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Taineberry
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posted May 10, 2012 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has anyone had any experience of Saturn conjunct South Node in synastry? I have it ... in a double whammy. His saturn conjuncts my south node (orb 1 degree) and my saturn conjuncts his south node (orb 3 degrees).

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posted May 10, 2012 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Mum`s Saturn conjuncts my Dad`s SN exactly.
You know how long they`ve been married.

I myself share this with someone I don`t even know (DW of Saturn conjunct SN, 5 degrees and 0 degrees).
He refused to leave my dreams alone (well not every night, but now and then).


Richard Burton and Liz Taylor had it (her Saturn conjunct his SN - I wonder why it is always the woman`s Saturn?), and I am sure we`ve all read how utterly impossible it was for them to stay away from each other, though they obviously couldnīt live with each other either.


Diego Rivera and Frida Kahlo had SAturn conjunct NN - and these as well, despite a very volatile relationship, couldnīt separate either (and they tried!)

Johnny Cash and June Carter had her Saturn exactly square his nodal axis (so being on its midpoint).


Laurence Olivier and Vivien Leigh also had a Saturn-NN-conjunction. They DID eventually separate, but somehow not really (somehow it seems that it is a bit easier to separate with Saturn/NN than with Saturn/SN for some readon, but even then, people do not really get away from each other, even if it is just in the form of the affect they had on each other. It seems to me like a very sticky glue, close to impossible to break at least on a soul level, even though you may want to break it SO MUCH).


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posted May 10, 2012 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceri ... yes, I would describe it exactly like that. There is such a strong karmic pull. It was almost as if circumstances made it impossible to miss each other.

Our paths had crossed even before I was 10 years old. I went to play in a tennis tournament and did not have a partner for mixed doubles, so they put me with a guy that I did not know from another club in a different area .... and I found out years later that it was my husband I had been teamed up with.

When I was 12, I crossed paths with my husband's best friend whilst on holiday. His friend and I were just acquaintances, but we remained so during my teens. Eventually, it was this friend who introduced me to my husband, who clicked with me instantly.

After that we started dating. Our relationship was stormy, but we were strongly bound. Even when we broke up we found it impossible to avoid each other and somehow ended up at the same parties and in the same places. So we eventually hooked up again and got married. I always have had the feeling that I owe him something, and I think he feels that about me too. Our sense of responsibility is huge.

I have done some past life regression, and if what I have seen is true, then it would appear that we have some heavy karmic obligations to pay back to one another before the debts are released - payment that can only be made through learning to love in the face of rigorous and tough life lessons.

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posted May 11, 2012 03:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Taineberry:
payment that can only be made through learning to love in the face of rigorous and tough life lessons.

I think that is a very beautiful and perfect interpretation of Saturn/SN conjunction.

also, it is an amazing story, and definitely a karmic one. Yes. It is just stunning how the universe insists on bringing certain people together by making their path cross again and again, until they "get it".

My parents families actually had been living close to each other in what is today Poland, without ever crossing paths.
then, when they had been dislodged after second world war, they somehow ended up in villages just about 20 kilometres from each other, where they eventually met.
That had been hundreds (maybe even thousand?) miles from where they originated from.

They never broke up, but i know that after my mum fell into depression after giving birth to my brother with Down syndrom and somehow thought she was "guilty" and incapable of coping with that at first, my father said that if she stopped that spiral, he would leave her and take both children (me and my brother) with him.
it sounds cruel, but it was what she needed. In a way he showed her this way that she wasnīt guilty and that he wouldnīt leave BECAUSE she had given birth to a child with special needs, but instead loved both his children so much and wanting to care for them, that he would even leave her.
honestly spoken, I donīt think he would ever have done that. lol
But his "trick" worked somehow. I think it glued them even tighter to each other.

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posted June 24, 2013 03:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic Melody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks everyone

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posted June 24, 2013 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lisalisa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
who feels it more, the saturn person or the south node person

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posted June 25, 2013 07:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about saturn opposite SN? I have a saturn conjunct NN double whammy with my boyfriend...

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I have. My ex and I had this tight. I was South Node, he was Saturn.

The relationship started out beautifully and it felt very fated and unavoidable that we should meet.

It degenerated into dysfunction and it was a horribly scarring and unforgettable experience (in a mostly bad way).

It definitely changed me, but not in a good way, I'm afraid.

If I could go back in time and un-meet him, I would.

I have to assume my karmic lesson was to learn how to walk away when I'm being treated poorly.

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
It seems to me like a very sticky glue, close to impossible to break at least on a soul level, even though you may want to break it SO MUCH).


I would agree with this.

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posted June 25, 2013 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lisalisa:
who feels it more, the saturn person or the south node person

I have it both ways, so it is hard to tell from personal experience, but I think it goes something like this......

The south node person will elicit a response of indebtedness from the saturn person that can manifest in different ways. In some cases, the saturn person might take responsibility for the sn person, and be a mentor or a guide which is very comfortable but eventually could prove to be quite restricting. Also saturn could find that having to be forever doing all the "adult things" for the sn person becomes a burden. In a worse case scenario, saturn could could act out their feelings of responsibility in an authoritarian and controlling manner, trying to entrap SN into a dependency relationship and acting abusively to enforce their dominance - which is ultimately very bad for SN and holds them back from growth, but is also bad for saturn person as their desperation to "keep" SN person under control is very draining. Finally, it could be the SN person who WANTS to cling on to saturn for security and safety, inventing all sorts of reasons to make saturn feel a kind of obligation towards them, while saturn gradually builds up more and more defenses against this, becoming cold and inaccessible, even though continuing to do their duty.

The bond is strong on both sides and it will lead to stress unless SN person makes a conscious effort to not become overwhelmed by saturn, and saturn person also masters their own fears of losing the SN person or the control they have over them.

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posted June 25, 2013 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ann7:
What about saturn opposite SN? I have a saturn conjunct NN double whammy with my boyfriend...

Wow, this could be quite tough as it means mastering saturn issues for growth, but potentially could be very rewarding with destiny and a feeling of mutual responsiblity towards one another becoming entwined. But it also could go horribly wrong ..... Don't let fears and insecurities lead to you imposing too many controls over one another.

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posted June 25, 2013 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the square with fishy, I'm Saturn he is sn.

We have worked together 9 yrs or so.. Barely speaking,
But once we did talk it was like bam.
Honestly I always watched him, I had an urge to touch him, but never did...

I notice we have a lot of "coincidences"
We both started the company at the same age, just different locations, he left to another area, then came back.
I applied for a different location, but was asked to move to this location.

His dads name is my x husbands name
His bro name is my sons name
Our kids are born 1 day apart.
The school he went to, is my last name (uncommon)
The list goes on and on..

We totally mirror each other.
Today we ran into each other in the hall, we came face to face, we both moved to the side, so the other can get by,.
Only I went right, he went left, which is the same direction when facing each other, then I went left and he went right, then I went right, he went left...
I go what you want to dance!!!
We both laughed.
No matter what, It seems like a higher power pulling us back near each other , feels very karmic...

A friend of mine does karmic astrology, he said Saturn/sn square
Means, that in a past life I somehow wronged him, it's my obligation to make things better.. To make up for it.
Something like that... I don't remember exactly.

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posted October 23, 2013 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Taineberry:
I have it both ways, so it is hard to tell from personal experience, but I think it goes something like this......

The south node person will elicit a response of indebtedness from the saturn person that can manifest in different ways. In some cases, the saturn person might take responsibility for the sn person, and be a mentor or a guide which is very comfortable but eventually could prove to be quite restricting. Also saturn could find that having to be forever doing all the "adult things" for the sn person becomes a burden. In a worse case scenario, saturn could could act out their feelings of responsibility in an authoritarian and controlling manner, trying to entrap SN into a dependency relationship and acting abusively to enforce their dominance - which is ultimately very bad for SN and holds them back from growth, but is also bad for saturn person as their desperation to "keep" SN person under control is very draining. Finally, it could be the SN person who WANTS to cling on to saturn for security and safety, inventing all sorts of reasons to make saturn feel a kind of obligation towards them, while saturn gradually builds up more and more defenses against this, becoming cold and inaccessible, even though continuing to do their duty.

The bond is strong on both sides and it will lead to stress unless SN person makes a conscious effort to not become overwhelmed by saturn, and saturn person also masters their own fears of losing the SN person or the control they have over them.


Wow, spot on! But it's reversed for us. I'm Saturn and he's SN, but he's the one doing the 'taking care of you/adult' role instead. Yikes :[ .. I'm working on paying him back though even though we're not really together - we still live together + are best friends.

And yes I cannot let him go..I have tried very hard -sigh-

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posted November 25, 2013 03:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 8ofHearts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just had this. Met someone quite randomly a few weeks ago right after one of the eclipses. We just happened to both be at a resort in a very out of the way place in the middle of the desert for a short period of hours (I got butterflies in my stomach & got this wild hair to drive out to see a casual friend play some music.) He passed by me eating alone & made a beeline for me, came back to find me at the bar. We ended up being together all night!

That night Sun & Saturn were conjunct our mutual Venus, Saturn was (conjunct his own Saturn exactly) right on my Moon & Venus midpoint all trining Jupiter. Venus was conjunct our mutual North Nodes & the transiting north node was conj my Eros & Moon and his Pallas/Mercury.
Moon was conjunct Juno, Eros & Vesta were conj My ASC, sextiling his Sun & Uranus and on and on and on...

We are 19 years apart. North Nodes conjunct at 2&6 Cap. ( My saturn is conjunct my own South Node also.) We have a lot of Jupiter connections in synastry and composite but I was really shocked since I just met someone else I really quite liked. I really had no intention of hooking up with this guy!

Our Venus are exactly conjunct at 18 Scorpio. His Saturn is right on top of my Moon/Venus midpoint in Scorpio.
Eros parallel Eros
Psyche parallel Psyche

He's a Scorpio with Moon in Libra
I'm a Libra with Moon in Scorpio

His Mercury & Pallas conj My Scorpio Moon.
His Neptune conj My Mercury.
his Juno conj My Sun/Moon midpoint

It's so eerie the connection do not know WHAT to make of it. It was one of the most intense connections I have ever experienced - no doubt we have "known" each other before. We live in different states but he has been in touch about visiting to see me. I have no idea what to make of it is the most bizarre thing.

Oh, his last name is my first! ha ha

I have also heard that the Saturn/Node thing can be separative. Don't know what It means for me personally since I have it natally. Ugh.

I just recently connected with one other person (younger) who's node is conjunct My ASC and has so many asteroid/karma connections with me it's crazy. But not so heavy on the Saturn. Every time we see each other it's right after all these eclipses.

Hmm... Seems like it's fate/karma time! I have no idea what will actually come to pass but the Universe never ceases to amaze. It really is not up to us sometimes...


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posted November 25, 2013 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sc0rpioRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have saturn conjunct southnode in synastry with someone, but its contra-parallel. does that still count? I also have south node square saturn at 3°orb with the same person.

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posted November 25, 2013 05:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Ręve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn square the Nodes is like... hardcore glue, IME. Hahaha.


Dunno about SN/Saturn.
Had Saturn/NN with someone and there was nothing there.

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posted November 25, 2013 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I heard a favorite writer once say 'the most interesting thing of a relationship is The-End/the-separation' and I so agree with that.
This was the most painful separation of my intimate relationship life which colored every further thought of what 'was' or what we had. This to underline the power of a The-End which can be so devastating that any room to reconcile has been ripped out with heart & mind forever.
Reality has proven me that I'm FINALLY pretty capable of staying friends after a break-up. NOT in this case. There will never be any reconciliation as long as I live, sure of it.
His Saturn was within 2* conjunct my SN and square my Moon (4), conj. my Sun (5) and opp. my Mars (7). He had Sun/Moon/Merc/Mars in Aqua... not a very fitting stellium for my own Sun/Asc./Moon/Venus/Merc.

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posted November 25, 2013 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Taineberry:

After that we started dating. Our relationship was stormy, but we were strongly bound. Even when we broke up we found it impossible to avoid each other
Our sense of responsibility is huge.

payment that can only be made through learning to love in the face of rigorous and tough life lessons.


Yes, like this. My SN conjuncts my husband's Saturn by less than 1 degree. His NN conjuncts my DC, also by 1 degree.

It's been similar to what you described.
We do have a deep love for each other, though.

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posted October 04, 2015 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump....
Just met someone, his Saturn on my SN by minutes, his Venus in NN exact.
My Sun-Merc square his NN
Moon sextile Moon
Moon sextile Venus
Moon conjunct Mars exact
We only have 1 square, Mars square Pluto
No oppositions....

His Eros exact in my Eros/Valentine
His Psyche conjunct my Psyche
His Amor on my DC
My Amor on his NN
We have Isis/Osiris trine 1.5 degree
Horus/Hathor exact conjunct
Jupiter/Themis exact conjunct
Plus many others....

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posted October 04, 2015 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn is Limit, Obstacle, Harshness, and Cold Planet.

Man Rahu (North Node) falls on Women Saturn or Women Rahu (North Node) falls on Man Saturn: This is very difficult synastry match because Saturn is obstacle, harshness, discipline, resentment, control detachment and coldness. Rahu/North Node amplify all these Saturn energy it create problem in long term relationship. This combination is not good for long term relationship.


Women Ketu (South Node) falls on Man Saturn or Man Ketu (South Node) falls on Women Saturn: This is good synastry match because this combination diminishes the Saturn things. It resolves the past Saturn karma it resolve the Saturn problems. This is good for long term it become smoother with time. Initial the person feels detachment in relation but with time Saturn difficulties is gone. This combination is good for partner relationship or husband wife.
http://wantastro.blogspot.com/2014/02/husband-wife-partner-karmic-relationship-synastry-rahu-and-ketu-in-astrology.html?m=1

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posted October 04, 2015 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me and my husband have SN conj Saturn DW. My Taurus SN 9H conj his Saturn and my Leo Saturn 11H conj his SN.

We are glue personified. We have our issues but I know to the bottom of my heart that whatever happens we will always be in each others lives!

My vertex is also conjunct his NN.

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posted October 04, 2015 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have my SN in Libra conjuncting all the people born in 81. One is my brother. He is 5 years older than me. When we were teens we had a very close relationship. Until he got married to a stupid woman and we started to grow apart.

Lover? Yes. There was one once. I was very attracted to him but I did not love him. We had Venus conjunct SN, Saturn conjunct SN and Moon conjunct NN. He was my husband in a past life. He was a doctor and I was his assistant. Apparently back then I loved him dearly but he did not. Long story short? I was attracted to him for like two years in this lifetime. I think I still am but we will never be together because we share different paths and different directions in life. Also, because I don't love him I cannot be with him. Still gorgeous the guy and plays the piano like a god.

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posted October 04, 2015 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving to Interpersonal Astrology.

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