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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 31597 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted May 02, 2012 07:21 AM Question for Discussion–The IC By amiann \| Published: May 2, 2012 I am putting this question in this format, so I can send it to the various study groups to which I belong. I can feel out the Sign on the ASC. That is the face one wears in one’s every day interactions.Of course, it is not a mask, but rather a posture of oneself, an outer layer of oneself but a true layer, nonetheless. The Sign on the MC is the face one shows to society.It is the part of ourselves which is front and center when we deal with career .It is the part of us that the general society sees. It could be our CEO face The sign on the DSC is what attracts us. We may not be attracted to that particular sign, itself. However, we would be attracted to the qualities of that sign. The sign on the IC puzzles me. Is it the tone of our childhood home? I was thinking this and this is why I wrote this. Is the sign on the IC the sing we were FORCED to mold ourselves to? I am thinking that this makes sense. If one had Aqua on the IC, then one would have been forced to try to conform to Aqua. Conversely, when one grew up, one would manifest the opposite of Aqua, which is Leo. I would like your input. Any thoughts are welcomed. I don’t need to stick with my theories. They are always up for revision! ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 31597 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted May 02, 2012 07:24 AM Anyone can discuss any angle, too.Please, put forth anything you think or experienced. Thanks! ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
sand Knowflake Posts: 3693 From: Registered: May 2011	posted May 02, 2012 07:25 AM Why would they manifest the opposite quality tho if the IC is what they were molded to become? That's an interesting theory if I am getting it right.. Also do u grow out of it? I mean since it's childhood and all. Or will your home life always be like such. IP: Logged
Rosalind Knowflake Posts: 598 From: Romania-soon-England Registered: Mar 2011	posted May 02, 2012 07:27 AM No, Ami Anne. IC represents your roots, your home and your FAMILY life style. I have Aqua on Nadir and my family life style is/was pretty unsual. Also, IC represents your very end of your life. The life before your death. Your life as an old person. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 31597 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted May 02, 2012 07:33 AM quote: Originally posted by sand: Why would they manifest the opposite quality tho if the IC is what they were molded to become? That's an interesting theory if I am getting it right.. Also do u grow out of it? I mean since it's childhood and all. Or will your home life always be like such. Well, the MC is opposite the IC. You know how kids rebel against their childhood and become the "opposite". I wonder if this IC/MC axis is reflective of that? ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 31597 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted May 02, 2012 07:34 AM quote: Originally posted by Rosalind: No, Ami Anne. IC represents your roots, your home and your FAMILY life style. I have Aqua on Nadir and my family life style is/was pretty unsual. Also, IC represents your very end of your life. The life before your death. Your life as an old person. Ok--so I suppose, as a child, you had to mold to that sign as it was your family's "sign" or the feel of your family. Do you agree? ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
sand Knowflake Posts: 3693 From: Registered: May 2011	posted May 02, 2012 07:42 AM quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Well, the MC is opposite the IC. You know how kids rebel against their childhood and become the "opposite". I wonder if this IC/MC axis is reflective of that? I am a cap IC tho. I shud not rebel LOL! Ok what if you have very late IC. Mine is at 29 Cap. It progressed to aqua when I was just a few months old. Wouldn't that mean my childhood was Aquarian? ..or saturnine? IP: Logged
Rosalind Knowflake Posts: 598 From: Romania-soon-England Registered: Mar 2011	posted May 02, 2012 07:44 AM quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Ok--so I suppose, as a child, you had to mold to that sign as it was your family's "sign" or the feel of your family. Do you agree? No. I was already molded because I was part of that family. People have 2 kinds of family life style. The one where they were born (4th house) and the one who they created with another person (7th house). You cannot mold in the first mentioned because you were born there. You have to mold in the second one. You have to mold in your OWN family life style. My 7th house is on Taurus cusp. Cannot say I am a die hard fan of luxury and stuff but I do want to have a family style in which I can be ME. In your 4th house you have to adapt at that family style while in 7th you are you. IP: Logged
Rosalind Knowflake Posts: 598 From: Romania-soon-England Registered: Mar 2011	posted May 02, 2012 07:47 AM quote: Originally posted by sand: I am a cap IC tho. I shud not rebel LOL! Ok what if you have very late IC. Mine is at 29 Cap. It progressed to aqua when I was just a few months old. Wouldn't that mean my childhood was Aquarian? ..or saturnine? Your childhood remains saturnian FOREVER. No matter at what degree might be. Progressions can bring changes but not permanent ones. Even if a person can feel the changes brought by progressions, his natal chart remains the same until his death. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 31597 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted May 02, 2012 07:50 AM Brilliant point, Rosalind. ADAPT!! Yes, that is the perfect word for the IC .One is forced to adapt to that sign. What would I do without all you creative genius minds ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
sand Knowflake Posts: 3693 From: Registered: May 2011	posted May 02, 2012 08:13 AM quote: Originally posted by Rosalind: [QUOTE]Originally posted by sand: [b] I am a cap IC tho. I shud not rebel LOL! Ok what if you have very late IC. Mine is at 29 Cap. It progressed to aqua when I was just a few months old. Wouldn't that mean my childhood was Aquarian? ..or saturnine? Your childhood remains saturnian FOREVER. No matter at what degree might be. Progressions can bring changes but not permanent ones. Even if a person can feel the changes brought by progressions, his natal chart remains the same until his death.[/B][/QUOTE] But my 4th house is aqua. In placidus. What's the diff between the 2? Cap IC, H4 aqua. Thanks! IP: Logged
Rosalind Knowflake Posts: 598 From: Romania-soon-England Registered: Mar 2011	posted May 02, 2012 08:21 AM quote: Originally posted by sand: But my 4th house is aqua. In placidus. What's the diff between the 2? Cap IC, H4 aqua. Thanks! You IC is your 4th house. It doesnt matter if its ocuppy just a small part of it, the sign of IC is important. Aka Capricorn. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 31597 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted May 02, 2012 08:24 AM Ros Can't the IC be in a different house? Can the MC be in a different house than 10? IP: Logged
sand Knowflake Posts: 3693 From: Registered: May 2011	posted May 02, 2012 08:27 AM quote: Originally posted by Rosalind: You IC is your 4th house. It doesnt matter if its ocuppy just a small part of it, the sign of IC is important. Aka Capricorn. Oops my bad that was equal. Ok ok got it! Thanks a bunch R! IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 31597 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted May 02, 2012 08:48 AM Sand ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 1722 From: Registered: Dec 2010	posted May 02, 2012 09:07 AM See this is what I don't get about house systems. In Placidus my MC is in Capricorn but if I use whole sign/equal then it moves to another sign, Pisces. So where exactly is the "true" MC? The one in Placidus or the one in whole/equal? IP: Logged
Rosalind Knowflake Posts: 598 From: Romania-soon-England Registered: Mar 2011	posted May 02, 2012 09:38 AM quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Ros Can't the IC be in a different house? Can the MC be in a different house than 10? No. The IC cannot be in a different house. Only its ruler. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 31597 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted May 02, 2012 10:55 AM quote: Originally posted by Rosalind: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Ami Anne: [b]Ros Can't the IC be in a different house? Can the MC be in a different house than 10? No. The IC cannot be in a different house. Only its ruler.[/B][/QUOTE] What about the MC? ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Rosalind Knowflake Posts: 598 From: Romania-soon-England Registered: Mar 2011	posted May 02, 2012 10:59 AM quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: What about the MC? The same rule goes for ALL angles. IP: Logged
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 31597 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010	posted May 02, 2012 11:22 AM Ok so the ASC is always in the 1st house IC is always in the 4th etc Do you need a certain House system for this to work like this or will it work in all of them? ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/ IP: Logged
Rosalind Knowflake Posts: 598 From: Romania-soon-England Registered: Mar 2011	posted May 02, 2012 11:25 AM quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Ok so the ASC is always in the 1st house IC is always in the 4th etc Do you need a certain House system for this to work like this or will it work in all of them? I use Placidus. Its the most accurate system. I have worked with all system but Placidus seemed the most accurate of all. IP: Logged
amowls** Knowflake Posts: 1452 From: Registered: Dec 2010	posted May 02, 2012 11:34 AM It actually depends on the house system you use. If you're using equal or whole houses, the MC could be in the 11th or 9th because the 10th house cusp is separate from the MC. Rosalind only uses placidus, which always uses the IC as the 4th house cusp and the MC as the 10th. IP: Logged
peachbeigeblue Knowflake Posts: 204 From: Registered: Apr 2012	posted May 02, 2012 09:39 PM Ahh. My IC is most foreign to me as well. Probably because I have no planets in my 4th house and nothing in Aquarius which is my 4th house ruler. Aquarius is opposite my sun sign so i do have a bit of a blind spot for it. My NN (in Pisces), however, is in my 4th house. I have read about my NN/SN in these specific signs and placements and seem to have a clear idea of my karmic life purpose this life. Rosalind was kind enough to give me a reading as well. You said it was okay to talk about different angles... (maybe I missed the talk about the DC) I have a close conjunction with the moon with my DC (same degree) in taurus. Do you think that this means I am just generally attracted to tauruses or could it also be I look for a relationship perhaps more moon-like in nature than say an overtly sexual one? IP: Logged
sand Knowflake Posts: 3693 From: Registered: May 2011	posted May 03, 2012 02:14 AM If you have every angle conjunct a planet except for the ic does that mean your ic is very stressed? For my chart, I have Pluto on asc, moon on mc, Venus and merc on dc. Nothing on the ic. Whatitmean? They're also mostly ruling planets. The ruler of asc is conjunct it, ruler of mc is conjunct it, ruler of dc is conjunct it. IP: Logged
Lonake Moderator Posts: 7533 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted May 03, 2012 02:52 AM quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Is it the tone of our childhood home? I was thinking this and this is why I wrote this. Is the sign on the IC the sing we were FORCED to mold ourselves to? This was true for me, Libra IC. Pluto in the 4th so, deep down, Libra is not kosher. IP: Logged

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