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Doux Rêve
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posted May 27, 2012 07:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi guys,

I'd like to know if you feel "wide" squares, natally. I know the Sun & Moon can have wider orbs, but what about the other personal planets? Do you have a square that is 7°,8° or more, that you feel still has an effect, or is that too wide to be considered?

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Ami Anne
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posted May 27, 2012 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great question. I don't know the answer. I would think that some squares would have an ambient effect, at least. It may depend on the planets and how much they are aspected in your chart. I bet an unaspected planet(or few aspects) may feel it more.

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depth
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posted May 27, 2012 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for depth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I stick to tight orbits, maximum 5.
Follow progressions to see when the square is within orbit.

I can give you the classical view on orbits.
Sun is 7.5
Moon is 6
Mercury's 3.5.
Venus is 4
Mars is 4
Jupiter's 6
Saturn's 5
Uranus, Neptune & Pluto were not known back then. It's presumed that traditionalists would've accepted an orbit of 3 deg.

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Nine
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posted May 27, 2012 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes.

The closer orbs are more insistent & in your face. The wider ones are operative, but feel a little foreign, projected even as though coming from the outside.

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Doux Rêve
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posted May 27, 2012 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by depth:
I stick to tight orbits, maximum 5.
Follow progressions to see when the square is within orbit.

I can give you the classical view on orbits.
Sun is 7.5
Moon is 6
Mercury's 3.5.
Venus is 4
Mars is 4
Jupiter's 6
Saturn's 5
Uranus, Neptune & Pluto were not known back then. It's presumed that traditionalists would've accepted an orbit of 3 deg.


How come Jupiter & Saturn are allowed wider orbs than Mercury, Venus & Mars?

That's definitely not how I see things, but thanks for the input.


@ Ami & Nine, I agree with you.

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Hera
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posted May 27, 2012 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do. I have a 9 deg sq of Saturn to my Asc that I feel. I have a 10 deg orb opp of Sat to my Mercury that I also feel. Out of sign too. I've always been pro wider orbs.

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posted May 27, 2012 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I have a 7 and 8 and I feel them both quite strongly and one of them is very active in my life.

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Ceridwen
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posted May 27, 2012 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dunno.

I think most of the times there are other aspects with a similiar symbolism simultaneiously at play, and that strengthens the experience of a certain aspect.

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amowls**
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posted May 27, 2012 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have one between Venus and Mars but it gets drowned out by my 0 degree square between Venus & Saturn/Uranus.

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posted May 28, 2012 08:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Nine:
Yes.

The closer orbs are more insistent & in your face. The wider ones are operative, but feel a little foreign, projected even as though coming from the outside.


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Hera
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posted May 28, 2012 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:

I think most of the times there are other aspects with a similiar symbolism simultaneiously at play, and that strengthens the experience of a certain aspect.


I agree. It is sometimes diff to say where the energy is coming from, indeed.

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Doux Rêve
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posted May 28, 2012 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you all for the input, guys.


I think houses play a role in the dynamics, as well. For example: Pluto aspects - 8th house; Mercury - 3rd house, etc.

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Ceridwen
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posted May 29, 2012 03:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, they do.

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Doux Rêve
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posted May 29, 2012 03:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Thank you for confirming!

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VenusDiSirius
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posted May 29, 2012 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes,my Merc. (mercury can work wide squares)

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