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Planet Queen
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posted May 22, 2012 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Planet Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus-Pluto aspects, especially if the Venus is ruled by Taurus. Venus in the 5th especially if it is conjunct Jupiter. But I'm only basing this off my friend who definitely has a sex addiction. Also the ruler of her 8th H (Moon) is square Pluto in the 11th H and square Venus in the 5th H.

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sand
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posted May 23, 2012 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol oh noez I have Venus in Taurus opp Pluto in Scorpio. They're my dominants. Hypothetically it's a possibility if one is rather insatiable I guess..

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Planet Queen
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posted May 23, 2012 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Planet Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:
Lol oh noez I have Venus in Taurus opp Pluto in Scorpio. They're my dominants. Hypothetically it's a possibility if one is rather insatiable I guess..

Yeah, but my friend in particular just has manifested one side of its possibilities. Also she was sexually abused as a child, poor thing, and this has lead to her having a unhealthy view on sex.

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yvetterocks101
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posted May 23, 2012 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yvetterocks101     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well this is quite embarrassing but ever since i can remember i had an obsession with sex not the actual act itself but just either reading or just talking about it i guess lol Like just by thinking about it is a turn on to me i don't want to get into details here lol. I check my chart to see where my addiction comes from but i cant seem to know where. But i think this asteroid probably may explain it

Venus trine mars
Venus Quintile Amor
Sun Trine Amor
Mercury Trine Amor
Pluto Opps Amor
Jupiter Sextile Eros
Venus Square Eros
Saturn Conjunct Lust and i think conjunct my DC
Jupiter Quintile Cupido
Venus and Mars Trine Dejanria
Venus Quintile Nessus
Uranus Quintile Nessus
Neptune Quintile Nessus

Nessus in Scorpio
Dejanria in Scorpio
Cupido in Sagittarius
Amor in Taurus
Eros in Saggittarius

P.S i got Sun sextile pluto orb 0,07' and Mercury Sextile Pluto orb 5 so is probably from this aspect to that i probably have my problem lol .

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Planet Queen
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posted May 23, 2012 01:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Planet Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like how everyone talks about themselves. Haha!

I think I have a normal sex drive, but my boyfriend says its high. I do have a lot of fire/activating aspects and Sun in 8th H.

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sand
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posted May 23, 2012 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Planet Queen:
Yeah, but my friend in particular just has manifested one side of its possibilities. Also she was sexually abused as a child, poor thing, and this has lead to her having a unhealthy view on sex.

Sorry to hear that planet queen..

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popcorn
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posted May 23, 2012 04:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Planet Queen:
Yeah, but my friend in particular just has manifested one side of its possibilities. Also she was sexually abused as a child, poor thing, and this has lead to her having a unhealthy view on sex.

I agree...This could be one thing which could trigg a sexual addiction.. Like every kind of addiction its often something deeply behind who get us to start...

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Planet Queen
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posted May 23, 2012 04:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Planet Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by popcorn:
I agree...This could be one thing which could trigg a sexual addiction.. Like every kind of addiction its often something deeply behind who get us to start...


Yes so true. I don't like to generalize people, but I've encountered or heard about people that are in the sex industry and they usually have been sexually abused or have problems relating to the gender that abused them. Also my friend in particular is a Pisces Sun and they are susceptible to deluding themselves of their true feelings/motives, especially if they have something very opposite like Aquarius Moon, which is the case with my friend.

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Geminisquared
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posted May 23, 2012 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
7th house Lust and Lilith conjunct my descendant house along with aphrodite and saturn in capricorn. Eros conjuncts my ascendant first house.

I had a problem when I first discovered it. I experimented with a friend and I could not stop after that. Sex has always been a big part of my life, Ive been pretty lucky a dogged couple of bullets.
I use to think about doing porn or working behind the scenes in the sex industry. I could not do that to my parents thou. I use to say to myself if thinks got really bad, I might do it

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Aquacheeka
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posted May 23, 2012 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mars-Venus in strong aspect will point to sex addiction, as well as Venus-Pluto conjunction or square.

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Aquacheeka
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posted May 23, 2012 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
'Shame' is an excellent film, leaves you with a feeling of unease, though. It seems so... pointless.

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Planet Queen
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posted May 24, 2012 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Planet Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
'Shame' is an excellent film, leaves you with a feeling of unease, though. It seems so... pointless.

Exactly, that is how I felt about Shame as well. It was really good, but also meaningless/pointless.

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Jovian
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posted May 28, 2012 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jovian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I recently have read up on Magi Astrology. It has many adherents, as well as detractors. Some of the stuff is quite compelling, I'd say.

They have come up with some aspects to look for, as far as sexual addiction.

The following info is taking from the informative site of "Magi Helena."
http://magihelena.com/magi_lessonsex.htm

"Degraded Sexual Aspect" is defined as inclining someone to sexual addiction.

Defined as having an important Saturn Midpoint, which Magi has as any of these:

Saturn-Chiron
Saturn-Jupiter
Saturn-Mars
Saturn- Neptune
Saturn-Pluto
Saturn-Sedna

...in aspect with both planets in a natal Sexual Aspect.

Magi Sexual Aspects involve Venus, Mars, Pluto, Neptune, Juno and Chiron.

“Male” Natal Sexual Aspects:
Venus- Mars
Venus-Pluto
Mars-Pluto
Mars-Uranus
Mars-Neptune
Mars-Chiron
Venus-Juno
Mars-Juno
Pluto-Juno
Juno-Chiron
Juno-Neptune

“Female” Natal Sexual Aspects:
Venus-Pluto
Venus-Juno
Mars-Juno
Pluto-Juno
Juno-Chiron
Juno-Neptune

I've parsed this info down a bit. Please read the link above, to get further clarity about what aspects are more powerful than others, according to Magi research.

(They do define different combinations of those aspects for men and women. However, I'd think these aspects in either gender's chart would seem important to consider. Somewhat black-and-white, as a lot of Magi prefers to be, but I take what is useful, as with everything.)

(Also, Magi suggests that we are best in relationships with someone with a similar amount of sexual aspects in their natal chart. The issue of sexual compatibility may seem less of a mystery, if you consider that some people simply have less sex aspects, natally ...sex is less important to them.)

Aspects used in Magi Astrology:

Conjunction
Opposition
Trine
Square
Quincunx
Parallel
Contra-parallel
Heliocentric Parallel
Heliocentric contra-latitude

Orbs is always 3 degrees, sometimes up to 4 deg, if multiple planets in formation.
Parallel/ Contra-parallel – 1.12 deg (if using the standard that numbers after the decimal reflect minutes out of 60)
Helio Parallel/ contra-latitude – 0.18 deg

Some celebrity examples having “Degraded Sexual Aspects”. Celebrities who have publicly admitted sex addiction or who are/ have been notable for their sexual excess:

Anthony Kiedis (Red Hot Chili Peppers): Venus CONJ Mars with Saturn-Jupiter MP
Bill Clinton: Heliocentric Pluto SQ Juno with Saturn-Chiron MP
Charlie Sheen: Heliocentric Venus CONJ Mars with Saturn-Pluto MP
Gene Simmons: Juno CONJ Pluto with Saturn-Jupiter MP
Warren Beatty: Venus QX Mars with Saturn-Chiron MP
Jesse James: Venus SQ Juno with Saturn-Chiron, Saturn-Neptune, Saturn-Jupiter, and Saturn-Pluto
Madonna: Heliocentric Venus/Mars/Pluto with Saturn-Jupiter MP
Tiger Woods: Mars SQ Juno with Saturn-Sedna MP


Also, a “Serial Cheaters” Aspect:

Aspects between Juno and Sappho.

Eliot Spitzer (former NY Governor caught with high-end prostitute): Heliocentric Juno OPP Sappho.
Hugh Hefner: Sappho Qx Juno; Helio Sappho TRI Juno
John Edwards (former North Carolina Gov. and Democratic Pres. Candidate, brought down by extra-marital affair scandal): Juno Parallel Sappho
David Beckham: Juno Contra-parallel Sappho
Jude Law: Juno Parallel Sappho
Madonna: Helio Juno TRI Sappho
Tiger Woods: Helio Juno TRI Sappho
Russell Brand: Juno TRI Sappho
Hugh Grant: Helio Juno TRI Sappho in multiple planet formation.
Donald Trump: Helio Juno Contra-latitude Sappho
Ryan Phillipe: Helio Juno OPP Sappho
Usher: Juno SQ Sappho


Magi Helena has this statement at the bottom of page:

"In my own practice, thus far it appears that not all people with natal serial cheater aspects actually are current serial cheaters, though people with these aspects are often 'serial flirts.'

"Again- natal aspects of any kind are no guarantee of behavior- this is a FREE WILL UNIVERSE. Anyone, at any time, can choose to succumb to temptation, or to grow, learn and heal enough to find a healthier way to operate."

Obviously, many of us have multiple sexual aspects, or these so-called “Degraded Sexual Aspects” or “Serial Cheater Aspects.” It is your choice how to manage yourself, as with anything.

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Jovian
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posted May 28, 2012 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jovian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Re: Locating Parallel, Contra-Parallel, Helio Parallel, and Helio Contra-latitude in Magi Astrology.

For anyone who finds the info I offered useful, I guess I should explain how to calculate these additional dimensions. You can get all this data at astro.com.

*Parallel* here refers to the geocentric Declinations, or location north or south of the equator. Normally, what is illustrated by a typical birth chart is the location of the planets longitudinally across the sky. Parallel (declination) measurements take into account the latitude each planet was in a birth (which if you think about it, would seem quite important, as well. You need two coordinates to know exactly where a planet is in the sky). When you bring up an astro.com chart, you can click on *View the additional Tables, PDF,* near the upper left of the chart. This will bring up a page that includes the placement of each planet in Declinations, with S or N after each one.

Parallel planets are equidistant from the equator and in the same hemisphere, in Geocentric declinations. Contra-parallel planets are equidistant from the equator, in different hemispheres.

For example, in the typical Geocentric chart (which is what most astrology focuses on)-the view of the sky from the earth), if I have Mars at 4.20 S and Venus at 3.18 S, they are considered *Parallel* in Magi Astrology (in the same hemisphere [north] and equidistant from the equator--within the required 1.12 degrees of orb for Geocentric Parallels).


Back at the Extended Chart Selection page, you can then select *Heliocentric* under Options --> Zodiac. You can assess the typical aspects (Conjunction, Trine, Opposition, etc) in the Heliocentric chart, but there is an *Earth* instead of a Sun. Then take the same steps to then bring up the additional info table for the heliocentric data. However, in this case, Helio Parallel / Contra-latitude refers to the data in the *Latitudes* column (NOT the *Declinations* column, as with Geocentric. Don't ask me the actual distinction between *latitude* and *declination* shown in the chart data--I don't understand the distinction yet.)

In a Heliocentric chart (view of the sky from the Sun), Mars at 1.34 N and Venus at 1.50 S would be considered *Contra-latitude,* since they are equidistant from Earth's ecliptical orbit, in this case, and within the required 0.18 degrees, but on opposite sides of the orbit.


So, you've got four dimensions to look at. Geocentric longitudes (the typical chart), geocentric declinations, heliocentric, and heliocentric latitudes.

It sounds more complicated than it actually is. I'm just a tinkerer, and this is how I know to go about finding the necessary data for Magi calculations. Perhaps there are more seasoned astrologers here who can add info. Also, it is fun to peruse www.magiastrology.com

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posted May 29, 2012 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lunatic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I cannot say I'm addicted but I get obsessed sometimes with the right partner. I have a lot of influence from Pluto AND 8th house stellium.Mars in Capricorn.

The interesting part to me is that I have got my most primal instincts and I have learnt more about my sexuality (i got interested in BDSM) while interacting with two women whose Mars conjuncted my Moon in virgo. 7th house. That's interesting isn't it?
I think uranus and mars in synastry makes me going too.

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Ami Anne
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posted May 29, 2012 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by alaz7200:
AMI ANNE,

I've been meaning to ask you for quite some time now, because I know how well-versed you are in Asteroids -- What is the significance of Terpsichore exact conjunct my Asc?

Thanks


Juat looking at this. I never heard if this one. Why don't you come to the Asteroid Forum and do a thread on it. I will try to help you out with it. Research the asteroid and put up the info on a thread in the Asteroid Forum.Please put the info, not links. x


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IndigoDirae
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posted May 29, 2012 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Well, I find that what Saturn touches, people feel obsessed about expressing--whatever it is Saturn touches. Mine touches Echo. If you know me, I am always screaming and crying about finding my identity

What do you think about Saturn conj Pluto. Do you have it?


Echo is identity? I'm not sure I agree with Saturn being obsessive. Pluto, of course. Saturn/Pluto midpoint -perhaps- but Saturn on its own? This has not proven the case in my experiences.

What can you tell me about Echo, however?

-A.


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5Gemini
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posted May 29, 2012 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 5Gemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon Taurus for females? Maybe when it is afflicted.

Women with afflicted Venus placements to the Moon and Neptune

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I'm so cappy
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posted May 31, 2013 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sexually active but should I be worried?

Moon in the last degree of Libra conjunct Scorpio Eros & Apollo, orb 2 (Eros-Apollo, 3 minutes)
Eros-Apollo conjunct Lust, orb 3

Lilith conjunct Nymphe, 18 minutes...LOL

Ishtar (goddess of fertility, love, war, and sex) conjunct Saturn, orb 2
Ishtar conjunct NN, 4 minutes
Ishtar square moon, orb 1

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posted June 01, 2013 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Nessus and Dejanira asteroids. 12th house placements of strong planets like Pluto and Uranus


I'm curious, why is 12H Pluto for sexual addiction? Sometimes I feel like a sex addict to be honest sometimes, lol. Pluto here does make me have a lot of self-control but it's also trine my Mars in Cancer. I feel the fall placement for Mars makes me more wavering in my sexuality so I'm not a full blown sex addict or anything. I'm just... obsessive. Totally obsessive! Is it really from 12H Pluto or, what do you think? I value your input.

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