posted May 23, 2012 07:06 PM            

I don't actually know what to say or why I'm typing this.
I feel really personally affected by the Venus Retrograde... I don't really understand why - since it does not aspect much in my chart - other than an opposition to Uranus.
The transit is in my 12th house.

Why is this affecting me so much? I feel like every negative thing that has ever happened in my love life (and with friends) is just coming back to me - and I keep remembering things - and it's giving me the worst headache.

But that's not all ^... because it is not just past things coming back -- It is also *present* things going haywire and people just being way too aggressive.

Does the retro Venus - sometimes play out - as an increase in aggression and arguments? Venus is the planet of balance & diplomacy - being able to strike an *agreement*.. I guess a weak Venus - leaves Mars with a bit TOO much power & influence..

How is the retrograde affecting you?
Is it just me feeling this way?

posted May 23, 2012 07:21 PM            

She said they were together some time ago and there is still something between them and she wanted to sort things out with him - and that it would be really nasty of me to get involved.

I didn't even KNOW about them at ALL.. I had no idea - and he is the one who keeps calling me and wants to see me.

So what the hell!

Also on Facebook - I have them both on my list and I am getting the feeling that he feels pestered by her.. because she keeps posting things to him and he never answers her - and he never even 'likes' her comments.. almost like he is intentionally avoiding her.

I just feel bad about the whole thing because - I'n too Neptunian for stuff like this. I am not catty. I don't want to hurt anyone. Obviously she is upset and she wants to be back together with him - so I just feel like I should stay away form him now.

I don't like this situation at all.

I don't want to reject him either because he'll just wonder *why* - when so far I've always been open to whatever he suggested & he knows I kind of like him back. If I reject him - I have a feeling he'lI think I've led him on or that I'm playing games with him or something else.

posted May 23, 2012 07:24 PM            

I'm sorry you're feeling that way. Honestly, I'm not going to lie, for me, the 12th house transits can be some of the worst, only because it just has the effect of dredging up so much past stuff- and with a planet retrograde too, that's like double the crap coming up. The opp to Uranus won't help either, only because lots of things will come up suddenly and out of the blue. The arguments might also have to do with the explosiveness of Uranus, I would think. Sudden arguments and people coming back that you thought you kicked out of your life (along with emotions you probably thought you had dealt with already).

As for how the retrograde is affecting me... *knock on wood* I've been having the best time that I've had, probably in years. Part of that though, is because I've finally extricated myself from all of the negative people that were in my life, and I'm simply focusing on myself and my goals. Also, I think I've finally healed a lot of my old inner wounds (The eclipse happened on my natal Chiron, and I'm thinking that the retro Venus will be close to conjuncting it maybe). My current fear is that, finally, after I kicked all of these people out, that at least one of them is going to somehow come dragging his feet back into my life, begging for forgiveness, but doing nothing to deserve it. SO FAR, that has not happened. *knock on wood again*

The current Venus retro is in my 7th house. It started retrograding at my North Node, and it was opposing my Neptune, and squaring my Mercury (barely). So far, all quiet on the western front for me, but I also have a natal Venus retro, so a lot of the time, I actually have a fairly easy time of it. The last Venus retrograde period (2009 I think?) sucked for me though... It was after my progressed Venus had finally gone direct.

posted May 23, 2012 07:32 PM            

See, the 2009 retro put me into the middle of *several* love triangles too. I, luckily, was able to get myself out of those, but that was just by virtue of the fact that I could distinguish the truth from the fiction.

As for your situation... Technically the guy isn't with that other girl. How well do you know the girl? Is she the type to get super possessive about someone who isn't even with her (and probably won't be)? It does sound sketchy. Keep your eyes open, but remain skeptical for both sides, I would say. It sounds like he could have lead HER on, and now she's got this idea that there is something more going on with them. I wouldn't let her guilt you though.

posted May 23, 2012 10:45 PM            

I know this isn't what you want to hear, but sometimes we have to remember the greater wide world here; for example, the Venus RX is probably what's bringing your friend's explanation regarding your Scorpio crush. I'm not saying there's no potential for the two of you dating. I'm saying I'd DEFINITELY let her sort whatever it is out that she feels she needs to do, so that it's DONE, and IF you decide to date this fellow, you don't have THAT hanging over your head.

And since this IS looking a bit triangular, I'd check your natal placement of Lilith, as well as transits.

Speaking of transits ... since it's through your 12H, it's a good time to take some serious me-time. Clear your head. Give yourself time to think without everything and everyone influencing you. Unplug for awhile. To a much lesser extent, I ALWAYS do that right around my mom's birthday, and it drives her insane - but that's when the Sun's going through mine. When Venus does, it's even more pronounced. And retro? You need some serious you-time!

posted May 24, 2012 01:04 AM            

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and people just being way too aggressive.

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posted May 24, 2012 01:07 AM            

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posted May 24, 2012 01:51 AM            

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Originally posted by Hera:
LMAO! Gifs are fun, maybe I should give them a try. I feel old.

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nothing like a good gif to turn that frown upside down...

hopefully i wasn't degrading this post and taking away from the seriousness of it.

it does suck....and yes ppl are def being more aggressive on the one hand...but on the other...personally i'm starting to see how my actions might be seen as agressive as well....
but it's too late...i'm in total war mode right now.. I WANT BLOOD... bAD!!!!

posted May 24, 2012 03:02 AM            

T.Saturn is coming up to conj n.SN opp n.Venus, and then conj n.Pluto in the 5th. Could be a relationship overhaul or break going on since the Saturn/Pluto combo throws away non-essentials, in your 5th could mean an approach to love that has outgrown its usefulness. It'll be at 0 Scorp opp your Venus around Oct 5th. When it gets closer to Pluto I think you'll have a clearer head on what is vital for you in this area and what can be left behind regarding your entire approach but usually the Saturn/Pluto combo is painful, the acknowledgement of the circumstance, that is, but it can also be like a baby with the bathwater scenario, so I would say be mindful of how much and of what you throw away. You don't want to be left w.nothing. The Saturn/Neptune combo you have is sort of in the same realm in a sense, bearing down on any illusions you have with relationships, asking you fig out what is real and salvageable to make that dream come true. The Venus/Neptune increases sensitivity/vulnerability as does the Moon/Saturn. Moon/Mars just puts your attn on these matters with a sense of urgency. It'll be p.Moon conj n.Neptune soon enough, brings its own funny haze where you wander about in the dream you have whether or not it's 'real life' or not is really of no matter, ha, but yours is in Capricorn so you want to give it a secure foundation. P.Moon through the 7th brings an urge to partner anyway, since you're refining what you want in a relationship, how you screwed up in the past re:choices that you made and what you want in the future, it can make you pretty needy. But whatever choices you make, make good ones, because when p.Moon goes through the 8th, around the time t.Pluto will be closer to sq n.Sun, you will be feeling the ramifications, heavily.

posted May 24, 2012 03:19 AM            

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And since this IS looking a bit triangular, I'd check your natal placement of Lilith, as well as transits.

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posted May 24, 2012 03:25 AM            

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it's really not your problem - sounds more like she doesn't understand her situation and needs to work through that. Her asking you not to date him is actually quite selfish and immature. She has no right to do so, they're done, she needs to accept that. I'm sorry if I sound a bit harsh, but it is what it is.

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posted May 24, 2012 09:00 AM            

Yesterday I woke up pretty awful (I didn't even know about the retro venus position) while being confronted with past relationship hurt.
This has everything to do with my current 'crush' (wrong word prob. as we have a true every-day connection for months now without any doubt about each other).
So.. I woke up terribly and I saw the whole mess that I went through with my ex repeated in a new future with him. Fears fears fears.... so sending him txt mssg's about a completely damaged *me* by past relationship sh*t while he was at work..

I didn't exactly get the *attention* I wanted so I felt THE END ..

I called my EX (after 6 months of not contacting him while I promised myself to never call him again) ... he was so glad I called but.. I didn't like (the tone of) his voice anymore... completely felt the reason of why we broke up and with that a final THE END of me & ex.

An awful day-story ended in the night; I got all the attention I wanted after work.. LOVE & *confirmation* (all I needed and missed with ex).

R-venus is going through my 10th (can't relate that or it must be "bothering at work") and in an applying trine to my Mars (= square my moon).

(Can't be a coincidence that I wrote a reply yesterday on the "Magi, anyone..?" thread about my ex and our terrible Magi-placements )

posted May 24, 2012 12:34 PM            

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posted May 24, 2012 01:09 PM            

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i'm in total war mode right now.. I WANT BLOOD... bAD!!!!

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OMG, you're onto smth here! I've been a lil more aggressive than usual too, not cutting ppl slacks like I do most of the times, bahhhh. Had an argument with a friend of mine today, well she's no longer a friend from my point of view because she betrayed me but she seems to have fogotten all about that lol! So I gave her a little piece of my Mars-conj-Mercury in Aries and told her we're no longer friends and to only speak to me about professional issues. She didn't see it coming and had the nerve to be the one upset hmph but hey... she's reaping what she saw. It's all good with me, I'm actually relieved for finally telling her what I think.
But it's not just women I've argued with, men as well. I have very little tolerance for their inconsiderate behavior and well, they're getting a piece of my mind as well.
Overall I find this transit liberating. It's happening in my 5th house. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, and I crave babies!! I wanna be a mamma. I want babies. Lots. Lots and lots of happy cute cuddly babies with their clear beautiful eyes and small hands and feet and that smell.......... ohhhhh... kill me now. Another reminder that my biological clock is starting to expire.