posted May 20, 2012 09:02 PM            

My second question has more to do with the workings of my chart. I wasn't sure if it needed to be moved over to Personal Readings, so if it does and I didn't - apologies. I was wondering why it's hard for me to take the initiative in social situations even though I think about it. I rarely feel relaxed, or like I don't have to think about everything going on around me or interpret and read between the lines. It's a little bit like living with paranoia, except you're practical. You just feel trapped emotionally.

Third! And lastly, how much of a role does my IC play in my personality? I feel it very strongly and wondered why.

That was much too long winded for my taste, but I needed to get my point across!

ETA: Just saw the chart I posted. Please ignore the transits.

posted May 20, 2012 09:26 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I say "ish" because my first question will include more people than just myself! I have Venus in Aries, but I also have Venus in the 11th house, square Neptune in Capricorn in the 7th house. Now, since we all know Aries is a "do first, think later" sign would you say it magnifies the effects of Venus sq. Neptune? Would the individual with Venus in Aries fall FASTER in love coupled with the square? How do they foster and work together?

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I would say yes,because Venus in Aries is such a position that would fall in love at first sight and faster then any other venus sign yes.

I have venus in Aries close by to yours as well except mine is in the 7th.I also have the square between venus in Aries and neptune in capricorn also exact.I tend to fall in love with the person and prefer not to even know them.It is strange i think because neptune confuses my perception of what love is,i tend to confuse myself with love and it plays out that way in my mind.

I think it does give a greater effect to falling in love faster because the square between these two tend to give fast look on love but also a mixture of a definte confusion by it.i often times do not understand why i feel such intense feelings when i don`t know the person.it is all just in my head.

posted May 20, 2012 09:31 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:

My second question has more to do with the workings of my chart. I wasn't sure if it needed to be moved over to Personal Readings, so if it does and I didn't - apologies. I was wondering why it's hard for me to take the initiative in social situations even though I think about it. I rarely feel relaxed, or like I don't have to think about everything going on around me or interpret and read between the lines. It's a little bit like living with paranoia, except you're practical. You just feel trapped emotionally.

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I can defintely see your moon taking effect with this one.Mainly because taurus is a practical and easy going sign.but since it rules your emotions you may feel like you want to project something out there into the world but taurus being so reserved of a sign you don`t always get a chance to express how you feel.

Also noticed the moon opposite pluto aspect.to be honest you have practical meets intense and reserved so again you might find it hard to express things.you might feel like what your thinking about is too intense to be put out there.

posted May 20, 2012 09:36 PM            

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Originally posted by DepTaurus:
I would say yes,because Venus in Aries is such a position that would fall in love at first sight and faster then any other venus sign yes.

I think it does give a greater effect to falling in love faster because the square between these two tend to give fast look on love but also a mixture of a definte confusion by it.i often times do not understand why i feel such intense feelings when i don`t know the person.it is all just in my head.

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Okay okay... trying to organize my thoughts here 'cause I'm getting so many routes at one time.

One, I experienced what you described a LOT when I was younger but then I went through a karmic friendship with someone and I haven't felt deeply or as intensely about anyone after that and I don't know if I will or can ever again. It wasn't love or anything, but my feelings towards people changed after that. Two, how do we know when Neptune is being a trickster and when it is something spiritual? How does Neptune spirituality and spiritual connections play into a Venus square? Could that be why you/we feel intense feelings for them?

posted May 20, 2012 09:42 PM            

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Originally posted by DepTaurus:
I can defintely see your moon taking effect with this one.Mainly because taurus is a practical and easy going sign.but since it rules your emotions you may feel like you want to project something out there into the world but taurus being so reserved of a sign you don`t always get a chance to express how you feel.

Also noticed the moon opposite pluto aspect.to be honest you have practical meets intense and reserved so again you might find it hard to express things.you might feel like what your thinking about is too intense to be put out there.

Mercury square saturn is a huge part in this as well same with the square to neptune.with saturn your communication is restricted so when you want to say something or voice an opinion you shy away because of what might be said back to you.with neptune it just confuses you to the point where what you want to say comes out in a mixed way and or never comes out the way you wanted it too.

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I knew Taurus was a "shy" sign, but I've met Taurus moons and suns and they were never shy! In fact they acted quite Arian, the moons being more calm than rambunctious but there was still a vibe of tranquility present. I never feel that, and I certainly don't exude it. I suppose that opposition is very strong because the thing I hear most often is I'm intimidating. Even after people get to know me.

I also always knew my Mercury squares were there but I've had many people poo-poo them because of the "orb." To me though I don't take orbs into account. I think if you have the aspect then it's probably present somewhere, somehow, some way. For someone with Mercury in Aries I'm very good at holding my tongue though so perhaps those squares are a blessing. Neptune does confuse me a LOT but I prevail.

posted May 20, 2012 09:44 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Okay okay... trying to organize my thoughts here 'cause I'm getting so many routes at one time.

One, I experienced what you described a LOT when I was younger but then I went through a karmic friendship with someone and I haven't felt deeply or as intensely about anyone after that and I don't know if I will or can ever again. It wasn't love or anything, but my feelings towards people changed after that. Two, how do we know when Neptune is being a trickster and when it is something spiritual? How does Neptune spirituality and spiritual connections play into a Venus square? Could that be why you/we feel intense feelings for them?

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for you,you have neptune in the 7th already so it always is a trickster on how you view things in a relationship.Neptune in the seventh house can make you want to have a spiritual connection and it can be karmic in relationships so maybe that is why you feel the spiritual connection in a relationship.

i think in a spirtual way neptune in a square with venus tends to give off sort of an all or nothing sort of thing.where in a relationship you either go to an extreme spiritual connection and that is what you feel and want out of a relationship or you go the opposite direction and it would not even apply.that is how i see it,but you might have different opinions.

posted May 20, 2012 09:52 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I knew Taurus was a "shy" sign, but I've met Taurus moons and suns and they were never shy! In fact they acted quite Arian, the moons being more calm than rambunctious but there was still a vibe of tranquility present. I never feel that, and I certainly don't exude it. I suppose that opposition is very strong because the thing I hear most often is I'm intimidating. Even after people get to know me.

I also always knew my Mercury squares were there but I've had many people poo-poo them because of the "orb." To me though I don't take orbs into account. I think if you have the aspect then it's probably present somewhere, somehow, some way. For someone with Mercury in Aries I'm very good at holding my tongue though so perhaps those squares are a blessing. Neptune does confuse me a LOT but I prevail.

What do you do when you have these squares though? Push past the fear? And does the feeling of restriction EVER fade?

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haha funny you should mention that you think taurus suns and moons are never shy.I am a taurus sun 26.31 and i am extremely shy also my decan is ruled by saturn so i am restricted in showing any type of out there personality.

i think with any taurus/scorpio opposition it comes across as intimidating,i would also go forward to saying any opposition between the other fixed signs also play out as intimidating to most people as well.

i agree about the orb refrence if the aspect is there regardless of the size it applies.i have mercury opposite pluto and it applies at 8 orb.then again you have to know what you think effects you and not what others think effect you.

posted May 20, 2012 09:59 PM            

you do have mars transiting in your fourth right now.have you noticed any aggression in the family or home life you have right now?

posted May 20, 2012 10:02 PM            

first question:

yes, Aries falls in love faster than most usually, Aries is aware of what it wants quicker than other signs, since venus is also a representation of what we want by style or way, aries makes this passionate and an immediate want.

squaring Neptune also means that you Idealise your lover fast, and perhaps don't always base your love on clear vision, i.e. you may project what you feel or perceive your partner as, but your perception might be a classic blur from the real image.

Your Moon-Pluto aspect, coupled with mercurial asc and mars would explain your habit for looking between the lines. (particularly pluto for psychology, depth, looking at what lurks beneath the surface, the innards)

Gemini ASC/Mars for the fact that mercury is related to communication, so maybe you turn your pluto energies attention and focus, (efforts) into what people SAY or How they SAY it.

as for your social anxiety, this is classic feelings for Venus & Saturn in hard aspect (square in your chart)

it usually means you will feel inhibited, limited, confined. it will make it difficult for you to securely reach out to others and trust they will be receptive to your attempts, a fear of rejection - be it they not liking you, or accepting you or your ways/values.

this might make you in return, a bit stern and rejecting of others, or you push people away sometimes. you may be prone to testing lovers over and over in order to beleive they can love you truly. (testing them with rejection) - this would assure you they mean it when they claim they want you or love you?? ?

security and trust might be problem for you.

expressing love, showing appreciation, may not be eeasy for you.