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Topic: Singletons
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vickymadness Knowflake Posts: 2025 From: Minnesota Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 09, 2012 04:43 PM
Drop any information you know about singletons here ... I would be grateful, since there is no much about it IP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion Moderator Posts: 1717 From: PA, USA Registered: Apr 2012
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posted May 09, 2012 05:45 PM
Ok! I can tell you a little bit about them. Element: The only planet in a certain element in your chart. E.g., if you are air and water dominant and have a fire Venus, this shows that your love nature can be very distinct and maybe even more passionate than your outward personality would show someone. Quality: According to Bob Marks it is also important if you have a planet that is the only mutable planet in your chart, for example, when all others are fixed and/or cadent. House: The only planet in a house type in your chart. This probably isn't as powerful as the above. E.g., you could have only 1 planet in angular houses which is also a little special. Singletons emphasis the house, usually, where they are placed. For example, if you have H10 Mercury that is a singleton once, twice or even three times over, what you say will be important to the public. The things you say will get you noticed, for better or for worse. You could make a career out of the things you say or be remembered for them, depending on the aspects the planet received. It helps to look at what aspects the singleton planet receives. Note what sign and element it is in. Look to see where the sign's ruling planet is and what aspect it makes also. If the planet ruling the sign of your singleton makes good aspects, like positive ones to the ASC and/or MC, you will have an easier time incorporating the singleton planet into your life. I see singleton planets as special but you should be aware that it is important not to let them override your life. They can place too much emphasis on one area. Singleton Saturn in the 10th I imagine, could make one a workaholic and so obsessed with achieving status in the career that it could be detrimental to the person in the end if they did not master Saturn's energy. I hope this helped a little bit. We can talk more if you want. ------------------ "Perfect love casts out fear." -Anthony de Mello IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 10270 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted May 10, 2012 01:24 AM
Y is the mutable important according bob marks? Or did he just mean the elements in general.I only have Uranus in sag as only mutable. I think the "truer" singletons r the ones by element. With the houses do u think it makes on more say mutable in the area the house rules? My mutable singleton is in h2. My Uranus makes no aspects. Unless moon's orb is wider then I have a loose trine to moon. Ok Jupiter rules the sign of my saggi singleton. It's in house 3. Retro. Trine sun and Venus. Sextile Saturn. Conj POF. What do u think sweetscorpion? IP: Logged |
RedScorp Knowflake Posts: 4934 From: The Sun Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 10, 2012 01:30 AM
Ya I see elemental singletons more active than house or quality singletons. As far as I know, singletons can become focal points of the personality. I read that they can "funnel energy" of the chart, though I dunno about that. Personally, I have Mars in Leo as a fire singleton!! IP: Logged |
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posted May 10, 2012 01:30 AM
Whatchu talkin bout Willis? Google has tons of info re: singletons within & outwith astrologyIP: Logged |
vickymadness Knowflake Posts: 2025 From: Minnesota Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 10, 2012 08:43 AM
quote: Originally posted by sweet-scorpion: Ok! I can tell you a little bit about them. Element: The only planet in a certain element in your chart. E.g., if you are air and water dominant and have a fire Venus, this shows that your love nature can be very distinct and maybe even more passionate than your outward personality would show someone. Quality: According to Bob Marks it is also important if you have a planet that is the only mutable planet in your chart, for example, when all others are fixed and/or cadent. House: The only planet in a house type in your chart. This probably isn't as powerful as the above. E.g., you could have only 1 planet in angular houses which is also a little special. Singletons emphasis the house, usually, where they are placed. For example, if you have H10 Mercury that is a singleton once, twice or even three times over, what you say will be important to the public. The things you say will get you noticed, for better or for worse. You could make a career out of the things you say or be remembered for them, depending on the aspects the planet received. It helps to look at what aspects the singleton planet receives. Note what sign and element it is in. Look to see where the sign's ruling planet is and what aspect it makes also. If the planet ruling the sign of your singleton makes good aspects, like positive ones to the ASC and/or MC, you will have an easier time incorporating the singleton planet into your life. I see singleton planets as special but you should be aware that it is important not to let them override your life. They can place too much emphasis on one area. Singleton Saturn in the 10th I imagine, could make one a workaholic and so obsessed with achieving status in the career that it could be detrimental to the person in the end if they did not master Saturn's energy. I hope this helped a little bit. We can talk more if you want.
Thanks , that was informative what about pluto singleton conjuncting MC ? and pluto is aspecting : mercury(semi-square) Neptune (sextile) ASC (Square) pluto in scorp IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 7749 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted May 10, 2012 08:53 AM
quote: If the planet ruling the sign of your singleton makes good aspects, like positive ones to the ASC and/or MC, you will have an easier time incorporating the singleton planet into your life.
No wonder I'm such a flop of a Capricorn. Singleton Cap sun squares Jupiter in Aries exactly and Pluto in Libra (5* orb). Quincunx my Leo ASC. IP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion Moderator Posts: 1717 From: PA, USA Registered: Apr 2012
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posted May 10, 2012 09:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by sand: Y is the mutable important according bob marks? Or did he just mean the elements in general.I only have Uranus in sag as only mutable. I think the "truer" singletons r the ones by element. With the houses do u think it makes on more say mutable in the area the house rules? My mutable singleton is in h2. My Uranus makes no aspects. Unless moon's orb is wider then I have a loose trine to moon. Ok Jupiter rules the sign of my saggi singleton. It's in house 3. Retro. Trine sun and Venus. Sextile Saturn. Conj POF. What do u think sweetscorpion?
1. I suppose it's less important than if you only had a planet in a single, unique element versus having only one mutable planet? Mutable itself isn't important alone, I just used that as one example. 2. I agree with you Sand. I don't place a ton of emphasis on the qualities versus the elements. Element singletons are MUCH more important. 3. "With the houses do u think it makes on more say mutable in the area the house rules? My mutable singleton is in h2." Can you rephrase this? Sorry, not sure what this means. :') 4. In general having a singleton in House 2 means that House 2 will definitely be emphasized by that planet in some way in life. This means with H2 that your H2 matters could have a neat emphasis from your singleton planet. Maybe having your only mutable planet in H2 means you are more flexible and adventurous concerning finances and personal things you offer to the world. It highly depends also on the planet involved. E.g., *mutable* singleton Uranus in Sagittarius in H2 would make you extremely open-minded to areas in life which are Taurean like finances and material stability, maybe. 5. Un-aspected Uranus is very cool I think. Planets receiving zero major aspects are quite unique and add an extra flair to the chart. I think this allows the planet to act totally on its own without being helped OR hindered by another planetary body, but this can lead for it to either give us incredible anxieties with what it dictates in life, or it can overshadow and overpower us, making us obsessed with fulfilling its duties. I have a peregrine Sun and I have felt both frustrated and obsessed with my career since it is in H10. So the house the un-aspected planet in is important too. 6. Hmmm.. so if the ruler of your singleton planet is in House 3, this could mean that you'll have an easier time integrating it into your life through the cerebral, mercurial, the cool and communicative. Maybe structuring the singleton's energy in these areas could give it a real outlet for expression so it does not overshadow the chart. Having H3 Jupiter may make you more optimistic about life and less inclined to having depression when things go wrong, since the Sagittarius outlook can lift the spirits more easily than another sign here in this house of the mind. But at the same time it's retro, so this means that you could have some hesitance about allowing yourself to expand in fear of rejection from other people, OR it could mean that you take too much responsibility to build your own opportunities and luck. Maybe you don't take the helping hand often enough? Just a guess though. I hope this helped! ------------------ "Perfect love casts out fear." -Anthony de Mello IP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion Moderator Posts: 1717 From: PA, USA Registered: Apr 2012
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posted May 10, 2012 09:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: No wonder I'm such a flop of a Capricorn. Singleton Cap sun squares Jupiter in Aries exactly and Pluto in Libra (5* orb). Quincunx my Leo ASC. Edit several hours later, as I checked the thread for new posts: You know, I wrote this half-laughing but it seems so serious now. Guess I am a TRUE Cap after all, with the grave tone.
Wait, so then how is your Saturn in the chart if you are a singleton Capricorn Sun? Where is it located and is it afflicted or harmoniously aspected? Does it touch the ASC and/or MC at all? Maybe IC? Just curious. Also, it's OK to have some negative aspects to the singleton sun. I actually have a singleton sun without ANY aspects and this is like a double-whammy for me. Even less guidance and even more incidences of obsession with the career and identity issues in life. ------------------ "Perfect love casts out fear." -Anthony de Mello IP: Logged |
vickymadness Knowflake Posts: 2025 From: Minnesota Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 11, 2012 03:44 AM
for sweetscorpio ... My singleton is the only planet in water, and only in scorpio and the only in 10th ... Does that emphasize its effect ? And I'll try interpreting this and correct me if I'm wrong ... Am so not good in this though so since my career is emphasized by pluto does that mean I'll experience powerstruggle and I'll become obssesed in controlling my career's destiney ? pluto affecting your public image , does that mean a bad reputation ??I would be grateful if someone interpreted a pluto singleton in the10th house ... Cause I have been through many things in the 2 last years in college that I think pluto is the reason IP: Logged |
vickymadness Knowflake Posts: 2025 From: Minnesota Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 11, 2012 11:36 AM
Rise up IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 9724 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 11, 2012 01:39 PM
I have a jupiter in leo singleton in the sixth house,and a pluto in scorpio singleton in the 9th. however im not too sure about them,i dont quiet believe it makes those 2 planets of great importance because they are the only ones in fire and water,so im suddenly fireball because i have jupiter in leo? I dont buy it. To me it simply means i am deficient in fire and water.IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 7029 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted May 11, 2012 01:49 PM
My single planet is Jupiter. It is in the 2nd House in Aries. It is my only Fire planet. I have nothing in Leo or Sagittarius. Jupiter Trines MC. Whatever that means.I also have single Moon in Gemini in 3rd House. For whatever its worth. IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 10270 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted May 12, 2012 01:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by sweet-scorpion: 1. I suppose it's less important than if you only had a planet in a single, unique element versus having only one mutable planet? Mutable itself isn't important alone, I just used that as one example. 2. I agree with you Sand. I don't place a ton of emphasis on the qualities versus the elements. Element singletons are MUCH more important. 3. "With the houses do u think it makes on more say mutable in the area the house rules? My mutable singleton is in h2." Can you rephrase this? Sorry, not sure what this means. :') 4. In general having a singleton in House 2 means that House 2 will definitely be emphasized by that planet in some way in life. This means with H2 that your H2 matters could have a neat emphasis from your singleton planet. Maybe having your only mutable planet in H2 means you are more flexible and adventurous concerning finances and personal things you offer to the world. It highly depends also on the planet involved. E.g., *mutable* singleton Uranus in Sagittarius in H2 would make you extremely open-minded to areas in life which are Taurean like finances and material stability, maybe. 5. Un-aspected Uranus is very cool I think. Planets receiving zero major aspects are quite unique and add an extra flair to the chart. I think this allows the planet to act totally on its own without being helped OR hindered by another planetary body, but this can lead for it to either give us incredible anxieties with what it dictates in life, or it can overshadow and overpower us, making us obsessed with fulfilling its duties. I have a peregrine Sun and I have felt both frustrated and obsessed with my career since it is in H10. So the house the un-aspected planet in is important too. 6. Hmmm.. so if the ruler of your singleton planet is in House 3, this could mean that you'll have an easier time integrating it into your life through the cerebral, mercurial, the cool and communicative. Maybe structuring the singleton's energy in these areas could give it a real outlet for expression so it does not overshadow the chart. Having H3 Jupiter may make you more optimistic about life and less inclined to having depression when things go wrong, since the Sagittarius outlook can lift the spirits more easily than another sign here in this house of the mind. But at the same time it's retro, so this means that you could have some hesitance about allowing yourself to expand in fear of rejection from other people, OR it could mean that you take too much responsibility to build your own opportunities and luck. Maybe you don't take the helping hand often enough? Just a guess though. I hope this helped!
Cool! Thanks for all of that! U know a lot of stuffs lol! U answered number 3 in number 4. Basically I was asking if a mutable singleton made one more flexible in h2 matters. Pretty spot on as all those can apply to me somehow.. IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 10270 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted May 12, 2012 01:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: I have a jupiter in leo singleton in the sixth house,and a pluto in scorpio singleton in the 9th. however im not too sure about them,i dont quiet believe it makes those 2 planets of great importance because they are the only ones in fire and water,so im suddenly fireball because i have jupiter in leo? I dont buy it. To me it simply means i am deficient in fire and water.
What if u express them more but are not necessarily stronger unless Pluto and leo are also ur dominants? IP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion Moderator Posts: 1717 From: PA, USA Registered: Apr 2012
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posted May 12, 2012 01:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by sand: Cool! Thanks for all of that! U know a lot of stuffs lol! U answered number 3 in number 4. Basically I was asking if a mutable singleton made one more flexible in h2 matters. Pretty spot on as all those can apply to me somehow..
Awesome! And thank you for the compliment. I'm glad I could help you out Sand! IP: Logged |
Maelstrom Knowflake Posts: 437 From: Rule Britannia Registered: Oct 2012
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posted December 31, 2012 12:59 PM
I have never looked into Singletons before and thanks to someone mentioning it elsewhere on this site I found this thread.I have two singletons, Pluto in Air and Neptune in Fire. I really relate to the following description of a Pluto singleton; "One thing that seems to stand out about people with Pluto singletons in the natal chart is that they tend to be catalysts. They can touch your life and even if you make no impression on them, they change you or you are changed by contact with them or their ideas."(Astrologyclub.org) - I have had this said to me by more than a few people that I have encountered over my lifetime. This is a link to the rest of the site, it gives detailed descriptions for each planet as a singleton http://www.astrologyclub.org/ IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 9724 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted July 18, 2014 06:06 AM
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meissieri Knowflake Posts: 1127 From: The Netherlands Registered: Feb 2013
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posted July 18, 2014 07:14 AM
Ahh, singletons!Lol Faith, I swear, we must've been twins in a past life or something. My Sun's a singleton, too, and also not off well with aspects. Though I do have minor aspects from the Moon and Venus (biquintile and decile, if the latter even counts). Leo Sun is my only planet in fire, so no dispositor or other house to help me out here. Big lion's doing it all on his own. What probably doesn't help is that it's on the SN, so this obsession with fitting in, thinking of the group and putting them first is also the easiest way to go for me. It's natural. But also wanting approval from said group. I remember even as a kid I'd stop watching a TV show if everyone else hated it and made fun of it. Or hid any quirk interests - with H11 emphasised & Aqua NN, I always have at least one of them, though also more common interests of course! Finding the internet and online communities was like getting a gift from heaven. How strong of an influence it is? Douxie once said she senses a strong air vibe in me (I think) and others have, too, here, so that must be it. I don't know if I come off as more Leo or Aquarius. Maybe both? Like the H11 influence cools down the Leo? Idk... you guys probably see this much better than I do. (Lol, here I go again!) IP: Logged |
MagnumJoe Knowflake Posts: 268 From: Cairo, Egypt Registered: Apr 2011
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posted July 18, 2014 07:23 AM
Quite interesting!My mars is an air singleton in libra, in the 10th house. What does that mean then? IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 7749 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 18, 2014 10:41 AM
quote: Originally posted by sweet-scorpion: Wait, so then how is your Saturn in the chart if you are a singleton Capricorn Sun? Where is it located and is it afflicted or harmoniously aspected? Does it touch the ASC and/or MC at all? Maybe IC? Just curious.
Oh wow...let me just answer your questions now, two years late!! 6H Cap sun in mutual reception with 12H Leo Saturn. They are quindecile, 165 degrees apart. Saturn might be widely conjunct my Leo ASC, my birth time isn't official, just word of mouth. 0 Leo Saturn 10 Leo ASC (approx) ETA: Strangely, my sun-Saturn MP is conjunct my father's sun. quote: Originally posted by sweet-scorpion: Also, it's OK to have some negative aspects to the singleton sun. I actually have a singleton sun without ANY aspects and this is like a double-whammy for me. Even less guidance and even more incidences of obsession with the career and identity issues in life.
Holy cow, that is intense. But you appear to do very well with it, being so articulate and socially graceful. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 7749 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 18, 2014 10:55 AM
@RieYes, it's weird! I even have a similar thing going on with my SN. It's in the 10H, which makes it harder to be a *real* Capricorn. Maybe having my sun and Saturn in mutual reception means that I always will be joined at the hip with Leos? Honestly, all my life I have been close to one Leo or another, or several. Everything you wondered about makes sense, and I would think that way, too. But of course I have no answers...all I can say is, you have my empathy. Singleton sun is a hard calling. IP: Logged |
deptic Knowflake Posts: 97 From: Earth, Raised on Pluto Registered: Jun 2014
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posted July 18, 2014 11:35 AM
So which one of these is a singleton?
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I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 8021 From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron) Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 18, 2014 11:35 AM
quote: Originally posted by vickymadness: Drop any information you know about singletons here ... I would be grateful, since there is no much about it
Here you are: http://astrologyclub.org/sun-singleton/
quote: Originally posted by deptic: So which one of these is a singleton?
Moon - air singleton Venus - water singleton and the only planet in a fixed house ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
deptic Knowflake Posts: 97 From: Earth, Raised on Pluto Registered: Jun 2014
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posted July 18, 2014 04:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: Moon - air singleton Venus - water singleton and the only planet in a fixed house
actually my venus is in cap :/ u mean saturn ? IP: Logged |