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hannaramaa
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posted April 27, 2012 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I get manipulated all the time by people, and by manipulated I mean that I believe they're telling the truth and would never hurt me or do something to hurt me because I haven't hurt them. I know it sounds stupid to more hardened individuals but I have that Aries projection thing going on where I believe everyone has just a good a heart as I do. I've had this problem of people taking advantage of me my whole life and I'm not sure how to curb it. I have Sun and Venus square Neptune in the 11th and 7th houses (respectively)

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posted April 27, 2012 01:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capriquarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just presume everyone's lying. Because that's what people do. Lies make the world go 'round. That is the truth.

Just let whatever they say go in one ear and out the other, and do what you want lol

~Pluto in the 1st

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posted April 27, 2012 02:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
I just presume everyone's lying. Because that's what people do. Lies make the world go 'round. That is the truth.

Just let whatever they say go in one ear and out the other, and do what you want lol


Capri....dare I say, I think you're lying...

Hannaramaa: Girl...guy trust me. I've felt like that often, only my chart reads like I should be a shrewd mother bleeper. lol. Idk why I get duped.

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Capriquarius
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posted April 27, 2012 02:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capriquarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's so true. I have Mercury conjunct Neptune, and we all know how honest and objective that configuration is.

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Betty Boop
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posted April 27, 2012 02:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah - presume everyone's lying.
That's good advice.

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hannaramaa
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posted April 27, 2012 02:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
I just presume everyone's lying. Because that's what people do. Lies make the world go 'round. That is the truth.

Just let whatever they say go in one ear and out the other, and do what you want lol

~Pluto in the 1st


That is really good advice.

And don't you hate people who tell us we have our "guard up," it's like DOLCEANDGABBANAHELLO of course we do. Nobody is entirely "good" anymore!

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hannaramaa
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posted April 27, 2012 02:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also Capri - interesting because my Libra friend with Scorpio rising (and Pluto in the 1st I believe...unless it's the same thing. Whatever.) said the same thing on a different date and topic, verbatum.

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posted April 27, 2012 02:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i believe people. most lies have no effect on me. even if i can catch it i know i should let it go. it's the really really subtle manipulation by the feeler types like cancer/ pisces i find hard to detect.

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hannaramaa
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posted April 27, 2012 02:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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i believe people. most lies have no effect on me. even if i can catch it i know i should let it go. it's the really really subtle manipulation by the feeler types like cancer/ pisces i find hard to detect.

That's exactly who brought this issues up! And I feel the same way. If you lie to me but I KNOW inside you're lying to me - no effect. It's when I realize I've been lied to and didn't catch it and I believed you that I have a problem with. And it's a cancer rising, Pisces sun that sent me into this small tyrade in the first place.

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posted April 27, 2012 02:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
I just presume everyone's lying. Because that's what people do. Lies make the world go 'round. That is the truth.

Just let whatever they say go in one ear and out the other, and do what you want lol

~Pluto in the 1st


U make my kokoro go doki doki.

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posted April 27, 2012 02:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
That's exactly who brought this issues up! And I feel the same way. If you lie to me but I KNOW inside you're lying to me - no effect. It's when I realize I've been lied to and didn't catch it and I believed you that I have a problem with. And it's a cancer rising, Pisces sun that sent me into this small tyrade in the first place.

hahaha! those are my mom's placements! so hard to detect! i am even pluto conj asc, merc opposite pluto. i can sniff out shady types probably because it's a more direct manner but the indirect approach is berryberry sneaky..

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posted April 27, 2012 03:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AND! AND! She has a Libra moon. I knew it from day one I probably shouldn't trust her but believing in astrology completely like that vs. believing a stranger I just met... well, the stranger in front of me won out i guess. we're friends, but now i'm realizing we shouldn't be THAT close 'cause she isn't straight up.

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posted April 27, 2012 03:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blue light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I totally agree I hate being deceived especially lied to .....assume everyone is a liar until they proof otherwise maybe an option !

What are the astrological placements of someone who is a compulsive liar anyone know?

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posted April 27, 2012 03:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Blue light:

I totally agree I hate being deceived especially lied to .....assume everyone is a liar until they proof otherwise maybe an option !

What are the astrological placements of someone who is a compulsive liar anyone know?


My experience Cancer has always been in a personal (or two) planets including the ASC, now. However, the Cancer sun I think only does it for self-protection whereas other Cancer placements do it for whatever reason

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posted April 27, 2012 03:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont think people lying. Everyone have their own truth. Our life will changes over time and also our truth. The truth have many sides.

I dont care about what people think and say about me. Im responsible over my own thought and life.

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posted April 27, 2012 03:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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well, the stranger in front of me won out i guess.

That's not good.
Not because you discounted the astrology.... but because she was a stranger.
You can be friends with someone on a more surface level and watch them for a while - how they behave etc .... and then be closer friends when it feels *right*.
I think you just got too close to her at the stranger/acquaintance phase.
I had a feeling this might blow up... That's why I kept advising you not to talk to her about Aqua guy. It's not just about her chart.
When a third wheel gets involved - It ends bad.. Period. We're just talking about this on the secrecy thread.

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posted April 27, 2012 04:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You guys, Mystic Betty has Pisces Mercury & Neptune's already going through that sign.
Y'all better listen when she speaks up (!)
PLUS she has Aries Sun & Uranus is going through there.
PLUS she has Capricorn Moon & that's where Pluto is.

***** so she's tuned in @ the mo' & will be for some years still *****

(you can listen to me too cos I have p.Aries Sun & p.Pisces Merc )

This has been a Public Service Announcement.

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Betty Boop
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posted April 27, 2012 04:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hahahahahaha LOL @ Mystic Betty!

Those transits scare me actually. I wonder what will happen. It will be some time until they are exact though.. probably over a year!

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hannaramaa
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posted April 27, 2012 05:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
That's not good.
Not because you discounted the astrology.... but because she was a stranger.
You can be friends with someone on a more surface level and watch them for a while - how they behave etc .... and then be closer friends when it feels *right*.
I think you just got too close to her at the stranger/acquaintance phase.
I had a feeling this might blow up... That's why I kept advising you not to talk to her about Aqua guy. It's not just about her chart.
When a third wheel gets involved - It ends bad.. Period. We're just talking about this on the secrecy thread.

No it has nothing to do with Aqua guy really. Just other situations and the way she presents things are always curiously in my favor. Nothing in life works like that you know, it's not realistic but she's stubborn and refuses to acknowledge anything (not that I've outright accused her of lying)

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posted April 27, 2012 06:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi BB, if you ever want me to look at your chart in personal readings lemme know.

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posted April 27, 2012 06:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
AND! AND! She has a Libra moon. I knew it from day one I probably shouldn't trust her but believing in astrology completely like that vs. believing a stranger I just met... well, the stranger in front of me won out i guess. we're friends, but now i'm realizing we shouldn't be THAT close 'cause she isn't straight up.

What does a Libra moon have to do with anything?

One very trustworthy person that I know has that position. While she's much more open than I am, she's not a bad person. We've adjusted in our relationship to where she keeps personal stuff quiet (she's not a blabbermouth exactly; she just doesn't have the same concept of privacy that I do, but we've come to a point of understanding on this one).

Why would a Libra moon be a red flag, just out of curiosity? I honestly hadn't heard that one before, so I'm genuinely asking and am not trying to be argumentative or anything.

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posted April 27, 2012 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What does a Libra moon have to do with anything?

One very trustworthy person that I know has that position. While she's much more open than I am, she's not a bad person. We've adjusted in our relationship to where she keeps personal stuff quiet (she's not a blabbermouth exactly; she just doesn't have the same concept of privacy that I do, but we've come to a point of understanding on this one).

Why would a Libra moon be a red flag, just out of curiosity? I honestly hadn't heard that one before, so I'm genuinely asking and am not trying to be argumentative or anything.


Do I always have to explain I know not every Libra moon is going to be "bad?" Really. I didn't say a Libra moon alone was a red flag. A Cancer ASC, Pisces Sun, with Pisces Mercury AND a Libra moon - is a red flag
because I think it adds to the wishy-washiness of her Pisces nature (by tenfold actually. She's a VERY indecisive person. Can't even pick out where she wants to eat half the time and she's too agreeable.)

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posted April 27, 2012 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnFKennedy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
I just presume everyone's lying. Because that's what people do. Lies make the world go 'round. That is the truth.

Just let whatever they say go in one ear and out the other, and do what you want lol

~Pluto in the 1st


From another Virgo rising/Aquarius moon, this is my life motto right here.

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