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lovehate122
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posted May 19, 2012 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovehate122     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have an 8th house mars in virgo
and saturn in aries that could be it , saturn in aries is the only planet i have in fire i have all my other planets are air and earth. Could that be why i tend to glamourize violence i think blood and physical pain are beautifull and i also think that sometimes violence is the only answer . I also have a stellium in the 3rd house which is aries !
could these aspects be the culprit???

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posted May 19, 2012 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just checked my composite with the hugest fights & you were exactly right mars square Saturn! That was a killer.
Sad but true

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posted May 19, 2012 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars conjunct or square Saturn. Mars in 1st house. Mars square Pluto. Sun, Moon, Venus square Saturn.

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posted May 19, 2012 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun, Moon, Venus sq Saturn makes people fight? Why, Ros?

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posted May 19, 2012 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Mars conjunct or square Saturn. Mars in 1st house. Mars square Pluto. Sun, Moon, Venus square Saturn.

Because Sun who represents the SPIRIT and Moon representing EMOTIONS are not in good terms with Saturn. When these planets are in square, the native starts to feel missunderstood gets angry easily. Mainly because he doesnt know how to make himself understood. Saturn limits his way to express. When he lose control he manifest in the opposite way Saturn wants.

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posted May 19, 2012 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Ami & Rosa

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posted May 19, 2012 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Mars conjunct or square Saturn. Mars in 1st house. Mars square Pluto. Sun, Moon, Venus square Saturn.

I have mars conj Saturn in Scorpio and the h1 mars. Anger is definitely not conducive to fighting tho.

I Also don't wanna end up looking like Mickey rourke one day. Now that one loved to fight. He tried boxing at the peak of his acting career right after making angel heart.

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posted May 19, 2012 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sand if you're mars & you're held back by Saturn long enough you're gonna fight especially with the square but I'm talking composite here lol not natal

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posted May 19, 2012 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh I love to fight lol it's just that anger will get u shot like sonny in the godfather LOL! I also prefer contact sports. Even if it wasn't I made it one.

How do u mean composite? U knew ur opponents' Astro?

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posted May 19, 2012 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyFavouriteName     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
since you asked who ENJOYS/loves it, i don't think its moon-sun in square, i think this makes the native familiar at best.

i would say that Venus in aries, or square mars, strong mars aspect.

Moon in aspect to mars as well.

if we talk about verbal sparring/mental challenge, it might be mercury or uranus.

pluto for actual violence maybe.

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posted May 19, 2012 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lmao yup I did bro coz datz how I roll
Don't fuq with mars square Pluto HI-YA!

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posted May 19, 2012 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh ya sports, yoga, karate, whatever releases the seething volcano is great!

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posted May 19, 2012 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I get annoyed/irriated pretty easily, but I'm not voilent

Sun-Mars-Pluto conjunct

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posted May 19, 2012 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for depth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun/Mars
Moon/Mars
Sun/Pluto
Moon/Pluto
Mars/Saturn
Mars/Pluto
Mars/Uranus

Mars/Asc harsh aspects.

Mars in the 12H could translate into passive aggressive behavior or deep seated anger that eventually finds a violent expression(depends on aspects).

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posted May 19, 2012 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars conjunct ASC I think add to someone's irritability, or Mars quincunx Pluto. Two aspects I have, and I'm EASILY annoyed by the littlest things. : / I can have a big reaction to them. But really big character flaws I'm able to gloss over or tolerate. Dunno why, maybe my squared Neptune?

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posted May 19, 2012 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Verbal Abuse: Mercury in hard aspect to Mars, especially the square. This presses the native to have a lot of verbal arguments with other people. They use Martian energy to throw out cutting, biting words. The things they say are hurtful and sometimes violent.

This aspect can also make them have fragile nerves, so this can cause them to off the handle and say such things more easily than most.

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posted May 19, 2012 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
Verbal Abuse: Mercury in hard aspect to Mars, especially the square. This presses the native to have a lot of verbal arguments with other people. They use Martian energy to throw out cutting, biting words. The things they say are hurtful and sometimes violent.

This aspect can also make them have fragile nerves, so this can cause them to off the handle and say such things more easily than most.


I have Mercury in Leo square Mars in Cappy. I can confirm that.

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posted May 19, 2012 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for depth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[B]Verbal Abuse: Mercury in hard aspect to Mars, especially the square. This presses the native to have a lot of verbal arguments with other people. They use Martian energy to throw out cutting, biting words. The things they say are hurtful and sometimes violent.

Mercury with Pluto can be bad as well. They say worse things.

My Mercury's in Sagittarius conjunct Pluto(out of sign) & I'm very capable of dishing out cutting, biting words. In my case, Venus(conj Mercury) slightly tones down the former aspect.

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posted May 19, 2012 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by depth:
Mercury with Pluto can be bad as well. They say worse things.

My Mercury's in Sagittarius conjunct Pluto(out of sign) & I'm very capable of dishing out cutting, biting words. In my case, Venus(conj Mercury) slightly tones down the former aspect.


You read my mind completely!

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posted May 19, 2012 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by depth:
Mercury with Pluto can be bad as well. They say worse things.

My Mercury's in Sagittarius conjunct Pluto(out of sign) & I'm very capable of dishing out cutting, biting words. In my case, Venus(conj Mercury) slightly tones down the former aspect.


I can see this actually. I recently just happened to meet someone with this aspect and they seemed like they could be really obsessive, plus they were pretty aggressive when communicating with me even when being nice. I would be afraid to see them when they got very angry....

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posted May 19, 2012 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
I have Mercury in Leo square Mars in Cappy. I can confirm that.

I'm sorry you struggle with this aspect. I actually have it myself - that's why I was so adamant on bringing it up. I have a tendency to say the cruelest things that really hit sensitive points in other people. I can hold my own in any kind of verbal argument - I rarely if ever back down, and I have made men cry before. I have been called verbally abusive by family members. But since my Mars is in my 8th house, I usually only end up being this way to people who either try to get close to me too quickly, or who are close to me already but I dislike them....

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posted May 19, 2012 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The worse person I ever knew had mars in scorpio opp saturn in taurus 1*.
2nd worse had mars in aries h2 opp pluto in libra h8 1*.
Oppositions can be every bit as bad as squares. I read that opp between taurus and scorpio/2nd h and 8th h can be the most diffulcult to overcome because of the very fixed, stuborn nature of it.

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posted May 19, 2012 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for depth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by scrappydog:
Oppositions can be every bit as bad as squares. I read that opp between taurus and scorpio/2nd h and 8th h can be the most diffulcult to overcome because of the very fixed, stuborn nature of it.

Oppositions are potentially worse.

Squares result in internal conflict. While oppositions bring internal conflict leading to projection as well as EXTERNAL CONFLICT.

Suppose one has a T-square in their chart.
Mars opp Pluto. Mars/Pluto square Moon.
Such a person could easily attract rapists, abusive relationships, etc(i.e. PLUTO)


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posted May 19, 2012 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for depth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
I can see this actually. I recently just happened to meet someone with this aspect and they seemed like they could be really obsessive, plus they were pretty aggressive when communicating with me even when being nice. I would be afraid to see them when they got very angry....

Yep, I can be really obsessive. But I get bored real fast as well.

I wonder if this person's ascendant aspects the Merc/Pluto conjunction or if they have Mars/Pluto/Merc in the 1st. Another possibility is the person was mad at someone/something/you.

When I'm ****** , I'm ****** at everything & everyone. And if I don't like someone, my words or expressions give it away.

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posted May 19, 2012 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
Verbal Abuse: Mercury in hard aspect to Mars, especially the square. This presses the native to have a lot of verbal arguments with other people. They use Martian energy to throw out cutting, biting words.

This one and Mercury sq Pluto. They take pride in it too which doesn't help matters.

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