posted May 28, 2012 12:52 PM            

I wonder if YOU transform the people you encounter in the domain of that house? I pose that to you, as well.

Now, I will talk about how Pluto transforms you based on the House in which it resides. Get your charts and see if you agree.

Pluto in the 1st House—- You have leadership ability. You feel like a leader in that quiet, but powerful ways that leaders so. Picture a cop striding to your car when you have been caught speeding. That is Pluto in the 1st.

Pluto in the 2nd House—You will be transformed through material needs. Usually, material needs will be sparse. You will struggle greatly until that struggle turns into transformation

Pluto in the 3rd House—You will be transformed from some interaction with your mind and/or your communications. This house rules siblings and neighbors. One may be transformed by having to overcome a learning disability. One may be transformed by a tragedy happening to a sibling.One may be transformed by happenings in one’s neighborhood. Usually, transformation occurs through pain. If not, why would we change?

Pluto in the 4th House– You will be transformed by a turbulent early home life.

Pluto in the 5th House–You will be transformed through romantic relationships and/ or creativity.

Pluto in the 6th House– You will be transformed by service to others and/or health conditions.

Pluto in the 7th House– You will be transformed by serious relationships.

Pluto in the 8th House—You will be transformed by having to deal with emotional and sexual taboos.

Pluto int he 9th House–You will be transformed by religion and/ or spirituality.

Pluto in the 10th House—You will be transformed by society and/or career.

Pluto in the 11th House–You will be transformed by groups( and you will probably transform groups, as wee)

Pluto in the 12th House—You will struggle with your primal emotions not being accessible to you. This could foster emotional, sexual or mental problems as Pluto is the powerhouse of one’s primal energy. The 12th house turns it backward. Picture a damn holding back water. That is Pluto in the 12th.If this is your Pluto, find a good friend to whom you can unburden yourself. This Pluto may be a powder keg of emotion which could be turned inward to one’s detriment or turned outward, to others detriment.

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posted May 28, 2012 12:54 PM            

Do you understand my question?

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posted May 28, 2012 01:50 PM            

So good to see you!

Pluto has been driving me NUTS! I have Rx Pluto in the 7th House - Libra no Less...

Every serious relationship I've been in has transformed me; and I know that those I've felt so strongly for have also been transformed (most often for the better - transcending their own issues - and going on to lead happy, fulfilling relationships)...

Yet, I remain, continually connecting VERY seriously with loves who have their Mars conjunct my Pluto. So, I continue to stay attracted to the same man - while the type I was attracted to evolves to realize there is a better way to be. They usually all beseech me to take them back, marry them, or something that sounds romantic (but is ridiculous in actuality) - and in the end - carry the lesson forward for some lucky maiden.

I know I am in their hearts always carrying a special place. But I long so for someone to share my life with...not just to train for another.

If I sound particularly bitter about this - it is of note that Pluto is transiting my Venus AND MC currently - 2/4 degrees Cap right now. And roughly squaring itself. Transiting Saturn has for 2 years been tracing all over my Pluto...so I'm fairly annoyed with this 7th House Libran placement.

Anyways - I know you're always looking for input to learn more - you lovely Gem/Cancer.

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posted May 28, 2012 04:52 PM            

Matthew 15:11 "Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man."

Proverbs 25:11 "A word fitly spoken is like apples of gold in pictures of silver."

posted May 28, 2012 05:02 PM            

I admit that I have been accused of having mental problems, by the very people who have abused me and done me no good.

I have been depressed on and off for a number of years, and suicidal at times.

I have been empowering to other human beings who are willing to give into death, throw in the towel, but I don't do this for my own self.

When the dam gives out, I am a force to be reckoned with. I am more powerful in speech, ideals, and presentation than any of the men who I have ever met.

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posted May 28, 2012 05:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
No Darling. NOTHING is ever too straightforward for me!

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posted May 28, 2012 06:00 PM            

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If you knew me better, you would know that I am the Queen of telling it like it is

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posted May 28, 2012 06:06 PM            

I, for one, will help anyone find out who they are from the charts.It is my passion, actually!

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posted May 28, 2012 07:24 PM            

The difference with Pluto is that more than transformation, Pluto is the planet of SELF-REGENERATION. With Pluto in my 6t house, I do well without doctors. I am able to find the means to heal myself without going to doctors and hospitals.

If I apply this principle to other houses, if you have Pluto in the 1st house, I would think that you are able to craft your own appearance and you are able to fight for yourself and you are a formidable opponent.

Pluto in the 2nd house would indicate that you are able to singlehandedly make your own fortune, with very little help from others, or you have the uncanny ability to use others to create your own wealth.

posted May 28, 2012 07:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
I think every house in which I have a planet transforms me. Pluto is in my 6th house, and yes I get lots of transformation through work and health, but I have planets in my 5th, 7th, 8th house and I will say that I have been transformed by them too.

The difference with Pluto is that more than transformation, Pluto is the planet of SELF-REGENERATION. With Pluto in my 6t house, I do well without doctors. I am able to find the means to heal myself without going to doctors and hospitals.

If I apply this principle to other houses, if you have Pluto in the 1st house, I would think that you are able to craft your own appearance and you are able to fight for yourself and you are a formidable opponent.

Pluto in the 2nd house would indicate that you are able to singlehandedly make your own fortune, with very little help from others, or you have the uncanny ability to use others to create your own wealth.

And so on...

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Belage -

This is SUCH an interesting interpretation of Pluto's nature! One would think with Pluto in 6th House, you'd be somewhat screwed (pardon my bluntness); but you are able to harness the power of Pluto to care for yourself...

Hmmm...
I have Pluto in 7th House, and while others are transformed by relationships with me to a MAJOR extent (we're talking Sun Progression type changes) - though I learn from them, I carry on as myself. Remain true to my nature, evolve at my own pace.

I'm wondering also if this has to do with the decanate placement of Pluto?

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posted May 28, 2012 07:38 PM            

When I had a group of friends, I was always the leader. If the group did things I didn't like, I left rather than sell myself out.

I think this is how Pluto is.

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posted May 28, 2012 07:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Wild Places:
Belage -

This is SUCH an interesting interpretation of Pluto's nature! One would think with Pluto in 6th House, you'd be somewhat screwed (pardon my bluntness); but you are able to harness the power of Pluto to care for yourself...

Hmmm...
I have Pluto in 7th House, and while others are transformed by relationships with me to a MAJOR extent (we're talking Sun Progression type changes) - though I learn from them, I carry on as myself. Remain true to my nature, evolve at my own pace.

I'm wondering also if this has to do with the decanate placement of Pluto?

Mine is 19d Scorpio - ruler Neptune's 12th House of Pisces is empty...Is that how decanates work? Or do I look to where my Neptune is for a clearer understanding for transformation through relationship? My Neptune is in Sagittarius - and the two I've ever known, I've fallen in love with at first sight. Much to my own shagrin.

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With Pluto in the 7th house, the house of the OTHER, house of marriage, house of adversaries and opponents, you probably tend to date and are drawn to very Plutonic individuals, and since this is also the sign of Scorpio, this is compounded. You will use marriage or partnerships to transform and regenerate you, and I would also say that fighting with other people transforms you. A word of caution there, as Scorpio is ruler sex and death.

posted May 28, 2012 07:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
It is weird how I have never sold out to a group, though. I can't do it. When I was in college, I did not join a sorority because I was at a low confidence point and the idea that I might have to conform to things in which I did not believe, horrified me.

When I had a group of friends, I was always the leader. If the group did things I didn't like, I left rather than sell myself out.

I think this is how Pluto is.

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posted May 28, 2012 07:47 PM            

For example, I am a Cancer moon and mars and I sold myself to my mother for her approval. I ditched my identity because I wanted a close family so, so badly. Here I was very weak. I just love closeness of family. It is in my DNA. I have not spoken to my mother in 7 months, as she was destroying me but I hung on until I almost died. However, in groups, I was strong. Must be Pluto, as you said.

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posted May 28, 2012 08:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
With Pluto in the 7th house, the house of the OTHER, house of marriage, house of adversaries and opponents, you probably tend to date and are drawn to very Plutonic individuals, and since this is also the sign of Scorpio, this is compounded. You will use marriage or partnerships to transform and regenerate you, and I would also say that fighting with other people transforms you. A word of caution there, as Scorpio is ruler sex and death.

I don't know much about decanate, so I can't speak on that question...

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Yup...fighting does happen in my relationships (particularly when there's been a Pluto/Mars conjunction). It sucks. In the midst of it - I am only able to see how right I am - until it is over - and then I do experience transformation of the utmost kind. It's very painful, to realize that so much energy is wasted in that way...

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posted May 29, 2012 06:41 AM            

I want to add another question--are you strong in the house in which Pluto resides?

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posted May 29, 2012 06:48 AM            

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Pluto Transforms You Using The House in Which it Resides
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I wonder if YOU transform the people you encounter in the domain of that house? I pose that to you, as well.

Pluto in the 10th House—You will be transformed by society and/or career.

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Personal experience, I would say a resounding "Yes", especially when it comes to the work place environment. Strangely enough, it doesn't seem to have anything to do with what I say or do but more to do with my presence.

I tend to have an effect on companies, taking them from laid back and relaxed to professional and uptight. Not always a good thing, but a definite transformation takes place. After experiencing this time and time again, I even took a job that specifically requested that sort of transformation... my presence and thoughts shaped them into a well rounded professional team... taking them from a 20k a year company to a 400k a year company.

- (Want to add) A month after they fired me they dropped back down to 40k a year. muwhahahaha

This happens all the time, it makes me hesitant about getting jobs, because I REALLY like the laid back environment.

The place I volunteer over the spring went from being a small family run business for 70 years, to pulling in people from two states away after she hired me. Making enough money to take care of her disabled son, sending her kid to an elite college, and buying up the entire block that they live on. Not sure if that's just a coincidence or what, but it's just another example.

As for society... mmmm, haven't experienced it yet, but it'd be interesting to see.

posted May 29, 2012 09:20 AM            

I was brought up in a cocoon & then came a time when I was pushed into the forest to fend for myself. I'd a utopian view of human nature & society. So when I saw the real world, I simply couldn't function. Where I lived, there weren't any religious fanatics, bigots or power & money mongers. But this new place is extremely volatile &....So I withdrew. From generous to stingy. Friendly to hostile. Social to self-contained. Honest to diplomatic(plunging straight into deceit at times). I metamorphosed into someone I never thought I'd be. All my ethics went down the drain(and they are still in there floating). Survival instincts successfully preceded & now, every time I think of Saturn hovering in my 10th in a few years, I go *shivers*. The idea of getting back to my original self just doesn't seem practical. I'm moving out of this place after two years & the prospect is scarier.
However, I sometimes do wonder if it's lack of personal space(I stay in a convent) that's mostly responsible. I can't stand people around me for long, esp. the same faces. Gets me cranky! Maybe, that's why I'm withdrawing.

posted May 29, 2012 02:34 PM            

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Personal experience, I would say a resounding "Yes", especially when it comes to the work place environment. Strangely enough, it doesn't seem to have anything to do with what I say or do but more to do with my presence.

I tend to have an effect on companies, taking them from laid back and relaxed to professional and uptight. Not always a good thing, but a definite transformation takes place. After experiencing this time and time again, I even took a job that specifically requested that sort of transformation... my presence and thoughts shaped them into a well rounded professional team... taking them from a 20k a year company to a 400k a year company.

- (Want to add) A month after they fired me they dropped back down to 40k a year. muwhahahaha

This happens all the time, it makes me hesitant about getting jobs, because I REALLY like the laid back environment.

The place I volunteer over the spring went from being a small family run business for 70 years, to pulling in people from two states away after she hired me. Making enough money to take care of her disabled son, sending her kid to an elite college, and buying up the entire block that they live on. Not sure if that's just a coincidence or what, but it's just another example.

As for society... mmmm, haven't experienced it yet, but it'd be interesting to see.

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Totally Sashar! This is what I think. I am coming to this about Pluto, the more I explore him, here. Thank you

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