion,

Here's a nice little description about Venus-Uranus folk from Astro.com. It's very telling.

"Your mind probably plays a very creative and productive role in bringing about fulfillment of your desires. However, you must take into account that what you consider normal and average may be quite unusual or even far-out to your contemporaries. To each his own, however, and you will do well to stick to what you enjoy, for that is surely best for you, no matter what others think. You are a person who needs freedom and space to move in, and you can use it more enjoyably and effectively than most."(astro.com)

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Wow, a guy who has this must be every girl's dream. </sarcasm> Seriously, Moon-Uranus hard aspects is the type that women's dating advice columns/books rail against. Commitmentphobe, emotionally distant/unavailable, time-waster.....

Most guys would love an emotionally unavailable Moon-Uranus girl though.


'Careful what you wish for' has never been so relevant lol. I'd watch a movie about a 'player' who keeps meeting such girls, but they're too eccentric for normal sex so he ends up whipped, and tied to the bed indefinitely and then forgotten about 5 minutes later XD

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Originally posted by whaaat:
'Careful what you wish for' has never been so relevant lol. I'd watch a movie about a 'player' who keeps meeting such girls, but they're too eccentric for normal sex so he ends up whipped, and tied to the bed indefinitely and then forgotten about 5 minutes later XD

A guy I dated briefly, and found this out later, did this. He tied his then gf to a bed and did things to her and then he walked out and called his friends to come and look at her.

He had a Scorpio Moon conj Uranus + Aqua Mars.

I don't know why he didn't do anything too severe on me actually. I think, hope (!), he sensed my close relationhsip with Mars/Pluto that would most likely have injured him for life had he tried something similar..

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