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Odette
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posted June 09, 2012 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
:EDIT: THIS IS FOR ANYONE WHO EVER COMES ACCROSS THIS THREAD IN THE FUTURE... AND THINKS TO THEMSELVES: "HMMM THIS GUY DUN' SOUND LIKE A SCORPIO AT ALL".... WELL THAT'S BECAUSE... IT TURNS OUT - HE IS NOT A SCORPIO - HE IS A SAGITTARIUS......
:EDIT:


Is this something that turns a Scorpio guy ON -- or scares them so badly they run for the hills?

I can't work out whether he is turned on or whether he hates me.

He did something that was out of character... and basically wore his heart on his sleeve - and because I reacted with Capricorn coolness... and did not instantly reciprocate - he felt vulnerable in a negative way.

But I feel like it turned him on as well...

I'm not sure what to think.

As a Scorpio - Would you feel challenged by a person who makes you lose control... would you still like them and chase?
OR
Would you feel threatened and angry (in a negative non-romantic way)?

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Odette
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posted June 09, 2012 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also _ I have to say I am really confused on a pure Sun Sign level. Whenever I read something about Aries and Scorpio - they say that the Aries person is more likely to get hurt - or that Scorpio can quench their fire.

But I feel like he is SO vulnerable... REALLY emotionally vulnerable

In a way - I find this sweet..

But I really don't feel like he is in control at *all*...in this situation between us.

Isn't that strange for a Scorpio?

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posted June 09, 2012 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lose control by:
emotionally like opening up and crying?
Throwing things and angry?
or
Sexually open up as in lose control.....which can be a combination of options 1 and 2. O__o

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posted June 09, 2012 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Or is it just because of my Capricorn placements?

Does Capricorn usually have more control than Scorpio in a relationship?

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posted June 09, 2012 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Lose control by:
emotionally like opening up and crying?

This!

WoW - How did you know?

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posted June 09, 2012 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
Or is it just because of my Capricorn placements?

Does Capricorn usually have more control than Scorpio in a relationship?


Purely on a Sun sign level I'd say Capricorn is more stable. However I see a power struggle in general Capricorn is cardinal and Scorpio fixed.

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posted June 09, 2012 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm...for MEEEE it can go both ways. If I see opening up and crying and all that as a way of bonding and building trust, it's golden. If I see it as you viewing my vulnerability, it's scary...

How does your Scorpio see it?

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posted June 09, 2012 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
This!

WoW - How did you know?


I have come across quite a few Scorpios sun signs and usually when they become very "domestic" or emotionally vulnerable it involves either cooking or crying.

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posted June 09, 2012 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Crap...

RedScorp - I think he didn't see it as bonding... because I was kind of cold.
I didn't mean to be but it was unexpected and I had a detached reaction.
I was still nice don't get me wrong... but I didn't say anything that reciprocated his own feelings.

Yesterday he acted weird towards me and started blatantly flirting with a mutual friend whom he normally does not speak to... when I was there. He kept looking back at me (peripheral vision) but he basically avoided me and didn't say "hi".
This is something he wouldn't normally do - so I think I must've made him feel bad unintentionally.

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posted June 09, 2012 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But I still can't work out whether he sees it as a challenge and now he is trying to make me jealous - because he just wants my attention..
Which would mean that he basically still likes me and things can still be OK between us.

OR

Whether he is actually angry and wants to make me jealous just to hurt my feelings because I made him vulnerable.
Which would mean that he is in 'revenge' mode... rather than 'romantic' mode..
Do you know what I mean?

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posted June 09, 2012 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for novembermuse     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am a scorpio and was married to a scorpio man so i know a bit about this. He was in revenge mode big time and very hurt. Just talk to help and explain your side. The longer time goes by the worst he and you will feel. Just my two cents...

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posted June 09, 2012 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Talk to him about it? If anything, a Scorpio will be cool with chatting about it openly and calmly...and if he doesn't want to, then there's an issue. The Scorpios I know would be willing to talk about deep and emotional things as long as I wasn't all up in their face. But, with two, when I upset them, they'd afterwards avoid it.

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posted June 09, 2012 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Odette:
But I still can't work out whether he sees it as a challenge and now he is trying to make me jealous - because he just wants my attention..
Which would mean that he basically still likes me and things can still be OK between us.

OR

Whether he is actually angry and wants to make me jealous just to hurt my feelings because I made him vulnerable.
Which would mean that he is in 'revenge' mode... rather than 'romantic' mode..
Do you know what I mean?


He probably feels a bit hurt if your were as cold as you said you were he could be either "warning" you he might move on and attempting to push you to emotionally lay claim to him as he did with you. Or he wants revenge but usually that doesn't happen unless they really want to end the possibly of a relationship. Scorpio suns usually don't like feeling vulnerable or having someone having leverage over them especially emotional leverage.

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posted June 09, 2012 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Just talk to help and explain your side.

Yes! Like you said yourself, Swan Princess, the water sign wants you to be sympathetic and notice.

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posted June 09, 2012 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Normally I would be nice - I have Pisces Mercury (and it's trine his Scorpio Mercury). I can get under his skin and I think I can sort out this situation and be friends.

But something is holding me back.

I think it's partially the fact that he seems turned on by the whole thing O_O

I don't even know how to explain this.

There is something in the energy between us (it could be the Mars/Venus opposition we have in synastry) - that makes me want to .. - make him jealous back... rather than "talk".

:edit: that was wrong ^^ I had his chart wrong. what we actually have in synastry is venus opposite venus ... and... mars square mars.... both exact:edit:

I KNOW -- trust me -- I KNOW that these games end bad.. and I won't do it.

I'll control myself.

But I really want to.... *facepalm*

gah

OK! - bad bad Odette.


I will just talk to him.

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posted June 09, 2012 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^Lmaoooo! Well, you only live once, so do what's worth your time.

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posted June 09, 2012 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some games are fun you just have to stay two moves ahead.

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posted June 09, 2012 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Odette:
Is this something that turns a Scorpio guy ON -- or scares them so badly they run for the hills?

I can't work out whether he is turned on or whether he hates me.

He did something that was out of character... and basically wore his heart on his sleeve - and because I reacted with Capricorn coolness... and did not instantly reciprocate - he felt vulnerable in a negative way.

But I feel like it turned him on as well...

I'm not sure what to think.

As a Scorpio - Would you feel challenged by a person who makes you lose control... would you still like them and chase?
OR
Would you feel threatened and angry (in a negative non-romantic way)?


I'm a Scorpio ascendant and moon. I would not be turned on by coldness, especially if I went out of my way to open up to you. I think he might be turned off now. And also, you made a bad impression that he will store away in his memory box of you.

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posted June 09, 2012 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hahaha LOL You guys!!!

You're a bad influence haha

jk

But my question is - as a Scorpio - does he actually LIKE this... Is he turned on - or is it in my head?

Because if he takes it to heart and hates me forever.. that's not the reaction I'm after.

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posted June 09, 2012 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Crap...

RedScorp - I think he didn't see it as bonding... because I was kind of cold.
I didn't mean to be but it was unexpected and I had a detached reaction.
I was still nice don't get me wrong... but I didn't say anything that reciprocated his own feelings.

Yesterday he acted weird towards me and started blatantly flirting with a mutual friend whom he normally does not speak to... when I was there. He kept looking back at me (peripheral vision) but he basically avoided me and didn't say "hi".
This is something he wouldn't normally do - so I think I must've made him feel bad unintentionally.


Yup, he's festering inside. If you don't show any emotions or let him know what you think, then he'll close the books on you. He might even end up disliking you.

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posted June 09, 2012 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I think he might be turned off now. And also, you made a bad impression that he will store away in his memory box of you.

Yeah... if I really felt like he was hurt - I would talk to him.

But the way he was trying to make me jealous and staring at me and basically trying to start a game. It made him seem more MORE sexually attracted.

Wouldn't a Scorpio who was really hurt - act more serious? Would he try to play a game?

That's what confuses me.

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posted June 09, 2012 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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. If you don't show any emotions or let him know what you think, then he'll close the books on you.

Ok. I won't listen to the devil inside!! lol

I'll go with my Piscean side and be sweet towards him

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posted June 09, 2012 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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^Lmaoooo! Well, you only live once, so do what's worth your time.

love this quote!!

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posted June 09, 2012 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpios will get sexy when they have nothing to lose. They become lovable when they trust you and truly love you.
The sexy part can be turned on later as you like, but in the initial stages, I would seriously avoid games with a scorpio.

That **** ****** me off. Plus lol...Not to brag, but he'll always one up you with mind games. For all you know he does dislike you, and from all your posts you are thinking of him constantly and are confused. lol See how that works? He might be baiting you, making you think there is something when he's just trying to mess with your mind aka take revenge.

I'd also like to say, scorpios hate playing mind games themselves, unless we are really hurt and angry. The innocence of a sweet relationship is ruined in my opinion when you play mind games. It's just silly.

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posted June 09, 2012 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The innocence of a sweet relationship is ruined in my opinion when you play mind games. It's just silly.

This is how I feel myself - normally.

But with him - I almost feel like - "So what? you only live once!" - Like Redscorp just said.

This is very unusual for me.

Normally if someone starts a game with me.... I pretend they fell off the face of the planet, in that second. That's a Capricorn reaction.

quote:
to mess with your mind aka take revenge.

Well I did not do anything intentionally to hurt him.
I would like to figure out whether this is the case.
Because if he reacts with such ego-mania and rage OVER me simply being detached..... then - he is not my type.

It's my prerogative to be detached. I don't know him that well. I need to get to know someone... I don't fall in love overnight.
He has Sagittarius Moon&Venus.. so maybe he does fall in love overnight...?
(His Venus is conj his Uranus)

:edit: he ACTUALLY has Taurus Moon and Libra Venus. That was wrong - I had his chart wrong. BUT he does have Venus closely sextile his Uranus :edit:

If I had rejected him - then I would understand... but I was simply quiet.
Surely he couldn't be -that- hurt about me being quiet?

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