posted April 21, 2012 07:25 PM            

As I do more charts, I come to understand them more deeply.It is a life long study but if one has a passion for it, one cannot help oneself. It has the feeling of touching the heartbeat of life. I am thinking of several charts.One is a Pisces ASC with Neptune conjunct the MC. This man brings spirituality to people in an off beat setting. The typical settings in which people seek spirituality such as the churches are, often, the last place you will find it.If you have to put on your best clothes and your Sunday smiles, you know there will be little spirituality there. If you have to smile when you want to scream, you know there is little spirituality there. The first step to true spirituality is honestly. Without honesty, you have an exercise in futility. As such,one needs to look for spirituality in off beat places and with off beat people, perhaps. At any rate, Neptune conjunct the MC will show spirituality to the world. What is spirituality,exactly? It is everything connected with the next dimension. If you have a question which cannot be answered through your five senses, it is in Neptune’s domain.

Another chart is a woman with the Moon conjunct the MC. Someone said to her,”WHY do you wear your heart on your sleeve. It is unseemly” She has her heart on her sleeve as surely as the nose on her face. When one discovers ones MC planet, one is wed to it as surely as a life long partner. One will live out it’s destiny because the planet will play out as sure as breathing. The best the native can do is accept it. The person with a planet conjunct the MC will wear the face of this planet to the world. People may associate this person with this planet. Usually, the person will be both loved and hated for the planets influence. The person will not be a neutral force. If a person has a planet conjunct the ASC, it does not seem to be as far reaching. This person may not be known for this planet. He may manifest it. However, it is not his destiny, as is the MC.

Another man has Chiron conj the Moon which conjuncts the MC. This is as painful as it sounds. This man is destined to show his heart to the world by virtue of Moon conjunct the MC. However, we have a multi- layered situation here as Chiron conjuncts both the Moon and the MC. Chiron conjunct the Moon is great pain with the mother. This man had a mother who was bedridden and a double amputee. He had to act as a full time nurse, as his youth slipped away. On top of that, his pain was there for all to see as is the case with Chiron is conjunct the MC. This proved to be the case. I will not go into the details of how as I want to maintain his privacy.

The last man has Pluto conjunct the MC. Pluto can be a wild card as it is very powerful. If you have a prominent Pluto, you will be a presence. That is a given. However, you can use your power to tear people down, rather than build them up. In this case, one will not reach one’s destiny especially if Pluto is conjunct the MC , as one was made for great things.In one man’s chart, I have seen Pluto used for the primary purpose of ripping people apart.Pluto has turned to sarcasm . Hence, the person may as well not have the placement as it’s power has been perverted. However, Astrology is the science of possibilities, not probabilities. One must take the former and turn it into the latter.

Yes, the middle girl is I

------------------
Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal

posted April 21, 2012 07:36 PM            

I have Venus and the Sun on either side of the MC. I would agree with this statement:

quote:

---

The person with a planet conjunct the MC will wear the face of this planet to the world. People may associate this person with this planet. Usually, the person will be both loved and hated for the planets influence. The person will not be a neutral force.

---

posted April 21, 2012 07:40 PM            

With that said, I can't imagine anyone thinking of me as a mars-like person. Typically what is on the midhaven is what is quite visable in your persona. For me that is not the case. Again, due to heavy affliction, and other elements in my chart overall just being much stronger.

posted April 21, 2012 07:44 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Ami Anne:

The last man has Pluto conjunct the MC. Pluto can be a wild card as it is very powerful. If you have a prominent Pluto, you will be a presence. That is a given. However, you can use your power to tear people down, rather than build them up. In this case, one will not reach one’s destiny especially if Pluto is conjunct the MC , as one was made for great things.In one man’s chart, I have seen Pluto used for the primary purpose of ripping people apart.Pluto has turned to sarcasm . Hence, the person may as well not have the placement as it’s power has been perverted.

---

I have Pluto conjunct MC. No,I don't like to 'rip people apart'. I don't really know how Pluto and north node conjunct MC works in my life.

posted April 21, 2012 07:52 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by enchantress299:
I'm just curious Ami... Do you have any planets conjunct the MC? Or is it one of those things that you are trying to understand more about? I've noticed that you've done a few threads on them, which is why I'm asking.

I have Venus and the Sun on either side of the MC. I would agree with this statement:

[QUOTE]The person with a planet conjunct the MC will wear the face of this planet to the world. People may associate this person with this planet. Usually, the person will be both loved and hated for the planets influence. The person will not be a neutral force.

---

You missed my confession
I have the Moon conj the MC

------------------
Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal

posted April 21, 2012 08:02 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by MillyX:
I have Pluto conjunct MC. No,I don't like to 'rip people apart'. I don't really know how Pluto and north node conjunct MC works in my life.

---

I said it COULD COULD be taken that way. Please,read the whole thing.

------------------
Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal

posted April 21, 2012 08:03 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by tautomer4314:
My mars conjuncts my midhaven. It has the effect of making me want to be the leader and or in charge of anything I do. However, as my mars is heavily afflicted it puts a damper on things quite a bit. Mostly in the form of having hesitation to lead or take charge of things. It's good that it's that it's there though because it gives me the ability to use bursts of physical energy every now and again when I really need it.

With that said, I can't imagine anyone thinking of me as a mars-like person. Typically what is on the midhaven is what is quite visable in your persona. For me that is not the case. Again, due to heavy affliction, and other elements in my chart overall just being much stronger.

---

I see you as a super Mars lol

------------------
Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal

posted April 21, 2012 08:11 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Ami Anne:

I see you as a super Mars lol

---

Really? What's your reasoning behind it? I genuinely can not see how someone would see me in that way, but I could be overlooking or mislabeling something.

posted April 21, 2012 08:14 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by tautomer4314:
Really? What's your reasoning behind it? I genuinely can not see how someone would see me in that way, but I could be overlooking or mislabeling something.

---

------------------
Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal

posted April 21, 2012 08:24 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Astra:
I have Pluto conjunct MC. If someone crosses me, then yes, I will rip them apart (figuratively speaking). Otherwise, I focus more on healing others. People have told me that I can be very comforting during troubled times.

---

------------------
Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal

posted April 21, 2012 08:25 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I know.I am shocked how people see me. Well, we had our incident, shall I say, so no one has to know what it is. You were very controlling lol I was so surprised that you had that reaction. I was shocked really as *I* myself would never have jumped in that way--in a million years. I have to get off this thing. Message me if you want to talk, more. If you want me to erase this, I will, too! xxxx

---

No need to erase it. It is what it is.

I didn't seem myself as controlling, but more as a mediator. Ultimately I saw a million things going wrong between everyone and I could not simply watch it get worse. After everything blew over I just decided to seal my mouth because it's going to only cause problems if I speak any of my opinion on it. I'm not going to throw a rock into a hornets nest unless I am in a sealed container, and I don't have one.

Either way yes, I am a controlling person, and I have many reasons to why I am. I attribute it to my pluto much more so then my mars. My mars is simply what puts it to action when I have to. Which actually could make sense to why you would see it as mars, as one will see action much easier. Even though in the end it is a much smaller force. Ultimately pluto is driving it all.

posted April 21, 2012 08:29 PM            

------------------
Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal

posted April 21, 2012 08:30 PM            

------------------
Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal

posted April 21, 2012 08:32 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Yep, good point about Pluto driving Mars! Very good point. Do they have aspects between them?

---

Yup, they trine each other with only 1deg orb.

posted April 21, 2012 08:33 PM            

------------------
Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal

posted April 21, 2012 08:36 PM            

------------------
Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal

posted April 21, 2012 08:38 PM            

I will defend whom I love, if I can. What has happened means much less, basically speaking. It must be the Cancer Moon which is very nest like and territorial. lol

------------------
Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal

posted April 21, 2012 08:51 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I guess what really, really surprised me was WHY you got involved when no one really mattered to you.*I* did the most of anyone as you knew me the most but that was not a factor for YOU. That shocked me as the people are always the main factor for me, always.

I will defend whom I love, if I can. What has happened means much less, basically speaking. It must be the Cancer Moon which is very nest like and territorial. lol

---

You nailed it. We are simply VERY different in this regard. People are always a factor for me as well, but I use that factor in a completely different way.

For me who is involved is not a factor to me opening my mouth. It is a factor for how I approach it and deal with it, but it's not going to hinder getting involved with something or not. That is unless, it will result in some kind of punishment being innacted upon me. I simply look at a situation and weigh out how things will be taken, and if it passes over the threashold of what I permit, I go for it.

The actions taken will ALWAYS trump the people in my eyes. I want to be fair and logical and that requires disregarding a good chunk of emotional weight.

posted April 21, 2012 09:54 PM            

------------------
Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal