posted May 19, 2012 11:55 AM            

im glad to hear it has got much much better with time Sand, i feel i am getting better, i just fear that this girl can't be falling in love with me so quickly, and i think shes really nice, maybe a bit good for me. so my insecurities thinking this wonder what she wants from me, what could i have that is valuable to her?

these thoughts are unhealthy, its not too often i have these feelings but i started having them recently for the first time with her and it was a bother.

i have jupiter-venus too, and i totally relate to the feeling of luck or fortune but feeling i don't deserve it.

i didn't think it was jupiter, makes sense, saturn always wants to restrict venus related things - expression, love, making the effort to interact with others, fortune/valuables??

this reminds me, i have always believed in life : Every time something Good happens, something bad follows, no matter how big or small either one is. every time something Really good that makes me happy happens, i get worried for the 'bad thing' that happens next, unfortunately, it seems im usually right

yes, this is true Aqua guy, sounds very saturn-venusian what you are talking about.

saturn is concerned with status (girlfriend/success) and obviously venus will be aswell (popularity) both about identity somewhat.

you are aware of these things but saturn makes you feel insecure/uncertain, fearful of humiliation, failure, embarrassment.

then with these fears, your self doubts/critique/cynism is then harsh on yourself when you try to reach out to others? because of all of this you don't reach out easily, this is my predictions.

posted May 19, 2012 04:43 PM            

Worse, I have Saturn square ASC... I just recently saw on this site someone say people with this aspect can feel deprived of childhood. So true for me it hurts. Never had a nice, normal childhood...was forced to make big decisions alone, often felt depressed due to having to hold such a big weight on my shoulders of having a useless dad. I was basically my own dad growing up. It sounds ridiculous, but I had to be my own authority. Saturn Rx combined with a wild, un-aspected Sun only asserts this further.

So as you can see, I also have a lot of Saturn issues even with harmonious aspects. Although the more harmonious aspects allow me to be extremely hardworking in the areas the planets dictate plus the house matters (11th house of social change + fame), I feel like the other negative ones can cancel all that out, like Rx and square ASC. It's difficult dealing with Saturnine influences I know... but you will be able to get over it someday. Since Saturn gives us wisdom with pain, we need to learn the lesson of Saturn's houses + its aspects to get past our pain, or else we will stay immature and in pain forever.

posted May 20, 2012 10:51 AM            

Nice topic, it fits well with my goal this year. I'm attempting to embrace insecurity and vulnerability. When ever I get that uncomfortable feeling of being insecure or vulnerable, instead of shying away from it... I'm running to it.

Those hard aspects to Saturn mean you can feel your confinements a lot stronger. That's an ability not everyone has... some people are confined and just don't feel it. So use that ability as an asset.

Not everything is going to come out smelling like roses all the time, but the good things will come with even greater results if you do. Even if you let yourself fall for this person and they aren't actually feeling the same way, it'd be a lot better than them falling for you and you holding yourself back. The reward is worth the risk.

I say this even after risking everything... and I mean EVERYTHING for a possibility and having it fail.

posted May 20, 2012 04:19 PM            

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Nice topic, it fits well with my goal this year. I'm attempting to embrace insecurity and vulnerability. When ever I get that uncomfortable feeling of being insecure or vulnerable, instead of shying away from it... I'm running to it.

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posted May 20, 2012 05:45 PM            

I have Saturn in the 1st house in Sagittarius conjunct Uranus. Saturn only aspects my Venus in the 7 H.

So Saturn/Uranus is opposite Venus.

I thought I was doomed love wise when I was younger. I never dated in high school. I always felt invisible to the opposite sex until I was 21.

Suddenly I was a catch. I was more self confident and I played the field for a while. I didn't like it. So once I finally found a long term boyfriend I was relieved.

posted May 20, 2012 09:09 PM            

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Originally posted by MyFavouriteName:
i'm dealing with some doubts and insecurities lately, i have hard saturn aspects in my chart. i know these are the culprits, they are making me think cynically/doubtfully. this is causing me a problem at the moment because im dating someone who shows all the signs of falling in love, i want to believe it but sometimes im having doubts.

i wanted to ask saturn people out there who may deal with similar issues and feelings - how often has your insecurities been been right, or how often have you been right about this? have you feared someone is not being honest with you and is using you?

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posted May 21, 2012 03:09 AM            

I am super slow to trust, because I've been burned before.

Now I take my sweet time.

It's hard sometimes because I have some passionate/intense placements that just make me want to go nuts but I have learned to tone it down.

I am quite suspicious of people but I think it's better that way, I don't take things at face value until I have some concrete proof of their worth. My feelings are very important to me and I don't mess around when it comes to them. I need to make sure I can trust the person before making any decisive move.

As for if the suspicions are real or not, it depends. Sometimes it's just paranoia that has hardly any logical sense to it, other times it comes from intuition and actually points to something wrong.

It all depends, but with time usually things get clear and truth eventually comes out.