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Starry~*
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posted April 16, 2012 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starry~*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After a painful break up for both parties, what are the chances they will get back together? Infact, how will these two feel about each other once they meet up again after a year based on their synastry?

They were together for 4 yrs before in a relationship. After a year, they've both grown and matured. The question is, once they meet up, will there still be feelings?

Here is their composite and transits on the day that they will meet up again (right now, none of them knows what will be in store for them and how they will feel seeing each other again):

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posted April 16, 2012 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starry~*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bump


anyone?

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Doux Rêve
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posted April 16, 2012 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think they will still feel something.

It may not be as strong as before, of course. But it looks like there is a bond.

Venus in the composite is unaspected.. Wonder how that played/plays out.

tSaturn will be close to the composite ASC, and the Moon and Mercury in the 7th. I am not sure but it looks promising. tSaturn will also conjunct comp.Mars though. So it may signify some coldness, perhaps.

I'm still pretty sure they won't be completely indifferent to each other though.

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posted April 16, 2012 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starry~*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Doux!

I'm also not too sure about the unaspected venus. I've read that it could mean that the planet's energy is unaffected..but maybe to some people that's a bad thing, because I hear that means they don't feel the venus aspects??

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posted April 16, 2012 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capriquarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Probably not. Both will have grown as individuals by that time and will not be projecting the planets that drew them to each other.

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posted April 17, 2012 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starry~*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks.

Anyone else can comment on their synastry? Any insights will be appreciated

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posted April 17, 2012 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreamy_AriesGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Check the progressed synastry too... it could help to figure out whether there are strong aspects that would hold them together again.

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posted April 17, 2012 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starry~*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dreamy_AriesGirl:
Check the progressed synastry too... it could help to figure out whether there are strong aspects that would hold them together again.

Where can I get the progressed synastry chart on Astro.com? Could you let me know? Thanks a bunch!

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posted April 17, 2012 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Starry, you have to cast two separate charts for both people, with their natals progressed. It's in the Extended Chart Selection, under progressions. You can combine natals and transits also. Then compare the positions from one chart to the other.

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posted April 17, 2012 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starry~*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Starry, you have to cast two separate charts for both people, with their natals progressed. It's in the Extended Chart Selection, under progressions. You can combine natals and transits also. Then compare the positions from one chart to the other.

Thanks, I'll do that once I get home and post it up here for anyone to take a look at

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posted April 17, 2012 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Oliviaaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another site and way to do progressed synastry, which is a little easier for me since it tabulates the aspects for you, is to use astrowin.org. Just create a free account.. it'll give you a personal database to keep all your entries. On your personal database go all the way to the bottom where it says "Progressed Planets vs Natal Planets" & "Progressed Planets vs Progressed Planets" and just put in the IDs for the birthdates you have already entered.. and, voila. It'll tell you the aspects between the two going on in the progressed synastry.. and you can also compare the progressed planets of one to the natal planets of the other.

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posted April 17, 2012 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Olivia

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Nine
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posted April 17, 2012 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Where can I get the progressed synastry chart on Astro.com? Could you let me know? Thanks a bunch!

I think in the dropdown menu where you selected transits for this chart, you will also find an Progressed/Transits option.

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The question is, once they meet up, will there still be feelings?

How can you be so sure you haven't already met??

I'm working on something, just have to get the psychology together.

IF you've yearned and burned for him and put a lot of energy into the universe, he will find you...but will you recognize him??

Think back to a time when some random person took a liking to you for inexplicable reasons. That was him. He is just a vessel, and you broke up because the energy had left him. But the energy is immortal, and anyone on that path would have heard your your pleas, and found you.

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posted April 17, 2012 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starry~*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is the progressed synastry: (Girl on the outside)

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posted April 17, 2012 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do I have the correct timeline here?

Dated from 2007 - 2011.

meetup in 2012

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posted April 17, 2012 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starry~*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nine:
Do I have the correct timeline here?

Dated from 2007 - 2011.

meetup in 2012


Hi Nine,

The relationship started in 2007, lasted until June 2011. They DID meet up with each other (stayed over at each other's house over the course of the relationship) After the break up in June 2011, they didn't meet up with each other at all.

The next meet up will be May 19, 2012, to try to come to an understanding about what has happened and to provide some sort of closure.
And also to see if they still have feelings for each other left.

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posted April 17, 2012 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The more I look at your pSynastry the more I see, so I just highlight a few aspects.

On May 19th, I see your pSun @ 4 Cap in an applying conjunction to your nVenus @ 5 Cap. This is a major relationship forming aspect, however this aspect (Sun-Venus) isn't carried over in your synastry with him at this time. This makes me hesitant to say whether he will play either Sun or Venus in this dynamic. You're primed for love, but perhaps not with him.

In 2007 there was a lot going on. Your pVenus moved from Capricorn to Aquarius bringing change to your love life, as an example. Additionally, your pSun went from Sagittarius to Capricorn bringing a serious tone to your life. That, and in doing so posited itself five degrees off your nVenus. What is different about 2007 is, his own pVenus @ 6 Sagittarius is applying to conjunct your nSun @ 9 Sagittarius...mimicking the your own Sun-Venus conjunction in Capricorn.

This aspect Sun-Venus was the pillar on which the relationship rested.

There are other aspects to consider. His pMars @ 20 Libra in applying conjunction to his nSun @ 26 Libra. Once more you can see this aspect replayed in the synastry with his pSun @ 16 Scorpio in conjunction to your pMars @ 18 Scorpio. Taken together you have a fire and spice combination of Sun-Venus (spice) & Sun-Mars (fire).

Thirdly, your pVenus @ 4 Aqua was making a square to your nMars @ 5 Scorpio. In the synastry you also see this mirrored, but with a trine to his nMars @ 7 Libra.

Come 2011, and I see one of the stars of the union has fizzled. Sun-Mars in Scorpio is going strong. Venus trine Mars in Aqua-Libra going strong. But gone is Sun conjunct Venus in Sagittarius. This was major. With Sun-Mars as the dominant conjunction things may have gotten too hot to handle, as they say.

Back to May 19th. hmmmm...Not much has changed in the synastry since 2011, but I see a block or release in your/her chart. Your pVenus @ 5 Aqua is in exact square to your nMars @ 5 Scorpio. This should allow for the flow of energies where once there was blockage. With that out of the way, the Venus-Mars trine can shine through. And finally, love & sexuality is easily communicated - if they were open to it.

So, in 2007 there was Sun-Venus & Sun-Mars. In 2011 there was Sun-Mars, & hesitation on her part. Now, there is Sun-Mars & Venus-Mars.

Elsewhere in the charts, I see he is seven years away from a major new cycle. Now, in the last phase of the last cycle, he has come upon a hurdle - let go, is the message.

Her own chart is showing much a same internal tension, but while he is in a down cycle - letting go. She is in a up cycle, or uphill climb.

Second chance at love?? - too close to call.

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posted April 18, 2012 07:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starry~*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Nine, for your interpretation - I'm very impressed!

I guess you can say he is towards a downhill climb in "letting go" of all the hurt and bad experiences in the past with this relationship. His words exactly "I've changed"

While at the same time, she's just coming out of her own shell, realizing and maturing along the way.

I guess it can't be determined now, we would have to wait until that date to find out!!

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posted April 18, 2012 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starry~*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would progressed synastry be a telling of how people have changed?

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posted April 18, 2012 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Would progressed synastry be a telling of how people have changed?

Yea. pSynastry tells of the changing dynamic within a relationship. eg. In 2007 Sun-Venus was a big part of bond. By 2011 this aspect was no longer there, so you could see a shift and know changes were afoot.

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I guess you can say he is towards a downhill climb in "letting go" of all the hurt and bad experiences in the past with this relationship.

Yea. The Sun-Mars conjunction in Scorpio denotes emotional intensity in whatever disagreement there might have been. With Sun-Mars we know there was a clash of wills. Add Scorpio = hurt feelings.

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His words exactly "I've changed"

hmmmmm...looking at the 2012 charts, I see it is she who has undergone the most changes.

Oh! I seem to have unearthed another square. Back in 2011 your own personal aspects were no longer reflected in the synastry. However, his aspects were. His pMars - nSun conjunct was reflected in a combined pSun-pMars conjunction in Scorpio. Appearing in 2011, which I seem to have missed, was an applying square as well. Squares are said to be separative. Your pSun @ 3 Cap sq his nMars @ 7 Libra. On May 19th, this aspect will remain strong.

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posted April 18, 2012 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starry~*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So in other words, u are saying that the quality of sun sq mars aspect will remain strong on may 19 2012?

That's a strong aspect that causes tension due to clashes of wills..correct?

Hmm...doesn't sound pleasant anymore! Lol


And yes, she has gone thru a huge change...her 12th house sun had t Saturn on it for quite sometime.

His reaction to her was "hmph...took her two mistakes, 1 heartbreak and almost a year later to realize she f'd up."

- the guy is still very angry over what happened, understandable, which I guess can be highlight by some of the conflicting aspects

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posted April 18, 2012 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So in other words, u are saying that the quality of sun sq mars aspect will remain strong on may 19 2012?

Yes. In combination with Sun conj Mars. Basically, the dominant forces from 2011 are still at play. What's different is she has undergone some changes in the love & sex department. Also, she's reached a point in her life with a compelling need to "fight for it." Whatever "it" is.

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That's a strong aspect that causes tension due to clashes of wills..correct?

Yes. The square, in pSynastry, is primarily separative - it keeps people apart. Sun-upon-Mars denotes a clash of wills, but only when made to stand without supporting aspects. In the life of this relationship that was only true in the 2011 time period. While May 19 won't be as rosy as 2007, the emergence of a Venus-Mars trine will add a gentler touch than 2011.

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