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Topic: Jupiter Sextile Pluto
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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted May 08, 2012 02:59 PM
  
My baby boy has this aspect. Well, he's not really a baby anymore. But his Jupiter is in Leo in the 5th House. His Pluto is in Saggi in the 7th House.Part of it is my greedy Capricorn self and my opportunistic Jupiter in Aries. I note that Bill Gates has Jupiter Conjunct Pluto. Should I make this kid my retirement strategy? It's only 14 years before they let him into the casinos at Vegas. 5th House Jupiter. In Leo, no less. Maybe I need to start the poker lessons! IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted May 08, 2012 03:02 PM
First, its not a sextile its a trine. Second what you just said its the most eerie thing I ever read. Why don't you let your kid to fulfill his own destiny?IP: Logged |
Linda Jones
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posted May 08, 2012 03:09 PM
^^ Rosalind, everything YTA said is "tongue in cheek." He doesn't mean it literally. It's just his way of asking about that particular aspect while injecting some humor into his ques. He's actually an adoring, doting Dad to his 2 sons.I think cultural differences led you to take his words literally  IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted May 08, 2012 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by Linda Jones:
^^ Rosalind, everything YTA said is "tongue in cheek." He doesn't mean it literally. It's just his way of asking about that particular aspect while injecting some humor into his ques. He's actually an adoring, doting Dad to his 2 sons.I think cultural differences led you to take his words literally
Maybe. My bad. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted May 08, 2012 03:17 PM
Something's lost in the translation, I suppose.I'm absolutely only kidding. I have no idea what it means and I'm just making fun of myself. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted May 08, 2012 03:19 PM
For whatever it's worth:Credit: http://astrology-numerology.com/aspects-jupiter.html Jupiter trine Pluto The trine between Jupiter and Pluto produces a powerful exuberance in your nature that allows you to inspire others to their potential, as you likewise are able to achieve your own. You have wonderful organizational skills that can be useful, especially in business, education, and public welfare.
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Rosalind
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posted May 08, 2012 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Something's lost in the translation, I suppose.I'm absolutely only kidding. I have no idea what it means and I'm just making fun of myself.
Speaking of which (Jupiter in 5th). I have this placement and I never won a thing. I use to play lottery. I never win. Not to mention that the ruler of 2nd house is in 5th. Again I have bad luck in gambling.
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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted May 08, 2012 03:22 PM
What is curious is that Astro.com calls it a sextile and you call it a trine. Isn't a Trine 120 degrees and a Sextile 60 degrees?IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted May 08, 2012 03:25 PM
Leo and Sagittarius are both Fire signs. When two signs are both in the same element they form a trine. The degrees should be checked.IP: Logged |
Linda Jones
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posted May 08, 2012 03:32 PM
YTA, yeah check the degrees. Whether trine or sextile , it's a very good aspect to have (the sextile may be felt to a lesser degree)Here's a description of the trine from astro.com: (pulled it up from mine as I have it in my natal and I feel it strongly in my life-orb is less than 2). Then combine it with the houses the 2 planets are present in-in my case Jup is in the 9th and Pluto is in the 5th. "You have high standards for your friends as well as for yourself. You want the best, and you are willing to work to make your life better. Usually this aspect indicates a strong sense of morality and ethics. Even while you are young you will try to do whatever is right and honorable in a situation. Your behavior is based on a strong inner sense of right and wrong. Consequently you are not likely to sit by when someone hurts another person. You have the temperament of a reformer, but you are willing to work patiently to bring about reforms. You are perfectly willing to work through any system that will help bring about change. Also you can see how to get people to work together harmoniously, by coordinating everyone's goals and making it possible to achieve them with a united effort." IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted May 08, 2012 07:35 PM
I'm only going by the geometry. It is mathematically impossible for it to be a Trine. The 5th House to the 7th House is geometerically 60 degrees and therefore I have to conclude that it must be a Sextile. Again, I'm applying only mathematics.IP: Logged |
Linda Jones
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posted May 08, 2012 08:22 PM
YTA,Would you mind posting the degrees and minutes for both his Jup in Leo and Pluto in Sag? Thx IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted May 08, 2012 09:20 PM
But it's in the 5th. What's that have to do with money? You would think Jupiter in the 2nd or 8th house would have to do with money. Maybe 10th.I think it's saying he'll absolutely be a casanova, since 5th house is the one about art and love affairs. Pluto in Sagittarius in the 7th house. Pluto in Sagittarius... extremist? Maybe when he controls his impulses he'll find he's luckier? Or learns how to direct them properly? IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted May 08, 2012 09:23 PM
I have the trine in water & I'm a lucky biatch. ------------------
Cap Moon-Pisces Merc-Taurus Venus-Cap Mars conj Neptune-Pisces Jupiter. These are my placements. If you are a friend of mine then you probably know who I am. Please don't post it on LL. If you are unsure - you can email me on the email in my profile. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted May 08, 2012 09:30 PM
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Originally posted by Odette:
I have the trine in water & I'm a lucky biatch.
Water does tend to be lucky though, I think. You trust your intuition and feelings over logic. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted May 08, 2012 10:12 PM
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Originally posted by Linda Jones:
YTA,Would you mind posting the degrees and minutes for both his Jup in Leo and Pluto in Sag? Thx
I'm so very sorry. The Jupiter is in fact in Libra. I confused the sign of Libra for Leo! My misreporting caused confusion. I'm assuming 5th House concerns fun, children and gambling/risk taking. The Jupiter is in Libra in 5th House in 25'43
The Pluto is in Saggi in 7th House in 9'3 It's a Sextile. My apologies. IP: Logged |
Linda Jones
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posted May 08, 2012 10:52 PM
^^ That's what I thought, lol, that you'd misread the signs.But if you note the # of degrees between Libra 25'43 and Sag 9'3, it's a total of 43 deg and 20 min which puts this aspect down to a semi-square (which is 45 degrees) with an orb of 1 degree and 40 min (meaning the aspect is 1 degree 40 min away from being an exact semi-square). Since this is an acceptable orb for a semisquare, you would want to read the interp. for a semi square which would be different than a sextile or trine. Hope this helps  **EDIT**
Despite the signs Libra and Sag being sextile and the 5th and 7th houses being sextile, the actual aspect is a semi-square given the above degrees. IP: Logged |
Linda Jones
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posted May 08, 2012 11:26 PM
Here's the Wikipedia definition of a semisquare:"The semi-square (abrv. SSq) is an angle of 45° (1/2 of a square [90°]). A separation of 45±2° is considered a semisquare. This aspect is considered a weaker version of the square and indicates somewhat difficult circumstance. It is sometimes known as the octile or semiquartile. A semisquare reveals an area of inflexibility. There may be obstacles keeping one from changing and adapting to new or different situations. The semisquare is teaching persistence and patience." Here's another one from Wikipedia: "In astrology, a semi-square is an astrological aspect that two planets make when they are 45° apart from each other. The semi-square is considered to be the 8th harmonic of the chart because it is one-eighth of the 360° circle that the zodiac resides in (i.e., 360 / 8 = 45). The semi-square is considered to be a minor hard aspect because it is thought to cause friction in the native's life and prompt them to take some action to reduce that friction." Since the common theme between 5th and 7th hse is love and relationships, the semisquare is most likely going to play out in his relationships when he grows up. But please keep in mind the following-firstly, this is a minor hard aspect. Secondly, it is between transpersonal (outer) planets. Thirdly, if the overall chart shows enough mutability (planets, angles in mutable signs) then the resistance to the needed change may not even be felt. So I wouldn't worry about it as your own 7th house in Virgo is probably prone to do. IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted May 09, 2012 03:00 AM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
But it's in the 5th. What's that have to do with money? You would think Jupiter in the 2nd or 8th house would have to do with money. Maybe 10th.I think it's saying he'll absolutely be a casanova, since 5th house is the one about art and love affairs. Pluto in Sagittarius in the 7th house. Pluto in Sagittarius... extremist? Maybe when he controls his impulses he'll find he's luckier? Or learns how to direct them properly?
10th house deals with CAREER. 5th house deals with romance, fun, children, gambling and SPECULATION. IP: Logged |
Rosalind
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posted May 09, 2012 03:01 AM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
I'm so very sorry. The Jupiter is in fact in Libra. I confused the sign of Libra for Leo! My misreporting caused confusion. I'm assuming 5th House concerns fun, children and gambling/risk taking. The Jupiter is in Libra in 5th House in 25'43
The Pluto is in Saggi in 7th House in 9'3 It's a Sextile. My apologies.
Now its a sextile. But the orb is too wide. IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted May 09, 2012 03:41 AM
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You trust your intuition and feelings over logic.
I do trust logic a lot actually. But it's a mix of things. I listen to my intuition for sure IP: Logged |
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