posted May 21, 2012 08:37 AM            

I had a small reading from Rosalind and this is not a critique. However, I have been pondering the following for two weeks and it disturbs me.

First of all, this is my natal chart. I won't bother with synastry and composite because if I post that, the first thing I know, this thread gets moved.

I quote in whole and not selectively. Let me break down the comments that trouble me.

Uranus RX in 7th house. You are prone to unstable relationships and divorce. I wont say you are going to divorce just that you have those aspects. Ruler of 7th is in 11th. Your wife is also your friend. But the ruler of 12th falls in 7th house. In my opinion, this is bad. For now this is the only thing I can tell you.

This one doesn't trouble me that much because I know I can control it. What is also missing from the picture is that all the Uranus aspects in my marriage have been absolutely wonderful. We have Uranus to Venus, Jupiter, Pluto, Moon and Neptune. I won't go into my marriage story again about how quickly and strongly it was, and how different we are in terms of background, culture, and yet seemingly the same.

All I will say is that I'm never going to divorce, and the same with my wife. Divorce is against our religion. Same with re-marriage. We will also never re-marry. We marry once for eternity. If we are forced apart by some event, we will deal with it and overcome.

I don't know about ruler of 12th House falling in 7th House and its bad implications. Perhaps you can enlighten me.

Next thing I don't like is the position of Saturn in 12th. Saturn here forces you to know suffering. Saturn is like NN a karmic point (planet) so you have a karma of suffering. Saturn here is also an indicator for your depression. You probably had those wonderful things in your life because of Predictive Astrology. You may had good progressed aspects or happy transits but as you can see its temporary.

This one troubles me a lot more because it is true that I am prone to depression. For all the happy things in my life, I've never been truly happy. Even with having God in my life, I have never been content. I don't know if it is my Sun Square Jupiter aspect, but I'm never satisfied with anything. I would get a 100 on my college exam and I would ponder why I didn't max out the extra credit for the A+. I naturally don't like the part about "Saturn forces you to know sufferring." To me, Saturn is a natural part of being a Capricorn, and it is Saturn that has brought me success. Perhaps I place too much credit in Saturn, but without discipline, I wouldn't be anywhere close to where I am now. My "Zuckerberg" moment hasn't arrived yet, but I am close, and I want to get there. I still beleive that it is Saturn that will get me there.

Another issue is that I don't understand the concept of "karma."

Another thing: Venus in 12th, ruler goes to 7th. Again bad. All 12th house matters, your karma, your suffering and your depression, all those bad things can ruin your relationship with your wife, family etc. Also, because the 7th house represents open enemies and 12th house the hidden one, you should be very careful in your bussiness.

First of all, I don't have a business, and that is intentional. I'm just an employee,, albeit well paid.

Is my Venus that bad? I tend to suffer quitely, but yes I am prone to depression. I am not concerned about the statement that it may wreck my relationship with my wife and family because I can control that. I just didn't know that Venus in 12th is that odious.

Anyway, I can go on and on, so I'll stop here.

posted May 21, 2012 08:49 AM            

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Again, this is not a critique of Rosalind's comments. I'm just trying to understand the basis. Without understanding the background, I cannot implement a remedy.

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posted May 21, 2012 08:57 AM            

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Saturn is in the 12th house. This indicates hidden Karma. Saturn may make you feel depressed during harsh transits. Saturn is also quincunx your Moon exactly, and this can cause emotional suffering and depression if you allow others to dictate your self worth to you. The worst aspect of Saturn is the exact square to Venus which is a constant dampener for a good love life and an obstacle for a happy marriage. You have to forgive and release these hidden karmic debts to overcome this ill effect of Saturn in 12th.

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Anyway, a well paid employee may be better than a barely making-ends-meet business owner. Its just what one is good at. So I guess interpretation still applies?

posted May 21, 2012 10:00 AM            

No, I know my marriage will last forever. We will make it last because personal will power will trump some astrological chart. *I* will make it last forever. Like I said, you don't understand the level of determination and will power I have to make things happen.

You cannot base my life solely on an astrological chart when you don't know me. That chart doesn't tell it all. You don't know everything that has gone through my life, and you don't know the struggles I have overcome. That chart does not say it all. It will never say it all.

posted May 21, 2012 10:22 AM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Sorry, I don't mean any offense. In fact, I posted out of respect. If I didn't respect you, I would ignore what you said totally and dismiss it.

No, I know my marriage will last forever. We will make it last because personal will power will trump some astrological chart. *I* will make it last forever. Like I said, you don't understand the level of determination and will power I have to make things happen.

You cannot base my life solely on an astrological chart when you don't know me. That chart doesn't tell it all. You don't know everything that has gone through my life, and you don't know the struggles I have overcome. That chart does not say it all. It will never say it all.

Just as an example. We know that my Saturn is transitting my 8th House. I told you that I'm receiving my bonus in June and I have a contractually guaranteed minimum payout. You said that solely on the basis of Saturn in the 8th House, my bonus will be delayed. You mentioned possibly the Fall or later. You said there are money issues and I may not get my bonus. I spoke to my lawyer immediately upon reading what you said. She calmly told me that she would very much like my employer to delay my bonus. We'll sue for 20 times the minimum guaranteed, plus 20 times that as punitive damages, and settle for 10 times the amount. In actual fact, my bonus numbers were just announced. They are record numbers, naturally, since I had a record year. I had several industry leading "global deals of the year." They were much better than I expected. Saturn transitting 8th House obviously means something else that has not been captured.

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posted May 21, 2012 10:28 AM            

Then with your psychic abilities, you have already seen my marriage ending in divorce?

Please don't go. At least answer that question.

What else do you see concerning money?

posted May 21, 2012 10:30 AM            

8th house is your wife's finances/material wealth as well. Uranus is going to conjunct your Jupiter in the 2nd house soon which can indicate something unexpected related to your wealth. It could mean a sudden gain or loss (Jupiter is a benefic so a gain is likely).

posted May 21, 2012 10:30 AM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Rosalind,

Then with your psychic abilities, you have already seen my marriage ending in divorce?

Please don't go. At least answer that question.

What else do you see concerning money?

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posted May 21, 2012 10:39 AM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Please do understand that I don't question out of doubt. I question out of curiousity. No offense was intended. If I had doubt and were offensive, I wouldn't have asked. Just dismissed. So, please don't get the wrong impression.

I'm equally hard on everyone, if not harder. This is just my style.

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posted May 22, 2012 12:06 AM            

Back in the days doctors would round off times.. Which is a killer.for astrology.

posted May 22, 2012 06:38 AM            

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Originally posted by ariesdragon:
Rosa did you see the divorce in the aspects or from your psychic abilities? I am really curious...if you saw from an aspect could you please explain which aspects suggests this? If it was a vision how did it look or feel? Thank you...

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It doesnt matter what I saw. YTA said already that he's working on his future. Who am I to tell otherwise?

posted May 22, 2012 08:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
YTA, no offence, but since you are so religious, how come you believe in astrology? I thought astrology is a like magic in the Bible, isnt it? And God said according to Bible that magic and other divination science is forbidden. Also, why do you ask about karma? Karma is another thing that doesnt exist in religious people mind. They dont believe in reincarnation just in hell and heaven.

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Rosalind,

With all due respect, who said that I believe in astrology?

I'm here mainly for the social media aspect. I have developed some friendships, and I have learned to deal with my friendships while gaining a superficial understanding of astrology.

I read the Koran and go to mosques once in a while to gain a better understanding. That doesn't make me a Muslim. And doesn't mean I subscribe to it. Likewise for Buddhism.

I do read the Torah everyday. It's called the Old Testament in my religion.

Yes, I am curious, and that is a bad thing. I'm here against my wife's wishes. If she knows, she will kick my asz.. and I think she does already know and keeps quiet because I don't proclaim trust or faith in astrology, and don't encourage it in others.

Yes, I said I don't understand the concept of karma because I don't believe in it.

Yes, the Bible says divination is the work of the devil, and that all forms of astrology are inherently evil, whatever the intent.

Yes, I don't believe in reincarnation or previous lives. That much I am strict about. I suppose that extends to the concepts of Soul Mates or Twin Flames.

I'm not some "goody two shoes" and I don't pretend to be some sterling religious example. I inherently fall short of all standards. Neither am I trying to be evangelical in this forum, although that is part of my life's mission.

posted May 22, 2012 08:59 AM            

But people can live a long time even with weak organs; a marriage can last forever even with flaws.

Now the psychic vision is a whole other matter, and I agree with ariesdragon that if we are going to take that into consideration, it'd be nice to know more details.

But still, since no one really knows Rosalind well enough to test her psychic ability, let's just take everything with a grain of salt.

posted May 22, 2012 09:24 AM            

The "three wise men" in the story of Jesus's birth are said to be astrologers.

You can google "astrology and the bible" and you'll get a bunch of references.

posted May 22, 2012 09:35 AM            

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Originally posted by ariesdragon:
Rosa did you see the divorce in the aspects or from your psychic abilities? I am really curious...if you saw from an aspect could you please explain which aspects suggests this? If it was a vision how did it look or feel? Thank you...

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posted May 22, 2012 09:35 AM            

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Originally posted by amowls**:
Ami is Christian and believes in astrology. They're not antithetical.

The "three wise men" in the story of Jesus's birth are said to be astrologers.

You can google "astrology and the bible" and you'll get a bunch of references.

I mean, think about it. The Church (as an institution) has a compelling motive to condemn astrology because it offers people a different path to God that doesn't involve giving money to the Church.

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posted May 22, 2012 09:40 AM            

I believe in the good things - so I can emphasis on the magnitute and harvest the most of the goodness; I am aware of the bad things - I believe nothing controls me (Leo bow down to no one), not fate. Isn't prevention after knowing the bugs, glitches and loopholes in a masterplan makes succeeding sweetest?

Nothing is ever written in stone. If it is, there is no point living a life that we have no control over.

posted May 22, 2012 09:49 AM            

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Originally posted by lilithpluto:

Nothing is ever written in stone. If it is, there is no point living a life that we have no control over.

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posted May 22, 2012 09:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Reading Rosalind's original comments, I get the impression she is talking about tendencies and vulnerabilities within the marriage.

But people can live a long time even with weak organs; a marriage can last forever even with flaws.

Now the psychic vision is a whole other matter, and I agree with ariesdragon that if we are going to take that into consideration, it'd be nice to know more details.

But still, since no one really knows Rosalind well enough to test her psychic ability, let's just take everything with a grain of salt.

'Not trying to criticize you, Rosalind, just saying, we cannot know how reliable you are without knowing you better.

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posted May 22, 2012 10:23 AM            

Merely stating who I am and what I believe. It's not my place to question.

I know I would be kicking the hornet's nest, but a question was asked, and I answered the question.

It's cool to hang out here, but it doesn't mean I subscribe to everything that is said in here, or anything at all.

But like I said, there are certain things in life that I hold sacred. Belief is one of them, and it's non-negotiable. Marriage is another. There are others as well.

I really do think that cursing my mother, God bless her soul, is less hurtful to me than condemning my marriage.