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Topic: Depressed cappy moon
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lulubunny
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posted May 31, 2012 03:38 PM
  
My friend who is a cappy moon has gone into some very deep depression and she won't tell me why  I am a Scorpio moon and I know normally people say cappy's are less emotional but I know there emotions are very very deep. They just do not know how to confront them or deal with them. She can't face whatever it is that has lead to her depression and now she is suffering which makes me feel terrible for not knowing how to help her. I am normally good with this kind of stuff but never have I encountered somebody with such a solid emotionl shield. Please help ! What shall I do to try and help her? Any cappies would be great  IP: Logged |
ariesdragon
Moderator Posts: 3249
From: Jupiter
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 31, 2012 03:41 PM
I'm not a cap but give her something valuable she will love u for it perfume? A camping trip? Something like that.... IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted May 31, 2012 04:51 PM
Maybe she is sad (uncool word for depression) with a reason?? IP: Logged |
ueharaa
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posted May 31, 2012 05:08 PM
As a capricorn moon myself and having been through depression last year (transiting pluto conjunct sun..) the best you can do is be here. Be as available as you can to her. Also it takes a lot of talking and listening. Identifying the real reason that led her to this can take some time but in the meanwhile, she will surely appreciate someone who genuinely cares and can listen and try to understand her. I'd say that as a scorpio moon, you have an advantage for this. I at least know that I've always been able to confide in scorpio moon people emotionally, I always felt that they could somehow understand how I felt, or at least that they would be comfortable with my outpouring of emotionsIP: Logged |
ueharaa
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posted May 31, 2012 05:20 PM
also you're right about the part where you say that capricorn moon don't know how to deal emotions. I can only speak for myself but I know that one habit I have is that instead of facing emotions and handling them on a daily basis, I repress them focusing on whatever it is that I have to. However there always come a point where I am overwhelmed by them, and they all come back all at once. One easy reaction is to feel guilty for it, for being so vulnerable, and letting them affect us so much. I guess though we can feel very deeply we always feel the need to channel this into something significant and when we can't and when emotions get the better of us and we no longer can get the better of them, it results in a sort of breakdown. Acceptance was the key for me. But then again I only speak as myself, aspects to the moon in the natal chart and from transiting planets should also be taken into account.IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted May 31, 2012 05:51 PM
I find your post patronizing towards her and kinda like you are putting words in her mouth which are actually not things she -said- but rather, things you read in a Cap Moon interp somewhere. I'll be honest. I don't like your attitude. How can you as an outsider looking in say - that she is depressed because she does not know how to confront and deal with her emotions. If she is not opening up to you that might just be because she finds you patronizing, as I just did. That does not mean she is not dealing with her problems. Actually out of all the signs Capricorn and Virgo are the best at finding solutions to problems. When you see a Capricorn and Virgo Moon this is happening on an emotional level so they are very practical about emotions and find solutions in their own time. They are pretty self-sufficient in this regard so they don't always talk about it, specially if they think you are someone who will not understand. But they always deal with the problem. Because Capricorn is a cardinal sign and an old sign they have a kind of personal wisdom and they will never appreciate being talked down to, patronized or told what to do. If you want to help be there for her and ask her what she would want.... Do not tell her what you believe the problem is and what she should want. You simply can't help her by force. If she wants help she will let you know. Otherwise give her space. IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted May 31, 2012 05:57 PM
Uehara - is your Moon square Saturn or afflicted in some other way?IP: Logged |
ueharaa
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posted May 31, 2012 06:15 PM
No, my moon is conjunct mercury and my descendant and widely venus in the 7th house.
I do have Moon parallel saturn though but I've never paid much attention to it IP: Logged |
ueharaa
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posted May 31, 2012 06:17 PM
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Originally posted by Odette:
Because Capricorn is a cardinal sign and an old sign they have a kind of personal wisdom and they will never appreciate being talked down to, patronized or told what to do. If you want to help be there for her and ask her what she would want.... Do not tell her what you believe the problem is and what she [b]should want. You simply can't help her by force. If she wants help she will let you know. Otherwise give her space.[/B]
this is a really good advice. I know I can relate to this very well. IP: Logged |
Mystic Melody
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From: IL
Registered: Dec 2010
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posted May 31, 2012 08:22 PM
I'm a Cap moon (and AC) female. Pluto is difficult. The problem is... when I feel, I feel DEEPLY... so I guess I try to keep it out my mind until moments I can let it out like opening a shook up bottle of pop extra extra slowly so teeny bits of the air can fizz out without allowing the sticky innards to escape all over everything and everyone. I have to let bits out until I have a vacation of sorts to deal with it alone when I am not at work or having to care for others because it almost immobilizes me for a time. I have to go deep down into it and cry it out and reach rock bottom. I often need music or movies (some great art that invokes the sadness) to release it. If I don't do this, I will cry at the drop of a hat over just about anything. Sometimes that is a good thing... people need to see emotion. Sometimes I don't want to expose myself to those who I do not trust with my feelings, simply because they are so tender. Cap is the ice queen in the tower who needs warmth to escape but likes her tower so much she doesn't want your stinkin' warmth to ruin it so go melt somebody else.  <3 IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted May 31, 2012 09:47 PM
Basically, some people open up emotionally to anyone and everyone.
Later on - they sometimes regret it, but they do it all over again... because that is just their personality and they are simply an open book. Or maybe they find it therapeutical to talk, for the sake of talking. Capricorn Moon is discerning and analytical. They are constantly analyzing and assessing the people around them. Often, a Capricorn Moon person will know *which* of their friends/family/acquaintances is the best person for a particular "job" (so to speak). If they need their house repainted - they will call the friend who is a housepainter. They will not call their plumber friend to paint their house. If they need to discuss an emotional problem they will talk to the friend who has proven to give useful and practical advice. They will not talk to someone who they believe will not be helpful to them. "Talking about it" in itself --- As in --- "Getting things off their chest" - is not - on its own - *helpful* to Capricorn Moon. (This is off topic – but… for whatever reason, Cancer influenced people do not seem to understand this… no matter how many times they are told. Cancers enjoy talking ‘about it’ because it makes them FEEL better. Capricorn DOES NOT.). Cap Moon will not *feel* better because they "got it off their chest".
The only reason they will talk to someone is if they think this person can be *useful* to them - in helping them resolve their situation.
Otherwise, talking about it – would only make them feel invaded and annoyed. Not to mention – if they happen to make a mistake in judgment and they talk to the wrong person.. and after explaining their problems for 30 min… this person says something meaningless and stupid like “aw that must be so sad”.. This will be enough to make a Cap Mooner very angry – because they just wasted their time and their energy explaining this situation – to someone who has offered NO PRACTICAL help… so the whole discussion was fruitless and pointless. Cap Moon will avoid this kind of fruitless, pointless conversation ^ at all times… because having these kinds of conversations frustrates them and offends them.
It just feels offensive – to tell someone something that is meaningful – and to receive NO practical help. And to receive a –dumb- comment like “awww you poor thing!”…
It feels like: REALLY? Is that why you wanted me to open up? So we can group hug now? Is the fact that you said “you poor thing” and are trying to empathize - supposed to HELP ME? What an anti-climax! I mean I was expecting some kind of practical advice. O_O I can’t see what I can personally get out of such a conversation ^
The only thing I see – is a friend who is satisfying HIS/HER personal curiosity about my life… which feels invasive from my perspective – and which helps me in NO way whatsoever, other than to waste my time. When a situation comes up - where NONE of the people the Cap Moon person knows - are 'suited' to help... or in any case - if the Cap Moon person sees them as "unskilled" and unable to help.. with a particular problem. Then, Cap Moon will find a way to do it themselves.
So – for instance - if their sink is plugged... and they do not have a friend who is a plumber – then - they will not PAY for someone else (a new person who they do not know) to come over and help... nor will they call a current friend who has NO CLUE about plumbing to come & help. They will look it up online or figure it out on their own - and unplug their own sink. And maybe it will take them 2 weeks instead of 2 hours.. but they will do it properly. They are exactly the same with emotional problems. IP: Logged |
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