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alaz7200
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posted April 23, 2012 02:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alaz7200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus/Pluto hard aspects?

I have reviewed so many charts in which women with Venus conjunct Pluto mother children young, or at least unplanned and typically in relationships with men by whom they are obsessed, in which the child is more a formality -- only to give up the children shortly after birth or abandon them later in life. They also seem to have no remorse about doing so. Upon further scrutiny, however, you see that the women themselves were abandoned by their own mothers, feeding their Venus/Pluto need for obsessive attachments because of their deep-rooted traumas of abandonment. So stupidly, though, they repeat the same mistakes with the next generation. It really is a nasty cycle. I recently did the charts of a grandmother, mother, and daughter -- ALL 3 of THEM had Venus conjunct Pluto and each abandoned her child and/or were sexually molested as kids (Venus/Pluto) leading to control issues.

I, on the other hand, have Venus/Pluto conjunct in Scorpio and intend to be the most doting father, most likely smothering my children with too much love. (Also a manifestation of Venus/Pluto)

Does either one of your parents have VENUS/PLUTO hard aspect? How did this manifest in their raising you?

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RedScorp
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posted April 23, 2012 03:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My mom has Venus semisextile Pluto, if that counts! Do I continue...?

EDIT! Oh! Hard aspect! My bad, I got ahead of myself here. Sorry!

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Lonake
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posted April 23, 2012 03:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yea my mom has Venus Scorp and she had that experience, but no hard Venus/Pluto, only the sextile.

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Hera
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posted April 23, 2012 03:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah. Mom has the square. Taurus Venus - Leo Pluto. Father doesn't have the aspect, he has Pluto opp Sun (abusive father). Mom has Pluto square Sun (she had an abusive father too).

I wasn't "abandoned" per se, but I did feel neglected and that lead me to think, for a major part of my childhood, that I was adopted.

Mom is a control freak, father was kind of absent/in his own alcohol-ruled world and abusive himself.

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sand
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posted April 23, 2012 05:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well i come from 3 generations of big men controlled by small women LOL! in fact my dad was laughing at me when we saw each other at a restaurant apparently being "bossed" around by a pisces.. pfft.. projection!

my mom doesn't have it. venus in aries and pluto in virgo. my dad might. sag sun, moon, venus, merc, mars, with the same pluto in virgo. wonder what that means..

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MessyLilLeo
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posted April 23, 2012 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MessyLilLeo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A friend of mine has this aspect in Scorpio too. She was raised by her father, her mother started a different family. Now my friend has a 10 month old baby, and she is currently engaged in a messy custody battle where she might lose. She's completely upset, she's been the primary caretaker since birth. But before all of this, she's been a very doting mother.

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sweet-scorpion
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posted April 23, 2012 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes... Venus-Pluto runs in my family it seems. And not just with the women either, unfortunately. My grandmother has Venus square Pluto. She is smothering when she mothers, and has subtle abandonment issues in her relationships. She's very possessive especially of me, for some reason. I did our composite chart and we had an 8th house stellium too. :0

My mother has Venus trine Pluto. She abandoned me, well she says she didn't, but really did move on to other things in life instead of taking care of me. She says she 'visited me a lot anyway' which disgusts me. She neglected me throughout my childhood of genuine maternal care. True enough, she has Moon square Uranus, which seems to lead to a lack of understanding with your own role as a mother. I've read women with Moon-Uranus squares often have difficulties mothering. But in general, she is just a cold person. Messed up severely.

Also, I have Venus-Pluto but the conjunction, and it has manifested in a more positive way thank God, since the rest of my chart points to me being empathetic. I care deeply especially for my friends and the associations that mean a lot to me, like UN. I have 11H Venus. My Pluto is in H12 but I'm not sure how that changes the conjunction...?

I would never abuse my child, not in a million years... in fact with Chiron-Moon I would never feel like I did enough for them even if I did.

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