posted April 26, 2012 11:19 PM            

It was only as I got older that I became irritable and temperamental. I would estimate this turn of character around the age of 10. It has gotten considerably worse since, and now at age 20, I actively partake in Yoga and strenuous daily physical exercise so as to deplete my body of all of the "anger" I so routinely feel. I have a hairline temper and if someone has the audacity to oppose my attacks, it can get ugly. Somehow I always manage to justify my outburst, but deep within, I know they are uncalled for. I HATED conflict as a child, but it seems that nowadays, I seek it regularly. I have to hear my roar every so often to feel alive. I attribute all of this to the emotional repression I endured as a child - I feel jipped out of natural emotional development, so I feel entitled to undue outburst nowadays. I also felt unable to have a voice or defend myself as a child, so that nowadays I am ADAMANTINE about devouring anyone who dares to threaten my safety. Sometimes, though, I can unconsciously seek out this confrontation so as to prove myself worthy to myself.

My relationship with my mother has had its ups and downs. I didn't experience the "Martian mother" so synonymous with Moon-Mars aspects; my father was more the Mars (abuser) and my mother was more the Moon (the victim). She did, however, divorce his ass, and raise my older brother and I as a single mother, which can be seen as a very Martian pursuit. I was obsessed with her as a child and would never leave her side. My overwhelming love for her developed into paranoia that some danger would befall her - to the point that I'd begin convulsing or my throat would start to close and my bowels would be induced. As puberty hit, my "attachment" to her diminished, and it seemed all we could do was argue and bicker. Our arguments were and still are more akin to sister-brother than mother-son arguments. (Perhaps this has to do with Moon in Gemini). We continue to have our problems to this day, mainly because one of us (usually me) is so sensitive to what the other says, and argument inevitably ensues.

All things aside, we love each other to death and I couldn't live without her. I will always commend her for all she sacrificed for my brother and me. Though we don't necessarily have moral agreements (Moon in 9th), I have never experienced love like the love I have for my mother. I can talk to her about anything, do anything, and know that her love is unconditional, which is something to covet.

Moon/Mars makes me an emotional hardbody, and it's seldom that I'm every brought to tears by anything. Moon in Gemini is too cerebral for emotions as it is, but the only thing that can and will bring me to tears, is any problem surrounding my mother.

posted April 28, 2012 06:15 AM            

And I've found that if I set aside time to be creative, draw pictures, make collages or whatever, my intuition comes alive, and I get really happy.

This is like the Pisces moon (creativity) and Gemini Mars (writing, hand-eye coordination) reconciling their differences and collaborating.

posted April 28, 2012 02:49 PM            

Doux Rêve, do you have the opposition or the square?

Faith, Sorry to hear about your Mom It's really interesting what you said about the physical and emotional desires being at odds with one another. Of course it makes perfect sense but I hadn't though about it in exactly that way before. I can definitely relate to that. I have a Taurus Moon in the 12th house and my Mars is in Leo (4th) so the energies are sort of like having Moon/Venus square Sun/Mars. Very feminine energies in conflict with very masculine ones - but in water houses making things very emotional.

Personally, I feel like I have to find the balance of my internal yin and yang. And yes, exercise is, I think, crucial for a Moon/Mars person to help achieve balance. (I also think a healthy sex life can help with this )

I agree with the idea of using one's creative energy too. Since my Mars is in Leo, when those faculties are not being used, I think I actually get a build-up of energy that has nowhere to go.

For the record, I had quite a troublesome childhood with my mother and went from feeling protected and nurtured to suddenly the complete opposite, daily. It was constant volatility and not knowing what to expect next lead to extreme hyper vigilance (always on alert in order to detect what mood was coming at me next). It's definitely interesting too, if you do/did have conflicts with your mother as a Moon/Mars person, to check the chart of your mother. Often, the mother also has Moon square Mars in her chart - mine does. So I think I got the double whammy of natal and nurture.

I've also read that if your aspect (Moon) is applying (waxing) then the anger is more likely to come out as passive-aggresiveness and if it's separating (waning) then it's a bit easier for the individual to use this energy more positively. Apparently Ghandi had the waning aspect. But again, I've just read this, not researched it so it would be interesting to see what people here notice about that in themselves and their charts.

I think so far we've talked here about how to deal with the aspect, but as far as mastering it goes, I think it comes down to acceptance and forgiveness - just my personal opinion. Chime in if you disagree

The reason I say that is because I think a lot of the anger comes from the fact that generally speaking, Moon square Mars people do have to deal with volatile emotions during the formative years of their lives and then push all of that down in order to cope. And if you are not allowed to express any of that anger or those feelings, eventually it can turn into depression (if you turn the anger against yourself) or rage (when you cannot contain it any longer).

So acceptance of your feelings and then forgiveness of mother (or father in alaz's case) and perhaps ourselves.

posted May 27, 2012 01:07 AM            

Despite the fact that both my Mars and moon have an Aries dwad, they don't seem to fight each other, or give me internal conflict. In fact, the Capricorn energy lends a steadfast, earthy tone which balances well with the loftiness common in air moons. My moon, in return, gives an intellectual "push" to my stubborn, and slow-moving Mars as needed. That dwad synergy might account for the energy alignment.

Consider other factors in play. For instance, in my chart, I also have Saturn-Jupiter [conjunct, 1 degree orb - massive tempering effect to all they touch, considering their dwads are Capricorn and Sagittarius respectively, heh] both conjuncting my moon, and by extension, squaring off with my Mars.

Each of us is different and unique; there may be a "tempering" aspect going on here or there. You just need to look for them, and see how you can properly channel your energies.

posted May 27, 2012 02:07 AM            

As a child, I hated violence. Not that my house was a battle field but that's how I perceived it. More so because I've Neptune on the Asc which trines my Moon. My mom was the victim & dad, the abuser. Fights weren't all that common but every time they fought I would hide in a corner, cry & pray for death. Dad's bitchy mom would instigate most fights so when I kicked her out at age 13, things got better. I'd had enough but never thought I'd vent out my frustration in a manner like this. I was such a meek, fearful little thing & then comes a day when all of a sudden, BOOM! I blame my mom for putting up with **** & dad for dishing it out. Others do to you what you let them do. I've no sympathy for those women who don't want to defend themselves.

My temper is fine(Mars sext Saturn) but once I'm ****** , there's no return. I can't hit women but have got violent with men in the past to the point of ripping off their shirts in public & hitting them with rods. Most of my Gandhian principles failed. I've a high pain threshold & stamina. Being physically active is important as otherwise I become very irritable. I used to wake up at 5:30, go to school, come back home at 3, eat, walk to gym & work out for the next 4 hours(Sun conj Mars as well).

posted May 27, 2012 06:19 AM            

In a relationship, when we disagree, I can find it hard to even be in the same room with my mate. I often expect things to run smoothly(unrealistic) and am quick to sus out disagreements.

Another way that it manifests is that I tend to avoid guys wo are too emotional in their displays of affection. I like it when the guy has some sort of control/balance over how they feel. Public displays of emotions tend to creep me out.

But at the same time, I don't respond well to stoic people.It can be very confusing!

posted May 27, 2012 08:37 AM            

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posted May 28, 2012 03:10 AM            

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Originally posted by Wild-flower:
Hmm, I was hoping this was going to be a guide on getting over the aspect !

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Ha!! Me too!

posted May 28, 2012 08:49 AM            

I have the natal Square.

In some ways I percieved my early years and even now similar to depth. My parents argued and still do although it isn't malicious in anyway and there is nothing really behind it other than raised voices and frustration. However, it is exactly that sort of tension that I feel epitomises the Moon Mars Square. That emotional frustration without any physical action.

I think that square aspects perhaps provide the most difficult energies to reconcile as oppositions at least are connected to each other. Squares arrive perpendicular to each other with very little in common.

I feel the greatest difficulty with this square is trying to get what you are feeling with your mars across and what you are feeling with your moon across. They may not necessarily agree with each other but neither should we force them to try and agree as that will inevitably supress one the energies.

This aspect gives me a lot of energy and tension which I feel, along with other parts of my chart, draw me towards being competitive and working out my inner tensions and aggressions through sport and exercise. During my final year of exams at University I chose to focus on revision and forego playing sport. I remember being extremely agitated and have a lot of inner tension, if I had to describe the feeling it would be something akin to just before the Hulk appears from Bruce Banner. That feeling of trying to contain and prevent an emotional explosion.

Now a days, I don't try and contain my emotions as much, although I still do to some degree as it is in my nature. However, I openly express my frustrations directly and honestly for the most part as I feel thats the best way to get it out. If I say whatever I am feeling and get it out there I don't have to hold on to it and it won't cause any internal tension for me.

If I could give any advice to getting to grips with this aspect natally, it would be to not supress either your emotions or actions, moon or mars. That is when tension starts to build and anger, frustration, maybe even depression may start to appear. If you are similar to myself or others in which this aspect provides a lot of energy, I would recommend finding an active outlet for that energy, sport or exercise of some kind. The release of endorphins and other positive hormones and chemicals will really help ease the tension of this aspect.

If you have this aspect in synastry then there very well may be misunderstandings and disagreements as well as upsetting each other. I would suggest letting all the tension out in whatever way, hopefully not in one that is permanently damaging to the relationship and hopefully you will grow stronger as a partnership for being able to openly express this tension. I feel that tensions in relationships are what tend to keep them going longer rather than those without any tensions to spark interest or growth in relationships.

posted January 25, 2014 03:02 AM              

She got mad at my sister for getting involved and said i dont like you...i hate you. You're a meano!!! And kicked her lightly while she was walking by. She was doing the same to me.

She didnt dare to her great grandmother who is an Aries.

My sister has been a big ***** lately though because shes pregnant and gets nasty and bitchy with people.

In my times we would have gotten a whipping but cant do that nowadays. This generation is rebellious and will grow to hate.

If she throws a tantrum i have noticed she only calms down if i carry her and soothe her, then she cries.

Should i put her in karate?

She was very tired today and cranky. It was a battle to get her on the school bus this morning. Bus drivers assistant had to carry her on because she was crying and irritated.

Thats the only negative moon aspect she has. Her moon is in her 12th house and her mars is in her 9th house.

She is a gemini sun, scorpio moon, gemini mercury, leo mars, venus in gemini

I am a gemini sun, taurus moon, gemini mercury, libra mars, venus in taurus.

She is very attached to me.

I once read in her birth chart that she would be a drama queen. Little arguments with family everyday but quickly make up and in the end we would all love eachother. I was just like her at that age.

posted February 28, 2014 07:20 PM            

Would the square mean the love or emotions you feel for someone can turn you off sexually? Like feeling the emotions makes it hard to feel desire?

Would a partner need to be able to be the love needed to appease the moon sign and be the sexuality needed to appeal to the mars sign?

posted March 03, 2014 03:06 AM            

I really want to know how people with such placement should control it, or channel it because i am approaching a girl with such placement.

And i have a tremendous amount of worries and inquiries running like mustangs in my head regarding her, and whether to continue or not, as i am already, since the first few times we have met, feeling a lot of tension inside her. But i do like her a lot.

I have a capricorn sun @ 0.4, she has a capricorn moon somewhere between 5 and 17 degree, but i can sense a sun/moon conjunction (very obvious in her eyes), my moon is in leo 12, her mars is in aries @ 7, and my mars is in libra @ 20!

Now a person with such conflict, would they need to borrow their partner's moon, or mars? Or both? Would it make them feel relaxed? Or make them identify more with themselves? Because my moon would definitely help this girl out, but my mars won't. But actually her sun is in gemini @ 18, so she would at least appreciate my mars.

And i have the same question as Gabby: how would this affect them sexually?

I believe that in attraction synastry: conj = fusion with a slight friction, trine = harmony, opposition = interest and intrigue, square = animal! I think this way as square is an attraction generated from dislike, so it is very primal, and carries a bit of disregard to the planet's needs: it objectifies the planet: like the venus square mars, bimbo **** vs jerk jock analogy.

So correct me if i am wrong: i think these natives, when they are sexually aroused, they kinda feel uncomfortable with their type of sexuality, maybe slightly disgusted sometimes as if their own sexuality is a taboo! However, they do enjoy this feeling because of the raw nature of this aspect, which in turn, makes them feel REALLY dirty with a bitter sweet sensation to sex.

The nature of mars is to go forward. So this will happen with the moon, shutting it down, as if it is telling it:"Just shut up, this is hot!" And when the person finds themselves enjoying a "taboo", the moon will give in and enjoy too, so it will reinforce more dirtiness. It's as if each time these people have sex, they feel like they are raping themselves, forcing sex on their psyche, and surrendering to raw pleasure.

But how would this translate with a partner? I have never been with someone in bed with this placement, but i think they will be greatly involved in being "conquered" via domination/submission, since they do kinda conquer themselves almost every time they do it. This will probably involve struggle, aggression, and then finally letting go! One more thing regarding synastry: would this aspect make these,people identify more with a synastry mars square moon? Make them more or less used to it and maybe like it too?

Now regarding anger, do these people tend to fight a lot? Well, mars provoked by moon should stirr anger of course, but does it go out on their partners? Or again would a trining moon let them identify with it and break the square?