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Topic: Sentimentality (in the negative sense) what sign, placements are prone to it?
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sand
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posted May 02, 2012 03:19 AM
  
Sentimentality originally indicated the reliance on feelings as a guide to truth, but current usage defines it as an appeal to shallow, uncomplicated emotions at the expense of reason.IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted May 02, 2012 07:36 AM
^ I feel sentimental about the old usage. I liked it better.IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero
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From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop
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posted May 02, 2012 08:20 AM
I don't really get the 'new' usage. The word will never mean that to me.When I think of the word "sentimental", I tend to think "nostalgia", among other things, such as having a little soft spot for someone/something/a memory, maybe being a little mushy or sappy or overly sweet. I think of someone who's maybe a "softie". I see "an appeal to shallow, uncomplicated emotions at the expense of reason" as "emotional manipulation" rather than "sentimental". IP: Logged |
sand
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posted May 02, 2012 08:20 AM
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Originally posted by Faith:
^ I feel sentimental about the old usage. I liked it better.
^LOL sweetiepie alert!! IP: Logged |
sand
Knowflake Posts: 3675
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posted May 02, 2012 08:24 AM
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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
I don't really get the 'new' usage. The word will never mean that to me.When I think of the word "sentimental", I tend to think "nostalgia", among other things, such as having a little soft spot for someone/something/a memory, maybe being a little mushy or sappy or overly sweet. I think of someone who's maybe a "softie". I see "an appeal to shallow, uncomplicated emotions at the expense of reason" as "emotional manipulation" rather than "sentimental".
Pho got to link as usual.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentimentality IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted May 02, 2012 08:43 AM
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Originally posted by sand:
^LOL sweetiepie alert!!
 I actually agree with what Platero said- the new usage doesn't make sense to me. But whatever...I can be disgustingly sentimental, as evidenced by the fact that... (Oh, this is hard for me, a Capricorn, to admit...) I like Bollywood movies a lot. And ABBA. It's gotta be my Venus conjunct Neptune, square my Pisces moon, square Mars (mutable t-squares.) IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted May 02, 2012 08:51 AM
I think water influence.Moon, Venus, Neptune. I agree with Faith and Regardes, "sentimentality" isn't such a negative term to me and it doesn't necessarily mean shallow emotions. IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted May 02, 2012 08:59 AM
^ Yeah, "shallow emotions" doesn't make any sense, since one can only be sentimental about the past, and holding onto memories over a long period of time shows "deep" attachment to them.IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted May 02, 2012 09:01 AM
I agree with you.  IP: Logged |
Hera
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From: the OR
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 02, 2012 10:52 AM
Hmmm... Well my emotions are rarely, if ever, shallow and especially NOT uncomplicated but I have, on occasions, made emotional decisions, especially as team leader.  Cancer on the 6H, I suppose?IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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From: Saturn-free H12 ;)
Registered: Aug 2010
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posted May 02, 2012 02:06 PM
Cancer/Cappy axis.IP: Logged |
enchantress299
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posted May 02, 2012 07:23 PM
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When I think of the word "sentimental", I tend to think "nostalgia", among other things, such as having a little soft spot for someone/something/a memory, maybe being a little mushy or sappy or overly sweet. I think of someone who's maybe a "softie".I see "an appeal to shallow, uncomplicated emotions at the expense of reason" as "emotional manipulation" rather than "sentimental".
Hmm... Maybe it's because I've seen true sentimentality turned into false gushiness way too often, but yes, I do think that sentimentality can often be an appeal to shallow, uncomplicated emotions at the expense of reason (when it is carried too far). Some people are more sentimental than others (mostly when thinking about the past). I often think that overly sentimental people don't realize that for some people (ie, NOT THEM), once the emotional moment is over it is over. The sentimentality of super emotional people can then TURN INTO manipulation without them fully realizing it. I've known some people who cry at the drop of a hat and they often seem to want to guilt me for not being as emotional about the situation as they are. For me, the moment is over. For them, they continue to live in that moment. To me it's not BAD, it's just the way that they are vs. the way that I am. It turns BAD when they are trying to impose on me that I should also be as emotional as they are about the situation. In my life, I've mostly seen this happen with people who have water signed Moons (which I have a fire signed Moon, so quite a difference there) and Cancer risings or Moons on the Ascendant/1st house. IP: Logged |
MadameButterfly
Newflake Posts: 2
From: Canada
Registered: May 2012
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posted May 02, 2012 11:40 PM
I have Moon and Venus Sq. Neptune (Moon Conj. Venus exact) and I sometimes assign a bit too much meaning to things.. like home objects, various ornaments, stuffed animals etc. (Neptune in 2nd) If it reminds me of my childhood, I regard it fondly. But I've learned to take those feelings and channel them into music and art. Music especially can get me misty eyed over memories..
I've known a couple of Pisces and Lunar Pisces who were similarly sentimental.IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted May 03, 2012 01:41 AM
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Cancer/Cappy axis.
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