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Topic: How important are overlays in a synastry??
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lovehate122
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posted May 21, 2012 02:53 AM
  
like if you have a stelium in somebodies 5th house ?
and what happens if someone does not have any planets in say their 8th house but you have venus in their 8th ?? does it still count ?
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Doux Ręve
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posted May 21, 2012 02:58 AM
Very important, crucial even.There's still debate as to who feels what though. I used to think that the house person feels the energy more, but now I'm not so sure. For example, I have noticed that when someone's planets fall in my 8th, they tend to be more "interested" in me than I am in them. I think the planet person wants to play out that planet according to the house of the other person, for example, someone puts their Mars in your 5th, they'd probably see you as a romantic interest, and you in turn, feeling their desire, could reciprocate or not the feeling. Still, there are hardly any rules, so the entire chart needs to be considered! IP: Logged |
Lotis White
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posted May 21, 2012 03:18 AM
I'd say extremely important.However, take into account not just the planets in houses part, but also how the house rulers interact. For example, if someone has planets aspecting you 8th house ruler... even if they don't have any planets in your 8th house, you will still feel the effect of having that house activated by the other person. IP: Logged |
Doux Ręve
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posted May 21, 2012 03:31 AM
Lotis 
Very true.Also, consider the condition of the house ruler, if it's afflicted things can get tricky, because the energy may be bothersome rather than pleasant. IP: Logged |
starmoon
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posted May 21, 2012 01:53 PM
hi. i believe synastry overlays are important and definitely draw to you a person, whether it turns out romantically or not. i have my venus in my partners 1st and moon in his 5th and it's hard to tell who feels it more, but... i think i've come to my own unscientific conclusion that the planet person feels it more. with one of my co-workers i have my mars in his 8th, my moon in his 5th, and my venus, jupiter and neptune in his 7th. we are very friendly with each other, but it's me that keeps the friendship alive and blossoming - i get the impression he wouldn't come around me if i didn't hang around him. so, my opinion is that the placements are having the effect more on me (the planet person), although he is very open/receptive to the friendship.IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted May 21, 2012 02:03 PM
Agreed, overlays are important.
But always to be considered together with aspects.I noticed that someone`s Sun, moon or whatever in my 7th leaves me completely cold unless they have strong aspects to my other planets. IP: Logged |
Lotis White
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From: USA
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posted May 21, 2012 04:08 PM
quote:
Originally posted by starmoon:
i think i've come to my own unscientific conclusion that the planet person feels it more.
This is actually a topic of quite a lot of debate. I’ve been into astrology since about age 13 and for a long time was utterly convinced that the house person always ‘feels’ it more because that had been my experience. To me it seemed that the planet person was able to wake up the house person to that area of life, and was able to bring themes connected to that house to the foreground with in the relationship. This first came to my attention upon noticing that when a guy places planets in my 5th house, or aspects my 5th house ruler, it generates a sort of romantic excitement, and infatuation within myself for that person… even if the person is female often there is something about another women with planets in my 5th that I admire. And it just built up my theory from a process of observation from this point… But…. It was actually from lurking around at Lindaland for about the last 5 or 6 years that I’ve started to see that sometimes the planet person can feel it too, and strongly so. I would read threads on this site for a long time before I finally joined. And I found that not everybody’s experiences with house synastry panned out with the house person simply feeling the energy of the planet person, and being influenced and inspired in that area of life. There were a few posters every now and then who would describe experiences, usually romantic in nature, where they were pursued by someone who had a bunch of planets in their 7th , 5th or 8th houses, and they felt little attraction in return. It was as if when the planet person had their planets in one of the traditional ’romantic’ houses (the 5th, 7th and 8th) in overlay, they felt it was their role to be the lover/partner/seducer for that other person, like it was some kind of ‘calling‘.
Overall, though, I’ve still found the most common experience is for the house person to feel for the planet person. But sometimes, for whatever reason, the script gets flipped, and it is the planet person. As much as we’d all like to have guarantees in life about exactly who feels what there unfortunately aren’t any. Astrology can show if there is a strong possibility that someone will fall for you, and that is all it is. A possibility. There are so many real life factors that come into play. Another thing I’ve seen on this site is lot of posters having a rant about some type of unrequited love situation. They post things like: “Why does he not love me when my Moon is in his 7th house and we have Venus/Pluto, and Moon/Mars” and so on. Well, since it is somewhat unpredictable as to weather the house person or the planet person feels it more, perhaps it is also the same for planetary aspects. You can have indicators or love and attraction between two charts and yet for some reason, karma or fate, one person falls and the other doesn’t. Now, this does not mean that astrological indicators of liking and love and all that do not ’work’. In fact I’ve seen many, many times that they do and can in a mutual and powerful way, as in both people feel it and want to be together. It just means that in terms of what we know of astrology so far, there is no way to guarantee with any absolutes who will feel it more. To some extent we just have to accept the element of unpredictability and make do with educated guesses….
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Lotis White
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posted May 21, 2012 04:17 PM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Agreed, overlays are important.
But always to be considered together with aspects.I noticed that someone`s Sun, moon or whatever in my 7th leaves me completely cold unless they have strong aspects to my other planets.
Ceridwen, this is an important point. Yeah, when someone puts there planets in my 7th or 5th house for example, but they don’t make any aspects to my planets and are kind of just sitting in the middle of nowhere aspect wise, it leaves me unaffected as well. If there are aspects there that’s when I start to feel it and actually notice the other person. IP: Logged |
vansio
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