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lilithpluto
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posted May 25, 2012 02:04 AM
  
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Originally posted by sand:
LOL I take it you noticed the similarity to hitler's??
lol..wow. hilter's chart! that's scary! Well, u shld hv a fb acc so i can spy on u.  yap hera! 007 here checked the charts lunch nw IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted May 25, 2012 01:18 PM
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Originally posted by sand:
LOL I take it you noticed the similarity to hitler's??
Actually yes, there are some similarities lol! Same Sun, Venus, Mercury and Jupiter placements both in houses and signs! Also that NN-Chiron conjunction!  But he was Libra Asc, Leo MC from what I saw. You really do have a powerful chart. I hope you will use it to do good.  I see your Neptune is far more aspected than his and I think that might prevent you from becoming a petty tyrant.  Interesting that the 84'er Bull I know doesn't seem to be all that keen on world domination or maybe I haven't asked the right qs  Which reminds me, theatre tomorrow.. I'm really more interested in Uranus unaspected in your 2nd house I have Venus unaspected. And your Uranus doesn't have a house to rule! Since Aquarius is intercepted. I also have Leo-Aqua intercepted in my chart but in the 1st-7th H axis. How do these play out?? IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted May 25, 2012 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by lilithpluto:
lol..wow. hilter's chart! that's scary!Well, u shld hv a fb acc so i can spy on u. yap hera! 007 here checked the charts lunch nw
Exactly my thoughts on FB account  . Great minds think alike hehehehe Okay, I did look a tiny bit, in the composite the only diff with the RL Bull is the Moon, but the Davison has totally diff Asc/H placements. I like the Jup-Neptune trines and sextiles!  Fun, fun! But oh poor Venus is badly aspected, not good.   IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted May 25, 2012 02:11 PM
He cancelled the theatre!!!! 
He claims he's got the flu and is in grumpy mood. But I don't buy it.
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sand
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posted May 25, 2012 08:37 PM
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sand
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posted May 25, 2012 08:39 PM
LOL FB! quote:
Originally posted by Hera:
Actually yes, there are some similarities lol! Same Sun, Venus, Mercury and Jupiter placements both in houses and signs! Also that NN-Chiron conjunction! But he was Libra Asc, Leo MC from what I saw. You really do have a powerful chart. I hope you will use it to do good. I see your Neptune is far more aspected than his and I think that might prevent you from becoming a petty tyrant. Interesting that the 84'er Bull I know doesn't seem to be all that keen on world domination or maybe I haven't asked the right qs Which reminds me, theatre tomorrow.. I'm really more interested in Uranus unaspected in your 2nd house I have Venus unaspected. And your Uranus doesn't have a house to rule! Since Aquarius is intercepted. I also have Leo-Aqua intercepted in my chart but in the 1st-7th H axis. How do these play out??
I just want a small 3rd world country. Yeahh I have no idea what that Uranus does. It's also a singleton, my only mutable planet. Doesn't have a house to rule? Yeah ur the first on to point that out! Uranus transits, especially the hard ones r horrible for me. I like parallels tho over the unaspected readings. I have 4 planets parallel to it which makes sense y transits are strongly felt.. Oh? I never get the flu lol! IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted May 26, 2012 01:15 AM
LOL, I already answered that and I have no idea what I said but it was pretty smart hahahaha. I can say that coz now there is no proof . I think he got my non-romantic vibes and didn't want to continue the cultural stuff either.  There was a tiny moment at the end of last date when we said goodbye and he was standing v close to me but I killed the moment intentionally.  Another good friendship ruined. I don't know why but I don't feel the Venus-Mars at all with him, v surprising. Only time I had double whammy M/V was with my Tau ex and even bystanders could feel the electricity between us. Crazy first sight attraction. Is your birth time exact? Well even if so, Uranus co-rules your 4th house. Do you feel the effect? Uranus co-rules my 1st house and underneath the proper Cap appearance I am quite the rebel. Leo co-rules my 7H and I def want someone I can be proud of and show him off.  Intercepted signs are underneath the surface but the pull towards them is stronger sometimes than the sign on cusp. How do u feel abt Aqua-Leo intercepted in your 4th-10th? I am very sensitive to transits to my Venus too. She's a singleton too (only earth) and only planet to conjunct an angle too. Venus is also a v sensitive point in synastry - ofc she usually is but moreso because unaspected. I think my weakness for Bulls is because of that. Do you feel the same abt Saggies or ppl with planets on your Uranus? IP: Logged |
sand
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posted May 26, 2012 12:23 PM
You best be sure about these moments coz I can be oblivious!! For me when girls look weird they wanna kiss! Yes my birth time is exact. Rebellious at home? I dunno. Could be living with groups, odd family members too right? My south node is in sag too. I dunno. In general their energy is to scattered for me. IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted May 27, 2012 12:30 AM
LMAO! Well actually that's a thumbs up for you, coz guys sometimes miss the opportunity and us girls have a hard time forgiving that. But no, I didn't want to kiss lmao and I don't think I left much room for interpretation. I don't know if that's why he cancelled though. Oh well. Rebellious is one way to look at it, could be groups, odd family members, yup, also unusual family arrangements, unconventional family education, sometimes absence/erratic presence of parents, science in the home, aloofness from one parent etc. But intercepted signs are behind the scenes. What really happened in your 4th house is Capricorn, Aquarius is the unseen, unadmitted part of your family life/home. Does it make sense? I see about Saggies. Yes, having your SN there makes it easier to tap into the energy so that helps. I meant the impact they have on you - powerful/not. They probably come into your life to help you deal with your unasp Uranus which is why you may perceive them as "scattered" - what is really scattered is your own expression of Uranus that seeks embodiment and it is mirrored in the people you meet that aspect your Uranus. Does that make sense? It takes a while to understand unaspected planets and intercepted signs (they're somewhat similar) and especially to feel them because they are hard to grasp. But what I noticed, IME, is that they are the ones that shine when you decide to go left or right (I mean important life decisions). IP: Logged |
sand
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posted May 27, 2012 01:34 AM
Oh iv missed a lot! I'm kind of frustrating lol. :/ Odd family members check! Odd family arrangements, perhaps. Erratic presence of parents check. Aloofness from one parent check! Sure it makes sense! Hmm.. I dunno all the saggies I know r relatives tho so i'm stuck with them. My grandfather, my dad, my grandma's sister, 2 cousins r all sags.. So underneath the cancer mc is a need for recognition? Something like that? IP: Logged |
sand
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posted May 27, 2012 01:39 AM
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"Jupiter/uranus/neptune/moon are all parallel this acts like a conj or stellium if you like. So if we build this with keywords.Jupiter- expansion, travel, higher mind, philosophy
Uranus - excitement wants to do something unsual
Neptune - sacrifices, spiritual, illusions, confusions and delusions...
Wherever your Neptune is, "is where you carry your cross and where you will be called upon to make a sacrifice!" True sacrifices are never usually recognised, or else they could turn into martyrdom!
Moon is how and where we seek nurturance and give it out, perhaps where we feel restless and enjoy changes. We could also say:
jupiter acts quickly with uranus to anything that sounds exciting, new and different.Moon seeks nurturance from spiritual matters and higher learning and jupiter gives faith and protection. Neptune makes sacrifices so sometimes you may not feel nurtured and not sure what direction you want to go in life How's That?? "
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sand
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posted May 27, 2012 05:05 AM
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Originally posted by lilithpluto:
lol..wow. hilter's chart! that's scary!Well, u shld hv a fb acc so i can spy on u. yap hera! 007 here checked the charts lunch nw
Jo, do u know how to do compatibility via bazi? What I like about it is the energies being given out are clearer. I'm western it's harder to know who gives/ takes in the relationship or for whom is it more beneficial. (I think) Compatibility is a really tough question to answer when it comes to BaZi. As much as I think BaZi is hugely valuable for the purposes of planning one’s life (and that includes your romantic issues and goals arguably), should it rule your life? Should it decide who you marry or date? Should it dictate how many kids you have?
Here’s how I look at it. We should all strive to rise above and beyond our BaZis when it comes to our weaknesses and negative points. At the same time, emphasise, utilise, exploit and make the best use of the natural innate talents and advantages given to us. In other words, work on the crappy parts, and play up the good parts.
Sometimes, you can go against a path that BaZi suggests because the pros outweigh the cons. Human beings sometimes like painful experiences – people call it character building. So BaZi should guide, but it should not rule. A bit like a benevolent dictator. And being, in the words of the famous song by Yes, the ‘Owner of a Lonely Heart’, for some people, is an inherent part of growing up, going through life, and maybe even, becoming a better person/spouse.
But back to the question of compatibility – there’s lots of dimensions to the issue. How does BaZi determine compatibility? Should you still be together/get married if it is shown that you are not compatible? How much credence should you put on compatibility?
Compatibility: the question of ‘Why can’t we all just get along?’
The word ‘compatibility’ is probably not quite correct in my view when it comes to determining if two individuals should commit to a relationship. I say ‘relationship’ and not marriage, because compatibility at its most basic level, is the question of whether or not you can get along with, work with, exist with, a particular person or a group of persons. It is not just people in a romantic relationship who need to consider the issue of compatibility. It’s anyone who is in any kind of relationship – the dynamics of that relationship can be anything from work to business, familial and professional.
If you think about it, everything in life comes down to relationship. We have a relationship with the postman, the shopkeeper, our staff, our parents, even our pets. Of course, it is ridiculous to check if you are compatible with your pet, and for that matter, it is not critical if you don’t get along with your milkman or postman. But the fact is, you define how you interact with these people by your relationship. And the more important the relationship is and the more significant the manner of your interaction, the more important the question of ‘compatibility’ becomes.
I don’t really like the word ‘compatibility’ when it comes to the more important relationships in life (like the person you chose to walk down the aisle with, or a person whom you chose to embark on a entrepreneurial venture with) for several reasons. ‘Compatibility’ implies that you might get along, even if you have nothing in common, because for some obscure cosmic reason, you will get along. It carries implications of begrudging acceptance, dour togetherness and quite frankly, it is devoid of the idea that emotions play a part too in our choice of relationships.
I personally prefer the word ‘connection’. It helps explain why certain people come into our lives at certain times, and why others never cross our paths again. It explains the whole six degrees of separation theory brilliantly. It puts a context to why we find ourselves hang out with people who seem completely polar opposite to our values, and of course, why the proverbial opposites attract. And well, ‘connection’ has a distinctly more romantic twang to it, and if you like, a greater sense of ‘cosmic invisible hand’ than ‘compatibility’ (again, which sounds super-dour and dry and just yuck!).
Should you find out if you ‘connect’?
I guess it depends on how cosmic zen you are. Most people will find it ridiculous to let elemental matters dictate their friends or whether they should work in Atlanta or DC. But when it comes to who they fall in love with, everyone seeks security in the all-knowing cosmos ☺
A compatibility consult can go many ways – consults rarely have a set format although students to BaZi usually find a format helpful to get them going. You have to keep the discussion fluid and dynamic, and help the person explore options.
I have told people they are not compatible with the person they want to marry. I have also gone outright to tell a person their choice is flat out wrong.
I don’t say ‘DON’T MARRY THIS ONE’ unless I seriously think the person is making a VERY SERIOUS MISTAKE. Most of the time, I take the view that it is a personal choice.
I think the key when you are not compatible based on the BaZi chart, is to proceed to the next step with your eyes wide open. In the instance of a less than compatible chart, I recommend the couple getting a BaZi consult so that they can understand each other better, and understand the challenges of being married.
Call it marriage/relationship counselling if you like. I just think of it as the next level up in getting to know your spouse and most importantly, knowing what you are getting. If you buy a prada bag, you can expect the prada standard. But don’t delude yourself into thinking you have a real prada bag if all you have bought is an A-grade fake.
Sometimes, I recommend waiting. If the romance is a transient one, nature will take its course and hopefully, there is one less divorce statistic.
Often times, people meet someone and proceed to the next level because of the transient influences of the year’s elements (especially if it happens to be a Peach Blossom year). Sometimes, they cruise into the relationship because the elemental influences of a Luck Pillar induce what I call ‘romantic complacency’. You drift into the relationship passively, rather than actively chose to proceed forward. (this is when the guy says ‘so, um, maybe we should get married’ and the woman says ‘well, we have been dating for a while so…I guess so’ – DING!)
So should you find out if you are compatible with someone? Yes if you are working on the basis that you don’t want to waste time on a relationship that will go nowhere or worse, is not ultimately fulfilling. No, if you simply are curious and there’s nothing wrong with the relationship. Yes, if you are looking to better understand your Other Half, and the challenges of being together. No, if you just want to satisfy your curiosity!
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Hera
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posted May 27, 2012 05:48 AM
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Oh iv missed a lot! I'm kind of frustrating lol. :/ Odd family members check! Odd family arrangements, perhaps. Erratic presence of parents check. Aloofness from one parent check! Sure it makes sense! Hmm.. I dunno all the saggies I know r relatives tho so i'm stuck with them. My grandfather, my dad, my grandma's sister, 2 cousins r all sags.. So underneath the cancer mc is a need for recognition? Something like that?
Oh lol! It is frustrating, to be honest! So frustrating that with my Taurus ex, I had to take matters into my own hands.  It was uncomfortable as hell and terribly vulnerable spot and I hated that, but I had to know lol. Yup, need for recognition should be higher than usual. Ofc it is with Moon there, but even more so with Leo intercepted. Read Sun as co-ruler of the house. IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted May 27, 2012 05:53 AM
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Originally posted by sand:
[QUOTE]"Jupiter/uranus/neptune/moon are all parallel this acts like a conj or stellium if you like. So if we build this with keywords.Jupiter- expansion, travel, higher mind, philosophy
Uranus - excitement wants to do something unsual
Neptune - sacrifices, spiritual, illusions, confusions and delusions...
Wherever your Neptune is, "is where you carry your cross and where you will be called upon to make a sacrifice!" True sacrifices are never usually recognised, or else they could turn into martyrdom!
Moon is how and where we seek nurturance and give it out, perhaps where we feel restless and enjoy changes. We could also say:
jupiter acts quickly with uranus to anything that sounds exciting, new and different.Moon seeks nurturance from spiritual matters and higher learning and jupiter gives faith and protection. Neptune makes sacrifices so sometimes you may not feel nurtured and not sure what direction you want to go in life How's That?? "
[/QUOTE]Hahaha, I have the same configuration, they're even parallel my Asc and my Nodes too! But in your chart, Moon is contraparallel. That is like an opposition to the Jup-Ura-Nep stellium. Sorry, it seems like your Moon doesn't get easier aspects in declinations either.
But for Uranus, that's good news, you'll be able to access it via parallels. You're lucky in this regard, I don't have parallels to my Venus. IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted May 27, 2012 05:55 AM
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Jo, do u know how to do compatibility via bazi?
That should be interesting! *grabs popcorn* ~all ears/eyes IP: Logged |
lilithpluto
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posted May 27, 2012 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by sand:
I just want a small 3rd world country.
Lol. Sand, you are weird. quote:
Originally posted by sand:
Jo, do u know how to do compatibility via bazi?
Interesting question. I dun know how to do compatibility in bazi. I only know, who will benefit me if I marry them and who if I will benefit him if he marries me. lol. My knowledge is too little to know more; bazi to me atm is not about romantic feelings and idealist love story which is why i never use it for love. I prefer western astrology synastry and composite when it comes to love. I'm a hopeless romantic ya know. IP: Logged |
lilithpluto
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posted May 27, 2012 10:34 AM
I believe I told you before... my shifu has a weak Ji earth DM with too many metals in his chart.. His LP isn't that fantastic either to help him gain wealth. He needs more earth and fire, not found in his LP. I'm a Gui water DM with many fire elements born in Wei Earth month. If we marry, I bring wealth to him but I will probably earn much lesser. His shifu asked if I am willing to accept that, I replied "hell no" too fast.. in front of him.. after that, he become hesitant in pursuing me. Truth is, I'm a softy in love. If he has more courage and confidence, I really dun care about money.. Maybe he worries I will blame him next time. lol. IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted May 27, 2012 04:42 PM
Lol, LP! The guy is probably intimidated by you lol. May I ask who will benefit me and who will benefit from me, pls? I wanted to start studying this after your reading but now it's not a v good time. Soon, though - I hope. *off to bed, it's been a long diff day* IP: Logged |
lilithpluto
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posted May 27, 2012 09:37 PM
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Originally posted by Hera:
Lol, LP! The guy is probably intimidated by you lol. May I ask who will benefit me and who will benefit from me, pls? I wanted to start studying this after your reading but now it's not a v good time. Soon, though - I hope. *off to bed, it's been a long diff day*
I know he is intimidated... But I was just being honest. I wasn't in love with him yet.. Interestingly, we have sun-mercury-Venus conjunction exact square by Saturn in composite. Talk abt unrequited. Okie, I'll take a look at yr chart when I reach home! IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted May 27, 2012 10:53 PM
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Originally posted by lilithpluto:
I know he is intimidated... But I was just being honest. I wasn't in love with him yet.. Interestingly, we have sun-mercury-Venus conjunction exact square by Saturn in composite. Talk abt unrequited. Okie, I'll take a look at yr chart when I reach home!
Thank you! 
The sq from Saturn isn't necessarily unrequited. It can be, yes. I have seen the aspect there in every unrequited story I know of, personally. But sometimes makes things really difficult to get off the ground, delays ppl coming together. Still, there's a love stellium. I didn't have that v often. Only 1 I remember right now was the Sag. No guarantee it will last or actually be good for you either... It's v hard to say what it takes for each person to last and make it work.. IP: Logged |
lilithpluto
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posted May 28, 2012 02:48 AM
^^ yeah.. no aspects guarantee it will ever last..... that's sad...btw, will u check out johnny depp n vanessa's progressed or transit charts? i didn't like what i saw, but mayb you will see differently. lunch nw but still astrology crazy. where's sand? IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted May 28, 2012 04:53 AM
I'll look hun, but don't know when. I'm having a couple of crazy days at work and have been putting reports off for too long. Sandie.. lol.. prolly ditched us for another girl But he'll be back, Bulls usually come back. No? IP: Logged |
sand
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posted May 28, 2012 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by lilithpluto:
I believe I told you before... my shifu has a weak Ji earth DM with too many metals in his chart.. His LP isn't that fantastic either to help him gain wealth. He needs more earth and fire, not found in his LP. I'm a Gui water DM with many fire elements born in Wei Earth month. If we marry, I bring wealth to him but I will probably earn much lesser. His shifu asked if I am willing to accept that, I replied "hell no" too fast.. in front of him.. after that, he become hesitant in pursuing me. Truth is, I'm a softy in love. If he has more courage and confidence, I really dun care about money.. Maybe he worries I will blame him next time. lol.
When u say many metals what are you looking at? The element calculations in chinesefortunecalendar? ..or the elements in the actual chart? What am I metal with many fire? And I'm here LOL just reset my iPad and took abit of awhile with it.. IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted May 28, 2012 10:15 AM
WB Sand!
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Hera
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posted May 30, 2012 12:57 PM
Okay, NOW he's back again. I mean the RL Bull. With yet another minor health problem (Sandie, are you a hypocondriac as he seems to be??) and he wants to talk (most likely completely neutral).
This is the third time and while I don't mind helping ppl (it's why I chose this afterall), I have to wonder... what is this about? Is he taking advantage? Or is this the hot-cold blow you were talking about in the beginning? What's the purpose of that btw? Confusing the adversary lol? For what?? lol
Either way, I've had a long tough day and I don't do earwax so I referred him to another colleague which he might not have liked (but I also didn't like missing the theatre - I didn't feel like going either after he cancelled). IP: Logged | |
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