posted May 14, 2012 11:35 AM            

Synastry is the combining of two natal charts to see the bare bones of any relationship. The synastry chart has the man’s natal on the outside and the woman’s natal chart on the inside. I will list some easy things you can look for to find some powerful information.

1.The Moons–The moon is the deepest heart of any person. A man will show his moon to few people: a child, a lover and God, in most cases. The man’s moon must touch the woman’s in a harmonious way for there to be a soul to soul relationship, in my opinion. For the absolute beginner, the blue lines are the harmonious aspects. The harmonious aspects are the trines and sextiles. In harmonious aspects, there is an easy, comfortable, safe feeling and relaxed flow between the two planets. One needs this to feel as if the person is one’s best friend. Moon conjunct Moon would be very powerful and close , too.The conjunction is one planet on top of another. With some planets, the conjunct is harmonious. With others, it is not. With the moon, the conjunction is harmonious!

2. Attraction aspects–There has to be some attraction or no one would enter into a romantic relationship. With attraction, we have several things at which to look, as there are several TYPES of attraction.I will try to address a few of them.

A. Venus trine ,sextile or conjunct Venus–this is not a sexual attraction. This is an aesthethic attraction such as my liking opera and your liking rap. It could be likened to my liking hot spicy food and your liking bland food. It is a liking of the person’s “way”, if you understand what I mean.It is an appreciating the beauty of that person: the inside and outside traits of that person. To put it simply, it is whether or not that person APPEALS to you. Trines and sextiles are blue lines, as I said. If you have blue lines touching your mutual Venus’, you will appeal to each other. Venus conjunct Venus is a harmonious aspect. If you have red lines, you will not have an easy appeal to each other. Red lines are squares and oppositions. If you have red lines, one may like the opera and the other may like rap blasting. One may like museums and the other may like baseball. Squares and oppositions to the Venus’ do not mark the end of the relationship or the beginning. They simply show that what is pleasing to each person is different.

Venus can also be one’s values.If the Venus’ are in harmonious, there will be a similarity in values. Each person may value family. As such, they would put family, first, as a couple. If the Venus’ are squared, one may like night life at the clubs and the other may like staying home with a movie. In a relationship, this may cause problems as the value systems may collide. Again, Venus in aspect to Venus is not a sexual aspect, per se.

B. Venus trine, sextile or conjunct Pluto . When Pluto touches anything, he puts a nuclear power on it. Venus is a gentle planet with refined sensibilities. Pluto takes her as Rhett Butler with Scarlett O’Hara in the famous scene when he carries her up the stairs to the bedroom. The Pluto in the relationship will be the primal tiger. The Venus will be the recipient. Conversely, Venus square Pluto may be passion of the War of the Roses sort. It may be wonderful at the beginning but may be too contentious to last, long term.

C. Moon trine, sextile or conjunct Pluto When the planet of the deepest heart, the moon, touches the planet of primal nuclear power, we have one of the most intense relationships of the Zodiac. This is the “it aspect” in synastry. It has great tenderness, great understanding and the passion of the ocean’s tides.

D. Mars trine, sextile or conjunct Venus When the planet of drive(Mars) touches the planet of beauty(Venus), we have attraction . This attraction may not last.It is simply attraction. Soul mate love and longevity of the relationship are not a factor in pure attraction which is Mars/Venus. They are something else, altogether.

3 . House Overlays This is an easy way to see what sphere of life you bring to him and vice-versa. One can do House Overlays in a number of ways. You can take any of your planets and see WHICH of his houses it goes into. You bring your planet TO him. You touch him in the domain/sphere of that house. Let me give a few examples. If your Sun overlays to his first house, you will bring him confidence, as his first house is himself. If your Sun overlays to his 7th house, he may think of you as a serious marriage partner. If your Sun overlays his 8th house, you may open up deep passion and/or open up deep emotions in him. If your Sun overlays his 9th house, you may bring intellectual qualities to him and you may relate strongly, in the area of the intellect. In this case, you would not be triggering a romantic interest in you, but an intellectual one. This is based on this one aspect, alone. The chart is made up of thousands of such aspects. The Master Astrologer can put them altogether. This mastery in blending is what separates the levels in Astrology from student to Master, and all the levels in between.

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posted May 14, 2012 11:35 AM            

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posted May 14, 2012 12:23 PM            

Re: Moon aspects. I don't think the Moon itself is necessary for soul to soul interactions. I think the 4th house (and specifically the IC point) can stand in for the Moon.

When I look at synastry charts, the first thing I look for are angle/angle conjunctions. If there is such a conjunction, it is SO obvious that the people involved would get together or at least impact each other in a meaningful way.

After that I check the Vertex. Vertex conjunct or opposite (maybe square) a planet or point within 2 degrees. Again, another OBVIOUS reason why the couple is together.

Then I look at house overlays... 4th, 5th, 7th, 8th, 10th and 1st are my favorite ones for romantic relationships.

After that I reduce the orbs to find the closest aspect (discounting minor aspects and maybe sextiles) to get the over all theme of the couple's interactions. However, if there is a double whammy, this will override the closest aspect IMO.

Also if there is a LACK of aspects, I don't think the relationship will last very long after the initial attraction.

posted May 14, 2012 01:05 PM            

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Re: The attraction aspects, there's also Venus/Uranus, Venus/Neptune, Mars/Neptune, Moon/Mars, Sun or ASC/Venus. And they don't have to be easy aspects. Also even with squares, Venus/Venus is good. There are still similarities between squared signs (they are the same modality after all) and Venus square Venus is better than no Venus at all.

Re: Moon aspects. I don't think the Moon itself is necessary for soul to soul interactions. I think the 4th house (and specifically the IC point) can stand in for the Moon.

When I look at synastry charts, the first thing I look for are angle/angle conjunctions. If there is such a conjunction, it is SO obvious that the people involved would get together or at least impact each other in a meaningful way.

After that I check the Vertex. Vertex conjunct or opposite (maybe square) a planet or point within 2 degrees. Again, another OBVIOUS reason why the couple is together.

Then I look at house overlays... 4th, 5th, 7th, 8th, 10th and 1st are my favorite ones for romantic relationships.

After that I reduce the orbs to find the closest aspect (discounting minor aspects and maybe sextiles) to get the over all theme of the couple's interactions. However, if there is a double whammy, this will override the closest aspect IMO.

Also if there is a LACK of aspects, I don't think the relationship will last very long after the initial attraction.

I agree with everything else you said Ami

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This is very good Amwols. I want to come back and ask you specific things.I will start with this. Tell me what Venus square Venus feels like to you? Can you get behind the eyes of it? Thanks xx

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posted May 14, 2012 01:25 PM            

E. Uranus attraction. Uranus is electricity which includes electrical shock. You know the lightning bolt that hits you when you fall in love? Think Uranus. However, Uranus, itself, has no sustaining power. Uranus in trines and sextiles would be electricity that you could incorporate into the relationship rather than electricity that would be too intense such that it would set your hair on fire and send you running. The conjunction for Uranus is not harmonious. It is usually too intense. The hard aspects with Uranus are usually too electrical, in that they are too uprooting and unstable for relationship longevity.However, you will have fun while they last. We are talking "walking on a high wire" fun.

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posted May 14, 2012 01:33 PM            

This is my take on;

Venus trine Mars:
This is an aspect indicator that benefits any type of Synastry relationship, but it has one drawback. The essence of this energy does not compel individuals to be together in a manner that lovers would like to feel. Instead, it stands better as a support element. Both the Venus person and the Mars person like to offer and receive gifts, tokens and or, physical pleasures from each other in a manner that genuinely says, I appreciate you being here. And should this unit breakup, the individuals will keep the memories of those moments that the Venus trine Mars aspect created.

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posted May 14, 2012 01:34 PM            

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Originally posted by amowls**:
I would add a caveat that it also depends on what the native is looking for. Some people prefer tense aspects and find harmonious ones boring. Although, Uranus is never boring.

In general, a lot of astrologers say that you need a few squares and oppositions to keep the attraction going. A synastry chart with all trines and sextiles will probably never lead to anything more than just friendship.

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You have a point there, Amwols

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posted May 14, 2012 01:39 PM            

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I think Venus quincux Venus is more like what you described, rather than Venus square Venus. Venus square Venus DOES find the other appealing, just in a more grating way. The best way I can describe it is like coming across someone wearing the LOUDEST neon colors ever and you're like "man, that would look tacky on me but this person looks awesome!"

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After the initial feeling the person looks awesome, later do you hate that thing about the the person.

I am thinking about Donald Trump.Ivana said that he LOVED her accent at the beginning. At the end, he wanted to throw her out the window when he heard her talk.

Could that be a cheap way to sum up Venus square Venus

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posted May 14, 2012 01:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

After the initial feeling the person looks awesome, later do you hate that thing about the the person.

I am thinking about Donald Trump.Ivana said that he LOVED her accent at the beginning. At the end, he wanted to throw her out the window when he heard her talk.

Could that be a cheap way to sum up Venus square Venus

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posted May 14, 2012 01:54 PM            

These could work too - M 90/180 SA

posted May 14, 2012 01:56 PM            

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Originally posted by slowpoke:
The Trump situation could also apply with VE 180 VE or MR 180 VE or or VE 180 JP or VE 180 UR. S 90 M could work here too.

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Well, I am JUST talking about her accent, now

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posted May 14, 2012 02:01 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Ami,

I have no Moon aspects in Synastry, and the only ones I have in Composite are two Squares, with Pluto and Uranus

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WOW interesting Ian. So, you and she have unaspected Moons in synastry? If so, I want to ask you some questions, Ian! x

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posted May 14, 2012 02:02 PM            

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Originally posted by amowls**:
I would add a caveat that it also depends on what the native is looking for. Some people prefer tense aspects and find harmonious ones boring. Although, Uranus is never boring.

In general, a lot of astrologers say that you need a few squares and oppositions to keep the attraction going. A synastry chart with all trines and sextiles will probably never lead to anything more than just friendship.

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This reminds me of a line on last night's finale of "Desperate Housewives." Gabrielle asked her husband Carlos why the two fight so much compared to other couples, she said, "Some couples just seem to waltz through life." He took her hand and led her onto the dance floor, saying, "That's easy. You and me?... we're doing a tango."

posted May 14, 2012 02:14 PM            

You know, your chart and one other persons were the only 2 charts IQ ever pronounced as soul mates. Do you want to put the synastry up, on this thread?

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posted May 14, 2012 03:11 PM            

3. Stability Aspects--Saturn provides stability but it has a flip side. Just enough and rightly placed Saturn makes for stability. Too much and wrongly placed Saturn make for misery. Let me try to explain, briefly. Saturn is glue. glue works wonders in the right places and at the right times. In the wrong places and at the wrong times, you could find your head glued to your pants. Now, THAT would not be good, would it? Lets talk specifics. Saturn in harmonious aspect with Saturn feels like a comfortable glue. The people will feel stable, as if they can stay together, no matter what. However, when we get Saturn in hard aspect to itself, we may have the worst parts of each person vying for top dog. We may have a teacher/teacher relationship with no pupil. Saturn in hard aspect to Venus may make love cold. Saturn cools what it touches. Saturn in hard aspect to Mars may shut down the drive of the other. Saturn in hard aspect to mercury may criticize the mind of the other. Saturn in hard aspect to the moon may criticize the gentle heart of the other.

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posted May 14, 2012 03:27 PM            

Do keep in mind that the charts below are in Whole Houses. Please let me know if you prefer them in Placidus.

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posted May 14, 2012 04:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Easy, Easy Things Anyone Can Tell About a Relationship From the Synastry Chart
By amiann | Published: May 14, 2012

Synastry is the combining of two natal charts to see the bare bones of any relationship. The synastry chart has the man�s natal on the outside and the woman�s natal chart on the inside. I will list some easy things you can look for to find some powerful information.

1.The Moons�The moon is the deepest heart of any person. A man will show his moon to few people: a child, a lover and God, in most cases. The man�s moon must touch the woman�s in a harmonious way for there to be a soul to soul relationship, in my opinion. For the absolute beginner, the blue lines are the harmonious aspects. The harmonious aspects are the trines and sextiles. In harmonious aspects, there is an easy, comfortable, safe feeling and relaxed flow between the two planets. One needs this to feel as if the person is one�s best friend. Moon conjunct Moon would be very powerful and close , too.The conjunction is one planet on top of another. With some planets, the conjunct is harmonious. With others, it is not. With the moon, the conjunction is harmonious!

2. Attraction aspects�There has to be some attraction or no one would enter into a romantic relationship. With attraction, we have several things at which to look, as there are several TYPES of attraction.I will try to address a few of them.

A. Venus trine ,sextile or conjunct Venus�this is not a sexual attraction. This is an aesthethic attraction such as my liking opera and your liking rap. It could be likened to my liking hot spicy food and your liking bland food. It is a liking of the person�s �way�, if you understand what I mean.It is an appreciating the beauty of that person: the inside and outside traits of that person. To put it simply, it is whether or not that person APPEALS to you. Trines and sextiles are blue lines, as I said. If you have blue lines touching your mutual Venus�, you will appeal to each other. Venus conjunct Venus is a harmonious aspect. If you have red lines, you will not have an easy appeal to each other. Red lines are squares and oppositions. If you have red lines, one may like the opera and the other may like rap blasting. One may like museums and the other may like baseball. Squares and oppositions to the Venus� do not mark the end of the relationship or the beginning. They simply show that what is pleasing to each person is different.

Venus can also be one�s values.If the Venus� are in harmonious, there will be a similarity in values. Each person may value family. As such, they would put family, first, as a couple. If the Venus� are squared, one may like night life at the clubs and the other may like staying home with a movie. In a relationship, this may cause problems as the value systems may collide. Again, Venus in aspect to Venus is not a sexual aspect, per se.

B. Venus trine, sextile or conjunct Pluto . When Pluto touches anything, he puts a nuclear power on it. Venus is a gentle planet with refined sensibilities. Pluto takes her as Rhett Butler with Scarlett O�Hara in the famous scene when he carries her up the stairs to the bedroom. The Pluto in the relationship will be the primal tiger. The Venus will be the recipient. Conversely, Venus square Pluto may be passion of the War of the Roses sort. It may be wonderful at the beginning but may be too contentious to last, long term.

C. Moon trine, sextile or conjunct Pluto When the planet of the deepest heart, the moon, touches the planet of primal nuclear power, we have one of the most intense relationships of the Zodiac. This is the �it aspect� in synastry. It has great tenderness, great understanding and the passion of the ocean�s tides.

D. Mars trine, sextile or conjunct Venus When the planet of drive(Mars) touches the planet of beauty(Venus), we have attraction . This attraction may not last.It is simply attraction. Soul mate love and longevity of the relationship are not a factor in pure attraction which is Mars/Venus. They are something else, altogether.

3 . House Overlays This is an easy way to see what sphere of life you bring to him and vice-versa. One can do House Overlays in a number of ways. You can take any of your planets and see WHICH of his houses it goes into. You bring your planet TO him. You touch him in the domain/sphere of that house. Let me give a few examples. If your Sun overlays to his first house, you will bring him confidence, as his first house is himself. If your Sun overlays to his 7th house, he may think of you as a serious marriage partner. If your Sun overlays his 8th house, you may open up deep passion and/or open up deep emotions in him. If your Sun overlays his 9th house, you may bring intellectual qualities to him and you may relate strongly, in the area of the intellect. In this case, you would not be triggering a romantic interest in you, but an intellectual one. This is based on this one aspect, alone. The chart is made up of thousands of such aspects. The Master Astrologer can put them altogether. This mastery in blending is what separates the levels in Astrology from student to Master, and all the levels in between.

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As far as #3 House overlays is concerned, the effect of the overlay goes both ways, but the effects experienced are different for the house person versus the planet person. The planet person does bring the planet, sun, or moon to the house person, but that doesn't mean that only the house person feels the effects. With the example you gave of the Sun person in the house person's 1st house giving the house person confidence, I think it's the other way around (talking from experience). I have Pisces rising and have know of at least two people with their Pisces suns right on my ascendent. My being around them, my presence (1st house) seems to energize them. I boost their confidence. In turn, the effect on me is a sense of validation, of having helped with that boost of confidence to the planet person. I have Aries also in the 1st, and one Aries female I know also seems energized (a little too much, imo) when she's around me. I almost feel like her therapist, listening to all her woes, etc. Some might ask, "how does this make you feel validated?" Basically, I got to exercise a side of myself that was simply "there for her." Not the type of validation you might expect, but there you have it. The point being, I think you got the overlay interpretations backwards.
A person could have their Pisces sun in a house other than the 1st, but around me, it could be in my 1st. Around me, their Pisces sun energy would find embodiment where before it hadn't, boosting their confidence now.
Example of my own: I know a woman who is VERY attractive, we have a mutual interest in astrology, talked about it once at a bookstore for over 3 hours over coffee, etc., and I have felt VERY romantic feelings for her. My Sun, moon, and Mercury all fall in her 5th house. I do bring the planets to her chart, as well as the effect. Another; I know of another where my sun, moon, and mercury touch her 7th house. I have thought of her as a marriage partner down the road as I try to maintain contact with her.

With yet another female I know and have kept in contact with, I got to talking about all of the creative pursuits I've been working on. Not speaking of "200 things I want to do before I die," but 3 or 4 projects that could come to fruition. I've had these projects going on for some time, but talking to her about it feels inspiring for me. My Neptune is in her 5th. When I suggested we eventually meet up (she lives in another country and I've been working to save up enough money to visit her), she was worried that I'd be disappointed when I met her. I couldn't imagine why. But when I ran our synastry chart, I noticed that 5 of her planets --including her Neptune--and her sun are spread out over my 9th and 10th houses. From what I've read about planets near the MC, especially Neptune (hers is in my 10th near the MC), the downside can be disappointment. Neptune is associated with idealization (not trying to flat out say she idealizes me, but she has told me "you seem too good to be true," and I've never tried to pose as anyone I'm not and pretend anything), and the down side to Neptune is disappointment.

So, it looks like the planet person not only brings the planet, but the effect as well. The house person receives and is affected, but not in the same way the planet person is. Mutual effects, different interpretations.