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Topic: When you hurt a Pisces feelings..
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Lioness
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posted April 24, 2012 08:23 PM
  
Sighhh.. Ok so I did it again
(well his moon sq my mars) So I guess its always going to happen... We had a very long talk yesterday about what to do about us. We are still stuck.. He told me some things he's worried about. I told him some things that Im worried about.. We discussed it maturely.. But still with no conclusion on what to do about us. Still stuck in the same spot.
Ok no biggie..
He's stressing over it, saying he started biting his nails... Well near the end of the conversation.. He said right now lets just agree we have lust for each other.
I said yes I can agree to that... Then BAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He says BUT I know you love me, and you always have! This really really bothered me, because well how can he tell ME how Im feeling..
Plus Im not in love with him..
Im obsessed, mesmerized, lusting, desiring him, I like him ALOT.. But for me thats not love.. Thats not how love works.
Love is a super slow process that takes years of growth and understanding and connecting..
I dont have love for him.. I care deeply YES.. but Im just not at the love stage. I felt he really put me on the spot... I didnt know what to say, and yeah maybe my ego got in the way a bit.. (shame shame on me)
But I told him
I Wuve ya lots, but thats not how love works for me. I dont just fall in love like that..
I said IDK if I can love anyone, and I know love is not in the cards for me.. He never replied back to me..
This morning I texted him.. He ignored me...
He always always always always replies to my texts.. Sometimes an hr later when he can, but he always replies..
Nothing..
At the end of the day. I texted him Why the silent treatment? He replied just busy.
I asked are you upset. He replied Im busy.
I said Ok.. I understand, and I left it at that.
So Im not really sure whats bothering him, the "talk" about what to do or the love thing..
I know he's upset.. I know he just needs some space right now.. I know he will call me in a few days and talk to me..
But Im at a loss here...
I feel so bad.. I had to be honest.. I dont want to lose him..
Anyways he doesnt love me... I think maybe he WANTS me to love him, but not return it.. IDK its all very confusing... So should I just wait for him to contact me,when he's ready or should try to contact him... I feel horrible.... IP: Logged |
ariesdragon
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posted April 24, 2012 08:37 PM
I think let him breathe for a bit and let him come to you after he thinks it through...Be strong it's gonna be ok. IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted April 24, 2012 08:44 PM
Thanks.. Yeah I'm giving him space.. Only idk what he got upset abt...
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ariesdragon
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posted April 24, 2012 08:50 PM
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Originally posted by Lioness:
Thanks.. Yeah I'm giving him space.. Only idk what he got upset abt...
Sux
It's because he believed you love him and you're saying you don't, you only "wuv him" IP: Logged |
Sashar
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posted April 24, 2012 08:56 PM
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Originally posted by Lioness:
He says BUT I know you love me, and you always have! This really really bothered me, because well how can he tell ME how Im feeling..
Plus Im not in love with him..
Im obsessed, mesmerized, lusting, desiring him, I like him ALOT..
Do you mind if I don't attempt to answer your question but say something else? First of all, I love the capital ME. Hello Leo. 
and second, I have some questions, Do you know his chart?
The way you described how you feel, if you look at his chart, does that translate to "love" for him based on his placements/aspects? I ran into something similar a few times before, but didn't have (and probably still don't) enough Astrological experience to see that kind of thing. Just kind of curious. Either way, I think it's subtly humorous (and time for me to go to sleep) a kitty going after a fishy. I hope things work out. It's been my experience when guys say, "I know you love me." They say that because they're fishing for it so they don't have to be the one to go out on the limb and say it first, but it seems like you have a bit more back story than that... and I've never dealt with Pisces. ------------------
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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted April 24, 2012 09:10 PM
It's relatively straightforward. I have two Pisces men in my life: my father and my son. As much as you believe you have healthy Leo pride and an ego, you deflated his male pride a couple of notches. Men become as lukewarm as a flat soda when their egos are popped. He'll turn around in due course. It's good to tell him the truth, but watch out for that fragile male pride next time. Some men don't respond well to a swift kick in the testicles. For myself, I don't care about such semantics, and that is how I can handle a sharp mouthed Leo woman with ease (much to her chagrin), but we're not talking about earth here. IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted April 24, 2012 09:45 PM
Could he have been looking for *attention*..............
Because that 'i know you love me' thing sounds manipulative.IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted April 24, 2012 09:47 PM
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Originally posted by Sashar:
Do you mind if I don't attempt to answer your question but say something else? First of all, I love the capital ME. Hello Leo.
and second, I have some questions, I ran into something similar a few times before, but didn't have (and probably still don't) enough Astrological experience to see that kind of thing. Just kind of curious. Either way, I think it's subtly humorous (and time for me to go to sleep) a kitty going after a fishy. I hope things work out. It's been my experience when guys say, "I know you love me." They say that because they're fishing for it so they don't have to be the one to go out on the limb and say it first, but it seems like you have a bit more back story than that... and I've never dealt with Pisces.
Yes I know he was fishing.. But IDK why he would put me on the spot like that. I honestly dont think this man is in love with me.. He said earlier Lets call it lust.. But he wants me to love him?
what does that say??
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Originally posted by Sashar:
Do you know his chart?
The way you described how you feel, if you look at his chart, does that translate to "love" for him based on his placements/aspects?
IDK... for sure if it translate to love for him.. His moon is conjunct my Neptune which is Shangara LA feeling.. But IDK... anything right now.. IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted April 24, 2012 09:48 PM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
It's relatively straightforward. I have two Pisces men in my life: my father and my son. As much as you believe you have healthy Leo pride and an ego, you deflated his male pride a couple of notches. Men become as lukewarm as a flat soda when their egos are popped. He'll turn around in due course. It's good to tell him the truth, but watch out for that fragile male pride next time. Some men don't respond well to a swift kick in the testicles. For myself, I don't care about such semantics, and that is how I can handle a sharp mouthed Leo woman with ease (much to her chagrin), but we're not talking about earth here.
Thanks... Yeah I guess I hurt his pride... Only I dont get why.. Cuz if Lets say I said yeah I love you, then he would say wooo hey.. step back.. WTF... Chill...
It was a trick question... lol
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Lioness
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posted April 24, 2012 09:50 PM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
Could he have been looking for *attention*..............
Because that 'i know you love me' thing sounds manipulative.
You think he's trying to manipulate me?
How so... I did catch me off guard.. So if he was trying to manipulate me, you think he's upset cuz it didnt work?? IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted April 24, 2012 10:03 PM
Every time someone has said that to me, they were trying to manipulate.
It sounds like he's trying to keep you on the hook, doesn't want you to swim away.
Close, but not too close. Close enough to feed his ego.
Wants to put out a lil cookie, so you'll bite and feel satisfied, but it's only crumbs he keeps feeding you.
He put out the cookie, expected an anticipatory smile, an acknowledgment.
He didn't get the reaction he wanted.I'm not in his head so I don't know what he's thinking. Can only give my thoughts on the matter.
And I agree, space in general is a *good thing* to give men. IP: Logged |
starzy54
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posted April 24, 2012 10:05 PM
Perhaps surprising him the way you did, saying you don't actually love him, took away his, lets say hope, for this relationship to become something more solid than it is at the moment? Maybe he wants it to progress, and wants you to be in love with him, so you both have something strong to stand on.One person being in love, is 50% of the equation, better than nothing in his mind? Its something to build upon.Maybe, you loving him, is the reason he likes you? Perhaps now that he knows you do not love him,it has saddend him.Because lust is really not enough to keep things going in his mind.now that NO ONE is in love, you or him, the relationship has changed to him and he needs time to process this. I am just throwing it all out there, sorry if i don't make sense.It could be something else. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted April 24, 2012 10:14 PM
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Originally posted by Lioness:
Thanks... Yeah I guess I hurt his pride... Only I dont get why.. Cuz if Lets say I said yeah I love you, then he would say wooo hey.. step back.. WTF... Chill...
It was a trick question... lol
First of all, I agree wholeheartedly with you. Don't tell me how I feel. By the way, how do you feel? What I don't get is that childish game of waiting to see who's going to blink first and say those infamous words. Does it even matter when it's supposed to be mutual? Is this supposed to be some power hungry mind game? It's good that you were honest with him and told him how you operate/feel. What puzzles me is that after being with you for this while, he doesn't get how you feel about the concept of love? Come on man, get a clue. You say you have no earth, and that may be true, but you're still a straight shooting blunt and to the point Leo. Not everyone is in tune with that off the bat. It takes time for some people to get used to that. As for the male ego, it's fragile like glass. Sorry that men cannot be strong on all fronts. Some of us may be stronger in some areas but weaker in others. Mr. Fishy seems to not take well to his ego being bruised. IP: Logged |
Libreo
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posted April 24, 2012 10:30 PM
I agree with YTA & Lonake. And I also once had a thing with a man who had his Mars in Pisces, I have it in the asc like you but still I have a lot of fire....like you, and I couldn't handle the sulky sookiness of a man with Pisces Mars. The silent treatment and the sulking and the lack of take charge. I didn't like it. Don't give him an inch (ask 'what's wrong') that's what he wants and he'll take a mile and you'll be set up in the habit of him going away to cry when things don't go his way.IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted April 24, 2012 11:07 PM
His mars is in aqua.Ok guys ufo idk... My emotions got the better.of me...maybe it's that moon pluto paranoid thing.. Well he just called me saying sorry babe that he couldn't reply to me, that it was slamming busy for him today.. 
oohhhhh u were really busy... My bad..
I guess I feel a little foolish.....
Dohhhhhhhhhhh IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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posted April 24, 2012 11:15 PM
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But he wants me to love him?
what does that say??
I think it says - emotionally needy - low self esteem - A Sun that is not very strong and not very happy. Lioness - You lucked out when it comes to self-esteem... having a Leo Sun & Leo everything LoL 
Not everyone is you. IP: Logged |
Nahimana
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posted April 24, 2012 11:22 PM
I swear Pisces people have a way of manipulating a situation and playing victim afterwards. He totally turned the entire situation to his favor, ultimately making you seem like the problem, even though the two of you had started this thing out together.My advice: Give him the space...pisces like him usually need the time to sulk in their own pity anyway. IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted April 24, 2012 11:25 PM
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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
I think it says - emotionally needy - low self esteem - A Sun that is not very strong and not very happy. Lioness - You lucked out when it comes to self-esteem... having a Leo Sun & Leo everything LoL
Not everyone is you.
Lol... I guess ur.right abt the self esteem.. He does need alot of reassurance..
Think goodness saturn keeps me mellow, or I would probably be some ego lunatic..lol... I did get insecure abt this.. It was not the norm so my mind went into thinking the worst...
I don't like worrying abt things like this...
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Libreo
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posted April 24, 2012 11:27 PM
I was just using his Mars in Pisces as an example of a guy with anything significant in Pisces! IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted April 24, 2012 11:44 PM
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Originally posted by Libreo:
I was just using his Mars in Pisces as an example of a guy with anything significant in Pisces!
ooo.. Ok gotcha!He's pretty grounded..hes not flaky for the most part...
But yeah the silent treatment is torture for a leo...
I didn't get any attention.....lol He always gives me lots of attention... Even on busy days... So idk I freaked out... I'm a silly lioness IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero
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posted April 25, 2012 05:42 AM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
Every time someone has said that to me, they were trying to manipulate.
It sounds like he's trying to keep you on the hook, doesn't want you to swim away.
Close, but not too close. Close enough to feed his ego.
Wants to put out a lil cookie, so you'll bite and feel satisfied, but it's only crumbs he keeps feeding you.
He put out the cookie, expected an anticipatory smile, an acknowledgment.
He didn't get the reaction he wanted.I'm not in his head so I don't know what he's thinking. Can only give my thoughts on the matter.
And I agree, space in general is a *good thing* to give men.
--I completely agree that it's manipulative. I had someone do that to me, in the context of friendship. I had to know whether or not the person really cared or was just playing me. As a test, I didn't reply to a short message sent to me by this person, just to see if the person would miss me and write back/make plans with me, or if the person wouldn't care and would just ignore me. The person did the latter, proving to me that I was being manipulated. Things were good with us in the beginning, but then this started happening. I'm still not 100% sure why, but my point is that even if things were real and genuine in the beginning, they can turn for the worse and the other person can become manipulative, even if they used to care at one time. IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero
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posted April 25, 2012 05:46 AM
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Originally posted by Lioness:
His mars is in aqua.Ok guys ufo idk... My emotions got the better.of me...maybe it's that moon pluto paranoid thing.. Well he just called me saying sorry babe that he couldn't reply to me, that it was slamming busy for him today..
oohhhhh u were really busy... My bad..
I guess I feel a little foolish.....
Dohhhhhhhhhhh
--again, someone (actually, two people, that I can think of) used to do that to me too: used to make me feel guilty for being upset but then, I found out some things that led me to realize that I had no reason to feel bad this is a textbook trick: make it seem like the person who is upset is the bad guy and toy with that person's feelings IP: Logged |
ariesdragon
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posted April 25, 2012 10:14 AM
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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
--again, someone (actually, two people, that I can think of) used to do that to me too: used to make me feel guilty for being upsetbut then, I found out some things that led me to realize that I had no reason to feel bad this is a textbook trick: make it seem like the person who is upset is the bad guy and toy with that person'
s feelings
I really have to ask what their reason is for wanting and making someone who is upset even more upset. I seriously didn't know there was a book of games until it happened to me. What else is on this "textbook" plz share.  I would like to be aware of the sad immoral games ppl will play when they supposedly love you. Thank you. IP: Logged |
mockingbird
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posted April 25, 2012 10:30 AM
^ My Pisces Moon daughter's great at that (making you feel horrible for hurting her feelings, usually because she's gotten a legitimate, not-harsh punishment for something). My Pisces Sun falls for it every time, but my Aqua Moon just doesn't get it. IP: Logged |
hippichick
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posted April 25, 2012 03:37 PM
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