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Topic: Does Neptune Lies hurt more?
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Lioness
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posted May 28, 2012 08:39 PM
  
Today fishy confessed a lie he had told me years ago..
It was a superficial lie, he had NO reason to lie to me... It wasnt even a question I asked he just straight told me this lie years ago.. It bothers me deeply that he lied, what he lied about doesnt even matter, the fact is that he lied to me... He said it was just a joke, and it went bad on me... We discussed it, I overall told him I will let it go... But Im having a hard time, doing that...
It really really effected my trust I have for him... IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted May 28, 2012 11:35 PM
The more I think about this, just putting everything together... It bothers me more and more...
Is this the neptune fog clearing??
I'm so upset...
How can I trust anything he says..  He asked me to accept his apology, I said yes ok.. But idk if I can let it go... IP: Logged |
12thhouser
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posted May 29, 2012 12:49 AM
Sorry to hear that you're so hurt. A few questions:
What aspects does he have to his Neptune? What aspects do you have to yours? In your synastry chart, what aspects do you each have to each other's Neptunes? In your composite, what aspects are there to Neptune? IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted May 29, 2012 01:00 AM
Oh we have crazy neptune.. His lie was so superficial, no reason whats so ever to lie...
It was like saying he likes to ride bikes, but then confess he s never ridden a bike...
That's just an example of the type of lie it was..Synastry
My neptune to him
conjunct moon
Sq sun
Trine jupiter His neptune to me
Conjunct mc
Trine sun, moon,merc Composite
Neptune h7
trine venus
Sextile mars
Sextile moon. IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted May 29, 2012 01:05 AM
His natal neptune aspects
sextile mars
Sextile pluto
Sq saturnMine are
sq mars
Quinx venus IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
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posted May 29, 2012 01:06 AM
Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies!IP: Logged |
Tofu addict
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posted May 29, 2012 02:02 AM
It's more than likely fantasy, we call it lies, for the neptunian folks it is not so clear cut, their boundaries are so vague, that the lines between if it really happened or not are unimportant. It could be even an experience from a dream or past life that comes up and they present it as an event in this life, they might not even know that it stems from that, it just comes out, what harm done, it is not something that is distrustful, just a way their mind works.IP: Logged |
Delilah
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posted May 29, 2012 02:53 AM
What about your progressed synastry for around the time that he lied to you? It sounds more like he was just trying to kind of impress you, maybe show that he's a little more interesting than you think or prove that you have something in common. Also, how tight are the orbs? The looser, the better things can be worked out. IP: Logged |
12thhouser
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posted May 29, 2012 05:37 AM
Lioness,Haven't you said before that you idolize fishy? Not to sound mean, but maybe you're taking this harder than you ought to? That can be the downside of a heavy aspected Neptune, making way too much out of some innocuous lie. I know you said it was the fact that he lied that hurt you so much, but if you get like this over what you said was such a little lie, just imagine how crushed you'll feel when it's about something much more important. IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted May 29, 2012 08:57 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Delilah:
What about your progressed synastry for around the time that he lied to you? It sounds more like he was just trying to kind of impress you, maybe show that he's a little more interesting than you think or prove that you have something in common. Also, how tight are the orbs? The looser, the better things can be worked out.
Im not sure about progressed synastry at the time of the lie... It was maybe 2 or 3 years ago, but Im not sure of the time frame.. It wasnt meant to impress me, it was just a matter of fact thing.. I was neither impressed or felt it matter, it was like Ok.. good to know...
BUT he kept the lie going the entire years.. Until bam he just blurts it out... Which is another story... It was really really bad timing.. We were getting to a new level, and then he wants to confess and it sent me back 5 steps...
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Lioness
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posted May 29, 2012 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
Lioness,Haven't you said before that you idolize fishy? Not to sound mean, but maybe you're taking this harder than you ought to? That can be the downside of a heavy aspected Neptune, making way too much out of some innocuous lie. I know you said it was the fact that he lied that hurt you so much, but if you get like this over what you said was such a little lie, just imagine how crushed you'll feel when it's about something much more important.
YEAP I idolize the heck out of him... Doesnt mean I cant get upset with him...
Instead of me being mad, I was hurt...
I felt as if he destroyed my trust, my faith..
IDK If I can get that back.. A friend of mine, with some good advice said it wasnt the lie, that was so wrong, cuz it was no biggie.. It was the way he confessed, which is why Im having a hard time letting it go....
Thats what I wonder, if when you find out about "neptune" lies doesnt it have a deeper impact.. Cuz if someone else would have confessed the same thing, I probably would have laughed.. And said REALLY??? Thats a dumb thing to lie about...
But this just hit me right in that spot.
It really kicked my butt...
But Im trying to work through it...
I semi talked to him today... Its going to take me time..
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Delilah
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posted May 30, 2012 03:18 AM
I get where you're coming from. You should be able to have complete trust in the person you're dating. It does seem like he's starting to fall from his pedestal. With Neptune, you need to force yourself to see every little crack. It's not always a big deal, but Neptune makes it hard to see the other person for who they are, which is human in every sense. I'm not trying to put words in your mouth (I've been there with Neptune with the same aspects, except my personal planets formed the square to his Neptune), but elaborate more on the aspects. There's always idolization when Neptune is involved. With the trine and sextile, you can accept each other for who you are. However, with the conjunction, square, and opposition you see what you want, not necessarily what's standing in front of you. Neptune is tricky becuase it's not always the Neptune person who "lies" or "deceives" the other. They could have been brutally blunt about their flaws, but you (general you) chose not to see what they were talking about and projected this ideal image onto them. The Neptune person may have been uncomfortable with this after enjoying being held up so high. They know that if they don't stop the worship built on lies, then the relationship can be doomed because the fog always clears in time. Unfortunately, it doesn't matter if they told a tiny white lie, when the other person finds out they feel deceived on a much worse level because their god is nothing more than a person with crappy magic tricks. From the perspective of the personal planets person, when the Neptune person feels that they've been lied to it stuns the person with the personal planets. Example: My best friend's (guess I should say former now) Neptune squares my Sun and Moon. I've always been honest with her, but she somehow built this image of me being like superwoman. I'm not- very far from it actually. I enjoyed that I had someone who was always there for me and talked me out of committing what would have been felonies. Lol. Things were great until I started to have a bit of a nervous breakdown. Her image of me was shattered because she thought that I had this strength that I didn't. Soon after, we didn't talk nearly as much as we used to. It's actually been months since we had a conversation. For me, it was and still is devestating how quickly things changed. There is a feeling of rejection because I didn't unconsciously or consciously keep up this image. So, as much as you feel betrayed by his lie, he'll feel the same if you pull away and not know why especially when he's tried to just be himself with you. IP: Logged |
popcorn
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posted May 30, 2012 04:21 AM
On a dejting phase I dont trust any man. If a man want win a womans heart at the beginning they allways exaggerate and not tell us the real true. Thats my experience. The real true will be showing after a while.IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted May 30, 2012 07:12 AM
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Originally posted by popcorn:
On a dejting phase I dont trust any man. If a man want win a womans heart at the beginning they allways exaggerate and not tell us the real true. Thats my experience. The real true will be showing after a while.
A man with a list of serial accomplishments and self confidence wouldn't need to exaggerate, let alone lie. No man needs to "win" any woman's heart. You make men out to be desperate animals. I myself don't need to "win" any hearts. Either women like me or they don't, and if they like me, then they'll come to me. Period. Wouldn't a true woman reveal herself after a while as well? That blanket statement about men is rather odious. IP: Logged |
popcorn
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posted May 30, 2012 08:13 AM
Yes but it could be a nervous thing. Feelings are not always easy when you love someone so because that I always give a man more time and dont put so much important on what he say on the beginning. IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted May 30, 2012 08:46 PM
Thanks everyone... IDK what to say..
Im not speaking to him right now...
Im ok with that.. IP: Logged |
Linda Jones
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posted May 30, 2012 09:17 PM
^^ Awww Lioness. This too shall pass. You'll see.(((Hugs)))  IP: Logged |
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