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extant_pisces
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posted May 11, 2012 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for extant_pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...like so many other Pisces men, I hear (a CEO, I mean). Anyway, you've probably heard that JP Morgan Chase just projected their loss at ~$2.3-2.4 billion today. So yeah, a really smooth move by yet another recipient of the US taxpayer-funded 2008 bailout, due to a "flawed" and "poorly executed" strategy in addition to "errors, sloppiness, and bad judgment".

Read the WSJ's excellent compendium of Dimon's best apologies here to get the full Piscean flavor of that "We're only human" sentiment. Choice bits include:

On why this won't happen again: – “So, number one, we’re going to manage it to maximize the economic value for shareholders. What does that mean? It means that we’re not going to do something stupid.”

To Bank of America analyst Guy Moszkowski, who Dimon apparently met with this week – “I apologize. When you were here, I knew you were here and I didn’t have – obviously I couldn’t tell you about this and, of course, I feel terrible about that.” (Moszkowski said on the call it was okay.)

On press coverage of the London Whale before today – “I also think we acted a little too defensively to that.”

Full story here

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted May 11, 2012 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
March 13, 1956. New York, NY. Time unknown.

Sun Pisces 22.52
Moon Aries 3.51
Mercury Pisces 3.11
Venus Taurus 6.20
Mars Capricorn 8.56
Jupiter Leo 23.21 R
Saturn Sagittarius 2.48 R
Uranus Cancer 28.26 R
Neptune Libra 29.58 R
Pluto Leo 26.44 R
Asc node Sagittarius 11.48

Jamie sits in the building across the street from me. Literally.

He knew exactly what he was doing. He created the "hedging" strategy. He evn had the proprietary trader Macris do it out of London to skirt Dodd-Frank and the Volcker rule.

So did Ina Drew, his Chief Investment Officer. Yes, she's a 55 year old woman and she has been his right hand treasury chief for a long time.

Read this article in mid-April in Treasury and Risk Magazine. It predicted the fall a month in advance.
http://www.treasuryandrisk.com/2012/04/13/jpmorgan-treasury-takes-big-bets

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extant_pisces
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posted May 11, 2012 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for extant_pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...led an expansion into corporate and mortgage-debt investments with a mandate to generate profits...

-So to be clear, how many bad stories start this way?

Some of Macris’s bets are now so large that JPMorgan probably can’t unwind them without losing money or roiling financial markets, the former executives said, based on knowledge gleaned from people inside the bank and dealers at other firms.

-There 'tis!

"It’s a complete tempest in a teapot," Dimon said on a conference call with investors today after the bank announced first-quarter earnings. "Every bank has a major portfolio and in those portfolios you make investments that you think are wise."

-LOL

Thanks, illuminating read!

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted May 11, 2012 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The "I'm an ignorant boss who didn't understand what my rogue employees were doing" defense won't work this time around

Makes it sticky that the gentleman was chummy with the Secretary Geithner and the White House. Not any more I guess

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extant_pisces
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posted May 11, 2012 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for extant_pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oooh, yes, I read that also. Can only hope that the similarly slippery Geithner will finally meet his own inglorious-PR-nightmare-fueled demise!

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Aquacheeka
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posted May 11, 2012 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
extant_pisces, do you remember sutekh saying the sun in Pisces moon in Aries combo creates people who make horribly bad decisions and using Rihanna as an example?

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extant_pisces
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posted May 11, 2012 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for extant_pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aquacheeka: No, I must've missed that one! hahah, gotta compare one infuriatingly "likeable" trainwreck to another! *checks DXP*

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Lonake
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posted May 11, 2012 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh those darn Pisces men. Never give them any money (!)
Esp the CEO's o'dear. :: shakes head ::

Soooooooooooooooo.
Anyone gonna post the chart, maybe even, GASP, the OP?

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted May 11, 2012 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A cookie for whoever can find the time of his birth.

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Lonake
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posted May 11, 2012 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Shoot, there should be since he's a big boy. Just checked a bit, ADB. No dice no cookie

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Mblake81
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posted May 11, 2012 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I recently found out in personal news that an ex-pisces boss of mine, who was also the local firehouse chief, and a deacon of the church, was fired for some form of money embezzlement, also caught with a female employee at work.(wife/two daughters).

He told all of us that he told his daughter on her 18th birthday that he didn't love her mother, but here is a car I bought you, happy birthday..

He stopped me once and asked for my honest opinion on what he had done. I asked him how does he feel when he lays his head on the pillow? He answer was "Good!", so I told him, "There you go, buddy."

He was hard on us, him having such "High Standards" and all..

Pisces can go both ways and I am not talking about sex.. he used to brag about how he made one of his male employees literally cry for his job once.

..My my demon, Er I mean deacon.. my my.

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Lonake
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posted May 11, 2012 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ewwww embezzlement's so effin dirty. My hometown is riddled with that, and it's in the form of the people who run the city, stealing from their own people

But haha since it's mentioned, surprise surprise surprise, it's ruled by Jup, Neptune, and Mars.

Woah check it out. Dimon's Merc's @ 3 Pisces conj t.Neptune.
This lil guy is appropriate:

quote:
Originally posted by Mblake81:
he used to brag about how he made one of his male employees literally cry for his job once.

I completely missed this one on the last go-around.
Nasty!

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Mblake81
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posted May 11, 2012 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lonake:
Ewwww embezzlement's so effin dirty. My hometown is riddled with that, and it's in the form of the people who run the city, stealing from their own people


From what was spoken by many, he was taking from people who were just starting in the business. Somehow taking a little bit here and there and giving excuses about those same employees not using the time clock system right. He was altering it in the computer himself, then after doing three times he would fire them for not being able to use it correctly(incompetence). He would also be able to somehow keep part of the last paycheck because of that. *bonkers*

It makes sense because one night an ex-employee came in looking for him, He was going on about how he had proof he used them right haha. I thought he was just crazy.

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Lonake
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posted May 11, 2012 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does psychic Mblake81 see lawsuits in his future?

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Mblake81
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posted May 11, 2012 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mblake81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you gave em a crystal ball they would probably use it to club his head in.

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