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Topic: were you ever saturn opposiing someon's venus?
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curiouswoman Knowflake Posts: 1123 From: on earth Registered: Sep 2011
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posted May 02, 2012 11:27 PM
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Moonfish Moderator Posts: 5190 From: Tropical Ocean Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 02, 2012 11:34 PM
I'm currently in a relation where his saturn opposes my venus exact.He's already a shy guy, and this aspect just adds more coldness between us. The strangely good thing about that is I've never really trusted guys that were flirty or too lovey dovey , in fact, i never gave guys like that a chance. To me my bf's shyness means he takes relationships very seriously, which he does. Anyway I think the venus-saturn makes us seem like an old married couple lol. Despite his aloof exterior he's always been there for me when I needed him. IP: Logged |
Hera Knowflake Posts: 8636 From: Olympus Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 02, 2012 11:40 PM
I was both. It's not an easy one. I remember being Saturn with a Gemini Sun/Taurus Venus friend of mine, who had a crush on me for years (he told me after about 5 years or so), but though I liked him as a person and wanted to be able to fall for him, could not, for the life of me, see him that way. He even wrote me poems, absolutely gorgeous, thrilling poems, which is something I always wanted secretely, but nope... I really don't understand from the synastry why he believed I was *IT* for him, and why I wasn't the slightest attracted to him, though he was an attractive guy! We had a Sat opp Venus dw, if I remember well (I'd have to check). This is the unrequitted love aspect. Sometimes comes up in impossible love affairs too. Lots of blockages there. My longest relationship did have this aspect, but I was Venus in it though (and I was the one who broke it - textbook description fit to a T). It's a delicate one, I think. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 12052 From: Wankety Wankerson Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 02, 2012 11:56 PM
I was Saturn squaring her Venus, it was tough,I thought she was the one, and we had an amazing connection, but I don't think she loved me as much as I loved her,circumstances made it hard to be together and she wasn't willing to tough it out and she dumped me, I was severely depressed for a year or more afterwards, still miss her and its been almost 3 years since we last spoke.IP: Logged |
curiouswoman Knowflake Posts: 1123 From: on earth Registered: Sep 2011
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posted May 02, 2012 11:56 PM
Interesting! thank you. any more stories pleaseIP: Logged |
curiouswoman Knowflake Posts: 1123 From: on earth Registered: Sep 2011
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posted May 03, 2012 12:21 AM
aqua! were you in a relationship already when you met her?
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tautomer4314 Knowflake Posts: 659 From: Oregon Registered: Dec 2011
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posted May 03, 2012 01:10 AM
I have twice. I know to avoid heavy cancer influenced guys now. Partly because that energy irks me, and it opposes my uranus neptune and saturn.I completely steamrolled them and got sick of them very very quickly. Too soft. I've notice people with cancer influences are drawn to me. More so in a romantic sense. The two I speak of had their venus trine my moon and pluto and conjunct my mars. However it also opposed my neptune and saturn. So at first it's like "WOW" to them, but as they get to know me, they find I am far too cold. I can't well take cancer's need for emotional validation. Emotion superceeds everything to them, and when I try to show them another perspective they either anger or get scared off. I barely had to lift a finger before I wrote off one of them. I have yet to experience my venus oppose someone's saturn, but I imagine it will be rather unplesasent. ------------------ It's All Elemental ----- My Chart if relevant IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 12052 From: Wankety Wankerson Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 03, 2012 08:26 AM
quote: Originally posted by curiouswoman: aqua! were you in a relationship already when you met her?
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Hera Knowflake Posts: 8636 From: Olympus Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 03, 2012 08:43 AM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: I was Saturn squaring her Venus, it was tough,I thought she was the one, and we had an amazing connection, but I don't think she loved me as much as I loved her,circumstances made it hard to be together and she wasn't willing to tough it out and she dumped me, I was severely depressed for a year or more afterwards, still miss her and its been almost 3 years since we last spoke.
Yeah, it seems to me too that Saturn loves more... Venus is sorta flighty. When I was Venus, I wanted my freedom badly, he wanted to get joined at the hip! I'm usually possessive Tau Venus but when Sat opposes it... hmmmm...
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peachbeigeblue Knowflake Posts: 4084 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted May 03, 2012 08:45 AM
I have this aspect natally. Gemini Venus opp Sagittarius Saturn IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 12052 From: Wankety Wankerson Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 03, 2012 08:48 AM
quote: Originally posted by Hera: Yeah, it seems to me too that Saturn loves more... Venus is sorta flighty. When I was Venus, I wanted my freedom badly, he wanted to get joined at the hip! I'm usually possessive Tau Venus but when Sat opposes it... hmmmm...
*sigh* venus is such a fickle planet.IP: Logged |
Hera Knowflake Posts: 8636 From: Olympus Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 03, 2012 08:55 AM
Awww, sorry Aqua! Yep, have to agree with you. But Saturn is a cold blanket too... Shrugs, relationships are soooo complicated!IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 12052 From: Wankety Wankerson Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 03, 2012 09:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by Hera: Awww, sorry Aqua! Yep, have to agree with you. But Saturn is a cold blanket too... Shrugs, relationships are soooo complicated!
But i wasnt cold with her, i was very demonstrative with her,and made it very clear i was in it for the long haul,but for some reason she felt that i would abandon her ,so because of her insecurities she threw what we had away and she abandoned me,literally.IP: Logged |
Alma Sun Knowflake Posts: 2233 From: The East Coast Registered: Mar 2011
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posted May 03, 2012 09:56 AM
quote: The strangely good thing about that is I've never really trusted guys that were flirty or too lovey dovey , in fact, i never gave guys like that a chance.
I think the exact same way. Something very dodgy about men who flirt incessantly. I have Venus/Saturn natally. Give me someone dependable, and even aloof, any day. curiouswoman, I've never had Venus/Saturn in a romantic relationship, but I have with friendships. I really like it. Even in the opposition & squares. There's a sense they'll always be there for you. And they help you out in tangible ways. I really like what they said here about Venus/Saturn: http://theinnerwheel.com/2010/08/03/synastry-studies-rethinking-venussaturn/ quote: In the words of Liz Green, from her book "Saturn, A New Look at an Old Devil," (one of the greatest books on Saturn)–sorry, I have to paraphrase a bit, because my copy isn't where I am right now–when Saturn sees something it wants, it can act like "the most inflamed Mars." I've remembered that phrase 'like the most inflamed Mars' from the first time I read it. No one thinks of Saturn that way. And yet, in practice, over the years, I've seen him do just that, over and over and over again. Why? The secret of Saturn, and the Saturn/Moon combination, is that Saturn needs. He knows what he has to do, and the clock is ticking. If you have what he needs, he will court you like a lovesick swain. His love is genuine, desperate. Tick tock.What Saturn wants is Venus. All that grace, all that gentility, all that beauty, is a balm to his harsh existence. When Venus touches Saturn, he is no longer the builder, the taskmaster, the responsible one. In Venus's presence he can become the master craftsman, the artist. His work has a purpose beyond the mundane. He can take the raw materials of Venus, her beauty, her desire, and use them to achieve his purpose in an elevated and more gentle manner. Venus encourages him to share his skills and experience. Venus wants to be desired, and she senses his need. Remember that Saturn is exalted in Libra. But Saturn/Venus doesn’t pounce, as Mars/Venus might and Mars/Moon often does. (Mars/Moon is a contact between two primal forces, where Saturn/Venus is much more sophisticated.) Saturn will court. Saturn will spend time. Saturn will feed your cat when you're away and mend your loose wiring and fill your refrigerator on top of it. When you return, Saturn will hold your hand and talk to you through the night and stoically suppress sighs of longing–until one day when you trust him utterly and he’s certain he won’t be rejected, he will pounce. Saturn can wait forever where Venus is concerned. Saturn is desperate for appreciation, and appreciation is what Venus does best. This is always a very sensual tie, no matter what sign it falls in. The earthy, Taurean side of Venus is a natural match for the equally earthy Saturn. And they will want the best of everything for and from one another, and they are both very security-minded planets. With the hard aspects there will be more striving, and more tussling for rewards (internal and external), but the same underlying desire will be there.
------------------ "The snake which cannot cast its skin has to die. As well the minds which are prevented from changing their opinions; they cease to be mind." — Friedrich Nietzsche IP: Logged |
Hera Knowflake Posts: 8636 From: Olympus Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 03, 2012 10:09 AM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: But i wasnt cold with her, i was very demonstrative with her,and made it very clear i was in it for the long haul,but for some reason she felt that i would abandon her ,so because of her insecurities she threw what we had away and she abandoned me,literally.
Uh, I know, I was Saturn too! It's just the whole "let's get serious" is really freaking Venus out, it seems like it's so final, like there is no way out. I don't know about your ex, but I sometimes felt suffocated as Venus, like he gave me no room to breathe. On the other hand, when I was Saturn I was like "nooooo, where are you running to, Venus??? Come back, let's stick together like glue"... Venus doesn't seem to like that, wants to be a social butterfly. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 8223 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted May 04, 2012 03:40 AM
quote: Originally posted by Hera: I was both. It's not an easy one. I remember being Saturn with a Gemini Sun/Taurus Venus friend of mine, who had a crush on me for years (he told me after about 5 years or so), but though I liked him as a person and wanted to be able to fall for him, could not, for the life of me, see him that way. He even wrote me poems, absolutely gorgeous, thrilling poems, which is something I always wanted secretely, but nope... I really don't understand from the synastry why he believed I was *IT* for him, and why I wasn't the slightest attracted to him, though he was an attractive guy! We had a Sat opp Venus dw, if I remember well (I'd have to check). This is the unrequitted love aspect. Sometimes comes up in impossible love affairs too. Lots of blockages there. My longest relationship did have this aspect, but I was Venus in it though (and I was the one who broke it - textbook description fit to a T). It's a delicate one, I think.
In my experience, heavy saturn is always gives unrequited love. Even if its trines and sextiles. Too much saturn is a love killer. Especially, with a DW saturn aspect, no wonder you didnt like him back. Moon-saturn aspects are the worst. Even positive ones are not that great. Learned this from Luc De Jaeger (cosmitec-astrology.com) from a question he answered for me on Yahoo Answers . Yes, I hunted him down, ....and found him! added him haha and he was kind enough to answer one of my questions. p.s. they always say venus square pluto is the unrequited love aspect, what do you think about that one? Is it true?
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Hera Knowflake Posts: 8636 From: Olympus Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 04, 2012 10:11 AM
I personally had Sat/Venus in every unrequitted love story (syn or comp). Had this one with taken guys I've fallen for too. Or in relationships where everything seemed to go against us. I associate it with a lot of struggle to get the relationship started/off the ground. May not always mean unrequitted love, but it puts a lot of breaks and barriers on it, unfortunately. Pluto/Venus IMO is also an aspect of inbalance, but it describes more the situation when one person loves deeply, with all consuming devotion, while the other is more or less detached depending on other aspects. Usually that's Venus person if the aspect is in syn. My personal opinion is that Sat/Ven is most likely to appear in one-sided relationships, Pluto/Ven creates inbalance but not complete lack of interest as does Sat/Ven. IP: Logged |
starmoon Knowflake Posts: 1822 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted May 04, 2012 10:21 AM
my bf and i have saturn/venus opposite at 2 degrees. he is saturn and i am venus. we have been together slightly over a year. i feel he is cold and serious and controlling at times. he wants to be the leader of the relationship. he is also 10 years older than me, so it adds to the seriousness of this aspect and he always feels he is 'right.' from the start it was a serious relationship, with (thankfully) no games. he is very reliable and works hard to make sure we stay on track as a couple. isometimes feel he has an agenda though - like his saturn has a plan for us already laid out and i'm just supposed to go along. from my experience with this aspect my venus feels a little held back and controlled, but knows there is a very reliable partner in the saturn person.IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 8223 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted May 05, 2012 05:20 AM
quote: Originally posted by Hera: I personally had Sat/Venus in every unrequitted love story (syn or comp). Had this one with taken guys I've fallen for too. Or in relationships where everything seemed to go against us. I associate it with a lot of struggle to get the relationship started/off the ground. May not always mean unrequitted love, but it puts a lot of breaks and barriers on it, unfortunately. Pluto/Venus IMO is also an aspect of inbalance, but it describes more the situation when one person loves deeply, with all consuming devotion, while the other is more or less detached depending on other aspects. Usually that's Venus person if the aspect is in syn. My personal opinion is that Sat/Ven is most likely to appear in one-sided relationships, Pluto/Ven creates inbalance but not complete lack of interest as does Sat/Ven.
We've had the same experience then. Totally agree with all of that down to the last detail! IP: Logged |
Hera Knowflake Posts: 8636 From: Olympus Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 05, 2012 10:02 AM
Thank you, RAS! IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 8223 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted May 05, 2012 05:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by Hera: Thank you, RAS!
Just proves how true astrology is ^___^ It can't just be coincidence, my friend. IP: Logged |
Hera Knowflake Posts: 8636 From: Olympus Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 05, 2012 05:44 PM
Yep. It helps to have the confirmation every now and again though. IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 5247 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted September 08, 2016 11:36 PM
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 3287 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted September 09, 2016 06:34 AM
I am experiencing this now with someone that I am seeing.Their Venus(Taurus) opposes my Saturn(Scorpio) widely(7 deg orb).What usually happens here is that Venus wants to throw caution to the wind(even when in Cap)and Saturn is there to say "no don't". And hits the brakes. One way this manifested was when they(Venus) wanted to skip work and stay at home with me for the day. I had to talk them out of it because I thought of the amount of work they'll have to catch up on the following day they return to work. Its the nature of Saturn to just put fun and pleasure at the bottom of the list.And since we also have Saturn/Sun double whammy. He agreed and left. I asked myself why I did this?But then again I think that I cared enough not to have him stress and try to catch up on two day's work. But then, why is it my responsibility to mind his stress levels? Because i care. If anyone knows an alternative way for Saturn to show that they care without "obstructing" Venus, let me know. Coz i dont want to be the "parent" in the relationship. I just want to be able to express affection for another in a tangible,real ,lasting way. IP: Logged |
Elysia Knowflake Posts: 1868 From: Gotham Registered: Aug 2015
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posted September 09, 2016 10:27 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: I am experiencing this now with someone that I am seeing.Their Venus(Taurus) opposes my Saturn(Scorpio) widely(7 deg orb).What usually happens here is that Venus wants to throw caution to the wind(even when in Cap)and Saturn is there to say "no don't". And hits the brakes. One way this manifested was when they(Venus) wanted to skip work and stay at home with me for the day. I had to talk them out of it because I thought of the amount of work they'll have to catch up on the following day they return to work. Its the nature of Saturn to just put fun and pleasure at the bottom of the list.And since we also have Saturn/Sun double whammy. He agreed and left. I asked myself why I did this?But then again I think that I cared enough not to have him stress and try to catch up on two day's work. But then, why is it my responsibility to mind his stress levels? Because i care. If anyone knows an alternative way for Saturn to show that they care without "obstructing" Venus, let me know. Coz i dont want to be the "parent" in the relationship. I just want to be able to express affection for another in a tangible,real ,lasting way.
Yeah, that's sort of my experience, being Venus. IP: Logged | |