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seaofjoy
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posted June 02, 2012 04:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for seaofjoy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have personally found that conjunctions are too similar - to the point that i didn't like it because we were too similar.

trines on the other hand I find to be more favourable.

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posted June 02, 2012 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by seaofjoy:
i have personally found that conjunctions are too similar - to the point that i didn't like it because we were too similar.

trines on the other hand I find to be more favourable.

thoughts?


Hmm. That's interesting 'cause I have Moon conjunct Moon with a guy and we ARE very similar. I don't like it, but I do... at the same time one of our Psych/Eros combinations are Capricorn/Cancer so we are opposites in ways too.

I don't like trines because there's no spark in them. At least with a conjunction I think both people NOTICE the similarity. Trines seem to be things that are taken for granted because they've always been there.

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posted June 02, 2012 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me it depends.

How is the conjuncted planet aspected natally?
What kind of other synastric aspects are there to the conjunction?


I don`t even view conjunctions as aspects.


like it is described here:

"We are going to start by looking at the conjunction which, strictly speaking, does not really qualify as an aspect at all. The conjunction signifies unity, undifferentiated energy, the merging of two or more planets in such a way that they always operate simultaneously. Whether or not the planets concerned are inherently sympathetic to each other, they are irrevocably joined together."
http://www.astro.com/mtp/mtpt62_e.htm


And that`s not always fun, though having said that I am very much a conjunction-girl esp. in relationships. lol

It`s easy to see why. The ruler of my 7th house is Mercury in FIRST house, conjunct SUN.
I need or am attracted to my "mirror" ,(sounds more narcistic than I actually am. lol), and the conjunction is just THE aspect for that kind of idenitification/ reflecting that is apparently written into my chart.


I also think trines are a bit too soft and complacent, and if in excess, can bring inactivity.

But where I really like it is if they relax a challenging aspect.

If my Sun for example was opposing Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, I`d very much like myself some trines to Sun in synastry, as the conjunction in this case woudl trigger all these squares as well.
Makes for a very intense connection, lots of growth potential, but probably too exhausting to make it work in a day-to-day- relationship.

I think the preference might have more to do with the natal charts than a general meaning of aspects.

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posted June 02, 2012 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It depends on the planets involved. I would love to experience Moon conjunct Venus, but the signs for either planets in my chart would make things dry or ugly.

I do like trines though. Things just fall into place without pressure or too much work. The conjunction is like the bipolar aspect for me because it swings from amazing to absolutely horrible depending on the planets, of course.

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posted June 02, 2012 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lunatic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think Grand trines are the best I have ever experienced in a synastry. They were involving moon, mercury and venus. It felt like a cocoon as someone said here. It was like this is our world, our reality that we share and it felt really warm and safe.

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posted June 02, 2012 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux RÍve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think trines are so underestimated.
My chart is full of squares and yet I really like some good trines, and I feel them strongly in synastry.

Conjunctions can go either way.. they're not always as good and fun as they're thought to be. I really like Dawn Bodrogi's approach to conjunctions, she says they are erratic and quite unpredictable, with an Aries vibe. Unless we're talking about the Moon and Venus, that's pretty sweet; but all in all conjunctions are *hard* aspects and are often quite problematic because the two planets struggle to dominate.

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posted June 02, 2012 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for slowpoke     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trines are the cream of the crop!
They represent the true comfort zones in relationships. But some trines do not set you up for automatic attraction. i.e. VE 120 MR, this is a terrific trine for any kind of relationship and is great for working relationships too. But it will not draw you together to benefit from the influence, something else - like a conjunction, another trine, or square must be influencing you too.

Conjunctions and oppositions both depend on the planets being aspected - to experience the benefits. Oppositions require both parties to compromise from time to time, in order to get the full benefit of the aspect influence. i.e. VE 180 UR or MR 180 SA.

Conjunctions are the power players. Again, it depends on the planets being aspected, to gain benefit. Trines makes the couple unimposing and lucky with others. Conjunctions are associated with couples not afraid to assort themselves. And with the right planets involved - can be fortunate in their actions with others. i.e. S 0 JP, MR 0 JP &, JP 0 UR.


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posted June 02, 2012 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crissyx89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Personally conjunctions are less predictable,some people think because lots of conjunctions means smooth sailing not all the time.A conjunction can be one minute like a trine then the next like a square/opposition.

Trines are more predictable than a conjunction imo.

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posted June 02, 2012 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A trine between Moons* feels so good. I guess it depends on the planets involved.

*something I discovered recently,personal experience

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posted June 02, 2012 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Between same planets, depending on the planet, yes conjunctions are too similar. Like there's always competition if its Sun conjunct Sun or Mars conjunct Mars. I liked Moon conjunct Moon.

However, if it's different planets, say, Sun conjunct Moon vs Sun trine Moon, I'll take the conjunction.

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posted June 02, 2012 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Conjunctions are more intense and definitely lead to a deeper connection. For example, Sun conjunct moon is going to lead to a much more intense and nourishing feeling than is Sun trine moon.

It also depends on the planets involved, though. For example Sun conjunct venus is nice, whereas sun conjunct saturn is not very nice. Sun trine saturn is nice, though (if it's not a double-whammy).

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posted June 04, 2012 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I personally like conjunctions more. Usually when I exprience trines the vibes I have with that person is boring.

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posted June 05, 2012 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
For me it depends.
having said that I am very much a conjunction-girl esp. in relationships. lol

It`s easy to see why. The ruler of my 7th house is Mercury in FIRST house, conjunct SUN.
I need or am attracted to my "mirror" ,(sounds more narcistic than I actually am. lol), and the conjunction is just THE aspect for that kind of idenitification/ reflecting that is apparently written into my chart.


I also think trines are a bit too soft and complacent, and if in excess, can bring inactivity.

But where I really like it is if they relax a challenging aspect.

If my Sun for example was opposing Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, I`d very much like myself some trines to Sun in synastry, as the conjunction in this case woudl trigger all these squares as well.
Makes for a very intense connection, lots of growth potential, but probably too exhausting to make it work in a day-to-day- relationship.

I think the preference might have more to do with the natal charts than a general meaning of aspects.


Too be perfectly honest I really do enjoy most conjunctions. Like Ceridwen, Iíve got a Sagittarius rising, a Sag stellium (with a Capricorn Sun), and the Dsc ruler Mercury also in Sag (Itís in the 12th but conjunct the Asc). And when people conjoin my Sag planets with the Sun, the Moon, Venus, Mars or Mercury that really attracts me to a person. Although Iím not sure how Iíd handle a Sag Saturn conjunct one of my planets? Conjunctions really change depending on the nature of the planets involved. Iíd imagine Mars/Saturn could be something of a downer, compared to something like Venus/Asc. Noticed that I also love conjunctions to my Leo Mars which rules my Aries 5th house. My best female friend had her Sun conjunct my Mars in Leo

And I just wanna say that I think Ceridwen has a point about enjoying having a soft aspect relieving a hard natal aspect through synastry. Natally Iíve got a Venus/Jupiter opposition (Itís is trine/sextiled by my Saturn which really helps keep me on even keel) and when another planet in someone elseís chart comes along and trines Venus, for instance, it gives me a type of release. Actually, I love the relief and ease that comes from having a few trines in synastry, same with sextiles, as long as there is a nice balance of other types of aspects there. No relationship is an island where you can only have one type of aspect. And in real life thereís just about always a mix going on. So yeah, I donít see the need to choose between trines or conjunctions because Iíll inevitably get both from the same person anyway.

Squares are the aspects that I find the most draining if there are too many of them in synastry. A couple is okay because they generate a type of spark, and activity. They really make you work HARD though. Too many over time would be uncomfortable for me. That being said my natal chart is not very Ďsquareí (as in I only have one square in my chart involving the major planets, between Mars and Uranus, and itís at wide 5 degree orb) which I feel explains why I regard the aspect with a good deal of caution. Some people actually enjoy the hectic energy of lots of squaresÖ Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher had the worst synastry Iíd ever seen, with practically everything square everything, and they stayed together for 7 years. Both have Ďhardí natal charts.

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posted June 06, 2012 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux RÍve:
I think trines are so underestimated.
My chart is full of squares and yet I really like some good trines, and I feel them strongly in synastry.

Conjunctions can go either way.. they're not always as good and fun as they're thought to be. I really like Dawn Bodrogi's approach to conjunctions, she says they are erratic and quite unpredictable, with an Aries vibe. Unless we're talking about the Moon and Venus, that's pretty sweet; but all in all conjunctions are *hard* aspects and are often quite problematic because the two planets struggle to dominate.


I agree. I've had better (as I define better...which is, "more comfy") experiences with trines than conjunctions.

Yes, I know, trines are boring and make you lazy and complacent...I've heard all the warnings, but I maintain my right to lavish in luxury and enjoy a good solid trine now and then!

Conjunctions also have their place, but have required, in my experience, a longer cultivation period, where that struggle for dominance is either sorted out or given up because both parties are exhausted from it.

Although moon conjunct Mars is inherently dysfunctional, in my experience.

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posted June 06, 2012 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sashar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Conjunctions make me happy. I love me and wish there were two of me so we could date. Trines are good too, but conjunctions, no matter where or what they are tend to make me shine.

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posted June 06, 2012 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love the intensity of conjunctions.

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posted June 06, 2012 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for intriguingineveryway     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love the intensity of the conjunction definitely especially the Venus/Pluto 0*!

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Linda Jones
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posted June 06, 2012 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sashar:
Conjunctions make me happy. I love me and wish there were two of me so we could date.

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