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12thhouser
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posted May 18, 2012 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some time ago I posted about someone having a Neptune synastry overlay very near my MC in Sagittarius. According to some material I read, some sources are suggesting I tend to idealize/admire the person, other sources suggest the person idealizes me. I couldn't quite figure it out. Then one person on this site typed out portions of a synastry report they bought, and it happened to include a Neptune sextile & conjunct MC synastry aspect, saying that, for instance, if Person A had Neptune on Person B's MC, that Person A would "idealize" Person B (since their Neptune was on the other's MC), and that Person B (the MC person) would "admire" Person A. I thought it would be the other way around, but other sites I later found seemed to confirm what this person got in their report. Interesting.

Then I tried something else I'd overlooked. Besides having Neptune near the MC in my natal chart (10 degrees away, so a wide orb, but still nearing the MC), I considered those I knew born in my generation. I found I didn't really idealize them, but rather, I felt at home in their company and the situation itself felt "ideal," but I admired them as individuals rather than idealized them. LOL, so confusing, yet I have to admit, at the same time, so clear.

The funny thing is, years and years ago when I went to one of my high school reunions, I discovered people whom I didn't think really knew me that well had talked about me over the years in a really positive way. I'm not trying to feign humility here (all the while suggesting that everyone from high school was idealizing me), but... I guess I'm trying to figure out how synastry overlays can work, particularly involving Neptune with the whole "idealize" versus "admire" dynamic. Granted, people could say, "Argh! They're just words!" but the sentiment behind those words can make a lot of difference to someone. Anyways, I'll stop here now.

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posted May 18, 2012 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sometimes the aspects can go either way, or both ways..
I believe it depends on the persons natal. It depends how aspects to their natal neptune shows how they are "affected" by Neptune. Also depends on what else neptune is doing in synastry and composite.
But Im not 100% sure if I worded that correctly.

I have this with fishy, his neptune sits dead on top my MC...
I idolize and admire him..
I think he does to. He tells me your one of the strongest females I have ever met..
He also comes to me for advice, saying your one of the smartest females Ive met...
Maybe thats Neptune??

I think its both of us Feeling Neptune because its very active in synastry and in the composite.
For both of us.
Neptune is my chart ruler, so Im digging it! lol

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posted May 18, 2012 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
Sometimes the aspects can go either way, or both ways..
I believe it depends on the persons natal. It depends how aspects to their natal neptune shows how they are "affected" by Neptune. Also depends on what else neptune is doing in synastry and composite.
But Im not 100% sure if I worded that correctly.

I have this with fishy, his neptune sits dead on top my MC...
I idolize and admire him..
I think he does to. He tells me your one of the strongest females I have ever met..
He also comes to me for advice, saying your one of the smartest females Ive met...
Maybe thats Neptune??

I think its both of us Feeling Neptune because its very active in synastry and in the composite.
For both of us.
Neptune is my chart ruler, so Im digging it! lol


Hi, Lioness. Thanks for the feedback. I'm curious though, what sign is the Neptune in? Also, does your Neptune aspect any of his planets? And, even though his Neptune conjuncts your MC, does it aspect any of your planets, too? Thanks.

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posted May 18, 2012 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptune in sag.. His neptune trines my leo stellium sun, moon, merc.

My neptune conjunct his moon, and square his sun..

It's also alot of neptune in the composite.
It's in h7, trine venus sextile moon..

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posted May 18, 2012 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
Neptune in sag.. His neptune trines my leo stellium sun, moon, merc.

My neptune conjunct his moon, and square his sun..

It's also alot of neptune in the composite.
It's in h7, trine venus sextile moon..


His Neptune is in the 7th house, or your composite Neptune is in the 7th?

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posted May 18, 2012 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
His Neptune is in the 7th house, or your composite Neptune is in the 7th?

Composite neptune in h7

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posted May 18, 2012 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So neptune is a heavy theme so it's effecting us both..

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posted May 18, 2012 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
So neptune is a heavy theme so it's effecting us both..

Is fishy a Pisces?

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posted May 18, 2012 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Is fishy a Pisces?

Yes he is.
Sun, mercury in pisces.

I have a pisces asc

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posted May 18, 2012 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
Yes he is.
Sun, mercury in pisces.

I have a pisces asc


What sign is his Venus in?

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posted May 18, 2012 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cap.venus
Aqua mars

I'm cancer venus leo mars..lol

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posted May 18, 2012 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
Cap.venus
Aqua mars

I'm cancer venus leo mars..lol


Okay thanks. Sorry to talk "in code" and get this information piecemeal, it's just that someone I know has their Neptune in my 10th, about 6 degrees away from my MC, but doesn't aspect any of my planets. My Neptune sextiles their Venus and squares their Merc. The feelings I'm having about the person feel more like envy than idolization, but since their Neptune doesn't aspect anything of mine, I'm trying to figure out where the envy is coming from. Although their Neptune is near my MC, I've read in a book about Neptune that when that happens, the Neptune person will feel something toward the MC person, but the MC person (me) would not feel any response. That's why I'm confused.

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posted May 18, 2012 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's neptune doing in your chart. Maybe ur not comfortable with neptune...
I gave neptune sq mars so I like it.. Hehe

Also is neptune afflicted in the composite, maybe that can explain it..

But then again envy sounds more like pluto..

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posted May 18, 2012 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
Cap.venus
Aqua mars

I'm cancer venus leo mars..lol


Ah, so both your Venus and Mars oppose each other. Interesting.

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posted May 18, 2012 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
What's neptune doing in your chart. Maybe ur not comfortable with neptune...
I gave neptune sq mars so I like it.. Hehe

Also is neptune afflicted in the composite, maybe that can explain it..

But then again envy sounds more like pluto..


I have Pisces rising, I'm fine with Neptune.

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posted May 18, 2012 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
Ah, so both your Venus and Mars oppose each other. Interesting.

Mars opps mars..

Venus to venues is to wide, so they only opps by sign.

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posted May 18, 2012 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
I have Pisces rising, I'm fine with Neptune.

What degree mines 13..

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posted May 18, 2012 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
What degree mines 13..

16 degrees. My Venus in Pisces in 14 degrees.

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posted May 18, 2012 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool.... Ur venus on my asc... U love meeeee..lol

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posted May 18, 2012 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Cool.... Ur venus on my asc... U love meeeee..lol

LOL... and my Venus on my own ascendant. I love myself, too! lol

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posted May 18, 2012 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is pluto doing with u two..

Maybe that's where the envy coming from...

I don't think neptune is envy..

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posted May 18, 2012 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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LOL... and my Venus on my own ascendant. I love myself, too! lol

lmao... haha..
I have eros.at 10 pis, so I just wanna touch myself...lol lol lol

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posted May 18, 2012 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
Sometimes the aspects can go either way, or both ways..

This is true it seems.
BTW Lioness I just found out I am same Sun/Venus combo as your Fishy Spooky or wat lol

And for Neptune, I've never had the conj in synastry, tho I think it would be significant for the MC person, and it depends greatly on the sign. In Sagittarius Neptune wants to roam and explore, incorporate religions and define spirituality on their own terms, picking and choosing as they please. They need the big picture and to see the big patterns. I wonder if their Neptune on your MC might influence you to a wanderlust of sorts? Perhaps your classmates saw you as quite tolerant and broadminded.

Here's an interp from Planets in Synastry by Neville, p.156. I have to admit it's odd but maybe it will click.

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Neptune overlaid in the 10th can stimulate some of the less charitable and self-centered responses; in the extreme what might be characterized as the "gold digger" syndrome. The Neptune person might see the house person as an instrument through which some status-based aspiration can be achieved, or at least as an individual who enhances the Neptune person's social image. This is a relatively harmless response if the Neptune person is natally self-sufficient and confident, but if the natal chart indicates a combination of weakened self-image and an excessive need for wealth, position or recognition, this overlay may trigger an assessment that, "It's just as easy to fall in love with a rich man/physically beautiful woman as it is a poor/plain one." This response is the exception, of course, but it can't be discounted in synastric analysis when the right combination of factors exist.

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posted May 18, 2012 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lioness:
What is pluto doing with u two..

Maybe that's where the envy coming from...

I don't think neptune is envy..




I just researched the synastry on that. Their Pluto also doesn't aspect anything of mine, lol. My Pluto only trines their Venus. Looked that up, and apparently they are likely to view me a their soul mate. I'll have intense positive feeling toward them as well, but apparently they will view me possibly as their soul mate.

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posted May 18, 2012 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lonake...
oo u gonna fall

At 12
What about pluto in the composite.

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