posted May 28, 2012 05:03 PM            

I was thinking about it and how much that makes sense for all my experiences with pluto squares, whether it be in synastry or composite.

It seems that there is strong chemistry but both people come on so strongly because of the intense feelings, that the gut reaction is to react in a way that's like "Ok, stop, weirdo. I don't like you that much."

I've experienced a composite sun square pluto crush with at least 3 guys in the past year, and with every one of them, it was so intense that I wanted to run away. I think both of us did because we both came off so strong that we couldn't handle the intensity. One guy was super clingy with me, like to the point where everyone noticed he liked me and it grew uncomfortable for everyone involved. lol. Because of how incredibly obvious/intense he was about it. Another guy would act super shy around me but then randomly smile at me from across a table or open a door for me when I least expected it, in like a really grandiose, I'm obviously doing this because I like you, way. And another guy would stand around campus just staring at me in awe. Another guy added me on facebook and still chats me once in a while, even though we only exchanged a "hi." But our eye contact said more than enough when we did. I liked all of them back, but like I said, the interplay was so very uncomfortable and there were so many power struggles where we refused to surrender to the relationship, that it never happened.

So, I was thinking, and I feel that's what pluto squares are really all about. Neither person wants to SURRENDER to the relationship, because it just feels too vulnerable, like you're losing control. If you think about it, Scorpio is about surrendering in love relationships and making the other person surrender, so it makes sense.

Then, what I noticed is that with venus or moon trine pluto versus venus or moon square pluto, the trine feels slightly less intense, but that means that the two people wont react to each other in a way that is socially awkward and which they feel they cant control, and so they find it natural to surrender to the relationship. It flows smoothly. Slightly less intense, but still feels awesome

What do you guys think? I'm sure everyone is as fascinated with pluto as I am

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posted May 28, 2012 10:06 PM            

I struggle when in relationships to maintain my own identity and my personal power..
I dont want to be the "girl" I need to be the other half of an equal part...
I wont surrender my control of myself... I dont really want to control "him" but I wont be controlled either..
I want to be equals in the true sense of the word... 50/50
When I was married, I always helped out with house maintenance, painting building the entertainment center...etc etc
He would help out with cooking and laundry and such...
That really worked for me.. I couldnt do the "typical wife role"

posted May 29, 2012 12:02 AM            

Aquaguy, i know we've talked about this. haha. I hate it too :/ meh

posted May 29, 2012 12:19 AM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Thank you for sharing Lioness! That was sooo interesting i love it

Aquaguy, i know we've talked about this. haha. I hate it too :/ meh

Sand, yep it sucks lol. I hate the vulnerability too lol but I kind of like it cuz it really does change you.
It's powerful. But when isn't pluto?
I know that you say it would be hard for you to hide it when u feel that intensely, and im sure for those guys I mentioned it was hard to hide it, and it was hard for me to hide it as well, but the thing is it's scary when actually thinking about surrendering to that person and actually being in a relationship with them because you feel so out of control. I'm specifically talking about composite sun square/opp pluto and venus square/opp pluto in synastry or composite here, by the way.

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posted May 29, 2012 01:12 AM            

anywho'z yeah thats sort of the case with me. i feel they are more scared or shocked by it than i am. like two of the guys i can remember shaking. But i do definitely run away too lol

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posted May 29, 2012 02:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Lioness:
RAS.. I totally agree... I have Natal Pluto in H7, so all of my relationships are Pluto themed..

I struggle when in relationships to maintain my own identity and my personal power..
I dont want to be the "girl" I need to be the other half of an equal part...
I wont surrender my control of myself... I dont really want to control "him" but I wont be controlled either..
I want to be equals in the true sense of the word... 50/50
When I was married, I always helped out with house maintenance, painting building the entertainment center...etc etc
He would help out with cooking and laundry and such...
That really worked for me.. I couldnt do the "typical wife role"

BUT!! and yes there is a but... What I have learned is that Pluto will keep nagging and pressuring you, UNTIL you do surrender...
Someone or something will come along and change all of that...
You will be forced to change your self, or suffer from it...
I fought it and fought its been HeLLLL..
But now I realize its Ok to be the "girl"
Being female is a beautiful thing..
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But I havent forgotten I am woman, hear me roar

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