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Topic: Wondering about fire signs and love
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hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 1543 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 13, 2012 04:14 PM
I know how I function as a fire sign... but there's a guy with Leo moon, Venus in Sag and he just seems to flit from girl to girl. I don't know him as well as I used to but I remember him being so shy when we went to high school together. He's a Cap sun. Anyway, my focus is specifically on the Leo/Sag part. I feel like this combination doesn't understand how to connect with someone on a deep level. I'm not dogging them, but it's a combination I really have a time wrapping my head around. Their romantic actions are so breezy that I tend to doubt they're concern about anyone else's feelings but their own, I've heard Leos are not afraid of emotion. But could it be they're not afraid of emotion because they are so logical? More emotional signs wouldn't like emotion because they empathize with it... just my ramblings. I was wondering how Venus in Sagittarius feels in love? Like why is it (or seem) so easy for you to go from person to person without mourning or getting nostalgic? IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 4163 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted June 13, 2012 04:45 PM
Lol. You and I know our problems with Leos. I really think there is just no more self-centered a sign. Aries and Sag are much easier to deal with for me in personal relationships because they are just so much more rational. They say sorry when they need to, and they are like other regular people in that they understand when they have done something wrong! Leos, however, are not regular people. Haha. They always blame everything on me and play the victim. They have been the most irrational sign in my life. My parents always complain how my grandma and my aunt, both leos, are both super irrational and take everything---everything!---personally. And that has also been my experience in friendships with them. They're way too sensitive.I know they say leos are very loyal, but that hasn't been my experience. I know cancers are sensitive, but at least we are loyal. We will stick it out with you for quite a while as you hurt us/criticize us, to see if we can reach a compromise first and make you change. But, leos? Pfft, compromise isn't in their vocabulary. I know your question was about leos with sag moon but my grandma is that and she isn't any less flighty than other leos. Hmm. Lol. She is very independent, though. She has a very strong will and really needs her freedom. I can see that in her sag moon. About jumping from people to people...hmm I think leos in general are like that, aren't they? Free spirits, you know? Well, a lot of them, anyway. But my grandma isn't any more or less loyal than other leos. I think only leos with feminine signs in their moon and asc, and mostly feminine signs in the rest of their chart are truly loyal. I don't think it's not that they empathize with emotion or not or are so logical that emotions don't affect them. It's just that they don't let people close, they don't let people in because they are insecure and wouldn't want to admit to anyone their vulnerabilities or their fears etc. I think they keep people at a distance because they are scared of someone finding out they're not as great as they try to make everyone think they are. I think leos are really insecure and that's why they take criticism so personally. I would understand where they're coming from since I have leo moon. ------------------ Imagination is intelligence having fun. —George Scialabba $3.50 ebay compatibility readings IP: Logged |
Odette Knowflake Posts: 571 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted June 13, 2012 05:29 PM
I think you just haven't met the right combination.... I mean they are both compatible with your chart. Capricorn is so-so..... Capricorn can be intense for you, but maybe not always smooth-sailing.If you met a Sagittarian with his Sun opposite your Gemini planets... and trining something you have in Aries... and possibly also with a Sag Mars -- You'd happily get it on like there is no tomorrow. Trust me! quote: they are so logical?
Leos are usually so romantic they lose themselves in the feeling of being in love. The only thing that can make them appear cold & logical is a Virgo Mercury (though not always). quote: how Venus in Sagittarius feels in love?
Because it is a transpersonal sign, they wouldn't be that keen on relationships. Sagittarius Venus stands for a love of all things Sagittarian -- philosophy, religion, travel, different cultures, languages etc..... It's much easier for them to fall in love with a country, than a person. I know a Sag venus guy who is in love with France. He talks about France all the time. They are much more likely to end up with a girl who has an accent/is from a different culture... They really like learning new things. They can have a relationship with someone who is constantly teaching them new things about the world - and philosophising with them. quote: he just seems to flit from girl to girl.
Flirting is just flirting. I have no Leo in my chart and only Saturn/Uranus in Sag... and I flirt a lot, though it doesn't really mean anything to me. If he has sex with multiple girls.... that would be more about his Mars. IP: Logged |
depth Knowflake Posts: 280 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted June 13, 2012 06:08 PM
My Venus is in Sagittarius in the 10H. Venus conj Merc/Nnode. Venus widely conj Sun. Venus sextile ascendant. Nothing in Leo, except for Descendant.And yes, I tend to flit from guy to guy. I'm generally not interested in relationships but when I am, it means about a dozen of them. At one point, I was with 6-7 guys. I actually maintained a timetable. lolz. I guess most of them knew each other but that didn't stop me. Hell with them if they had a problem. I was more interested in the chase. As long as the guys played cool & uninterested, I was into them. I couldn't be attracted to someone for more than 2-3 weeks. Moreover, I used to be super unstable & unpredictable, would never bother informing the guy that I was wrapping up. Just disappear one day. My crushes come & go. What happens is that I wake up one morning & feel nothing. I never miss the person. I miss the stability & happiness(dopamine)I feel when I'm in "love" with love. But something tells me it's not the right guy. I flirt irrespective of whether they're single or committed. And there's nothing subtle about it. I'm cool with anything but SEX! My Mars is in Sagittarius sextile Saturn & I'm very particular about losing my virginity to that special someone. My first love(kind of)was a Virgo, 3 years back. That sparked off a series of official relationships. I've had 3 official boyfriends till now; 2 months(super unstable!), 3 months(moderately stable) & 8 months(wonderfully stable). I'm improving. lolz. Karma slapped me on my face 2 years back. So I don't treat guys that way anymore. Yet all my exs complain that I never looked like I was in love. I wasn't actually. I confused lust for love but I was at my best behavior! 8 months = long term in my opinion. ahahaha...I get bored in relationships that lack fun & challenge. Leo in my 7th makes me very idealistic, romantic & choosy. Most guys fail to meet those standards. There's always something missing. I met a relative 3 years back & was blown away the very first time I saw him. I'd never felt that way before. He had tried reaching me thrice & I unknowingly slammed doors on his face. We're meeting this August at my uncle's wedding & I'm already so excited & OBSESSED. Spent the whole week listening to cheesy love songs & day dreaming. Felt desperately helpless day before yesterday & was at the verge of crying for no reason at all. I feel like a part of me would die if I see him with another. I don't have his chart so I don't know what's going on in our synastry. Doubt it's got anything to do with Pluto, Neptune & Uranus(I've experienced them with other guys). I don't know where Saturn, Jupiter & the rest of his planets fall though & I already want to marry him officially(I never believed in marriages like wtf). IP: Logged |
peachbeigeblue Knowflake Posts: 1375 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted June 13, 2012 06:59 PM
I think it's the Sag Venus. Personally. Bc I have know sag suns with sag Venus that are like this and sag moons with sag Venus that are like this too. IP: Logged |
peachbeigeblue Knowflake Posts: 1375 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted June 13, 2012 07:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming: I think only leos with feminine signs in their moon and asc, and mostly feminine signs in the rest of their chart are truly loyal.
Must be why I'm such an angel bc my moon and asc. She's talking about a Leo moon though, goof. Like you! IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 2657 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted June 13, 2012 07:24 PM
I have several leo friends, they are all manhoes haha. well except for one who still jumps from girl to girl but he is faithful while dating.IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 4163 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted June 13, 2012 07:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by peachbeigeblue: I think it's the Sag Venus. Personally. Bc I have know sag suns with sag Venus that are like this and sag moons with sag Venus that are like this too.
facepalm. LOL!!! ------------------ Imagination is intelligence having fun. —George Scialabba $3.50 ebay compatibility readings IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 4799 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted June 13, 2012 09:29 PM
Oh you know I had to chime in here As a 4x Leo... Well honestly what RAS said really rings true,about not letting just anyone in, and being insecure at the same time... I can be with some one,and like them but not really let them in to really get to know me... Its not because its a bad thing, its more the delicate part.. I can and have gone from man to man with ease.. But I never really let that person in, so I wasnt emotionally attached... IF (which is rare) I get emotionally attached then I will stay forever, as a happy loyal bee I dont want to get to emotionally attached to just anyone, because well lets face it, most relationships will end... So I dont want to get to emotionally attached and then it ends.. Then Im left with a shattered heart.. A Leo with a shattered heart, is not a well leo.. Its self protection I guess.. As for like fishy.. I got emotionally attached (wtf) IDK how that happen... Im hanging on to it with all my might... What can I say!
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hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 1543 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 13, 2012 09:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by Odette:
Flirting is just flirting. I have no Leo in my chart and only Saturn/Uranus in Sag... and I flirt a lot, though it doesn't really mean anything to me.If he has sex with multiple girls.... that would be more about his Mars.
I don't know if he has sex with them, I'll have to check out his Mars. I just know what I see on Facebook. And I see girls posting pictures with him, and they're like "blah blah blah some emo love quote blah blah". His Mars is in Aries. Huh. He's got Sun and Mercury in Capricorn though. Also, he seems to go on dates with them, not just flirting like banter - unless I have a misconception of what flirting is. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 1543 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 13, 2012 09:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by depth:
I met a relative 3 years back & was blown away the very first time I saw him. I'd never felt that way before. He had tried reaching me thrice & I unknowingly slammed doors on his face. We're meeting this August at my uncle's wedding & I'm already so excited & OBSESSED. Spent the whole week listening to cheesy love songs & day dreaming. Felt desperately helpless day before yesterday & was at the verge of crying for no reason at all. I feel like a part of me would die if I see him with another. I don't have his chart so I don't know what's going on in our synastry. Doubt it's got anything to do with Pluto, Neptune & Uranus(I've experienced them with other guys). I don't know where Saturn, Jupiter & the rest of his planets fall though & I already want to marry him officially(I never believed in marriages like wtf).
A relative? Like... someone you're related to?
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hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 1543 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 13, 2012 09:53 PM
Maybe my real question wasn't how Leos or Sags can not get emotionally attached, but why do I? I get emotionally attached to EVERYTHING. I'm a very emotion-oriented person (but I'm not like those girls you see on reality shows who cry at everything and own their emotional selves.) but I'm an Aries with Merc and Venus in Aries. I don't know where it comes from, or why I get attached. I moved seven times all over the country... you'd think I'd have the whole "no attachments" thing down pat.Also, what I wanted to explain was it's like these fire sign oriented people have fun, but they don't seem like they're having fun WITH someone...more like they're having fun on their own and this person just happened to intercept them at the right time but there's no merging involved. It's hard to explain... maybe RAS explained it and they are simply insecure. IP: Logged |
mercuranian Knowflake Posts: 519 From: the 12th house Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 13, 2012 09:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: A relative? Like... someone you're related to?
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hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 1543 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 13, 2012 10:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by mercuranian: [QUOTE]Originally posted by hannaramaa: [b] A relative? Like... someone you're related to?
[/B][/QUOTE] Well did you read her post?! Read it. It's not an insane question to ask.
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vertiver Knowflake Posts: 1562 From: Firey Jupiter Registered: May 2009
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posted June 13, 2012 11:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: Maybe my real question wasn't how Leos or Sags can not get emotionally attached, but why do I? I get emotionally attached to EVERYTHING. I'm a very emotion-oriented person (but I'm not like those girls you see on reality shows who cry at everything and own their emotional selves.) but I'm an Aries with Merc and Venus in Aries. I don't know where it comes from, or why I get attached. I moved seven times all over the country... you'd think I'd have the whole "no attachments" thing down pat.Also, what I wanted to explain was it's like these fire sign oriented people have fun, but they don't seem like they're having fun WITH someone...more like they're having fun on their own and this person just happened to intercept them at the right time but there's no merging involved. It's hard to explain... maybe RAS explained it and they are simply insecure.
I think you've just encountered emotionally evasive Leo/Sag men. I'm a Leo Sun/ Sag. Asc. I get attached easily, fall in love at the top of a hat, and always attract really cold, unemotional types. I'm so sick of it. I want to find a nice and emotive man, is that too hard to ask? I think there are fiery men that are emotional, but they're hard to come by... IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 1543 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 13, 2012 11:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by vertiver: I think you've just encountered emotionally evasive Leo/Sag men. I'm a Leo Sun/ Sag. Asc. I get attached easily, fall in love at the top of a hat, and always attract really cold, unemotional types. I'm so sick of it. I want to find a nice and emotive man, is that too hard to ask? I think there are fiery men that are emotional, but they're hard to come by...
Well, one Leo sun/Sag moon I met was VERY emotional but also very much about himself. He was everything RAS described. Total Leo. I think you also attract unemotional men because you're the opposite. Do you have Uranus or any Uranus-like aspects in your 11th, 5th, 7th house? I want to find a guy with high self-esteem but no ego, and balanced in how he expresses his emotions. And funny. And tall and handsome. IP: Logged |
Odette Knowflake Posts: 571 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted June 14, 2012 03:22 AM
Hannarama - In truth any of the signs can be that guy you are looking for. It's about emotional maturity/life experience. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming Knowflake Posts: 4163 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted June 14, 2012 03:27 AM
@hannah quote: I want to find a guy with high self-esteem but no ego, and balanced in how he expresses his emotions. And funny. And tall and handsome.
haha. yeah. Make me an order of that, too. haha Lioness: quote: I dont want to get to emotionally attached to just anyone, because well lets face it, most relationships will end... So I dont want to get to emotionally attached and then it ends.. Then Im left with a shattered heart.. A Leo with a shattered heart, is not a well leo.. Its self protection I guess..
I think i understand why leos do this because i have a leo moon so I do the same thing. But somehow my cancer sun overrides it. It's like i try to do it for a little bit and then I'm like, ah screw it, this is pointless. And then i get clingy and attached every time lol. never fails. yep... I do think that once you have gotten truly close to a leo you are very lucky. Like when they are willing to compromise with you and try to be honest about their faults. you are really really lucky. Then again, like i said, i think this is much easier with the leos with a feminine moon and rising and feminine personal planets ------------------ Imagination is intelligence having fun. —George Scialabba
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Odette Knowflake Posts: 571 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted June 14, 2012 03:30 AM
Based on your chart, I still think you'd have an absolute blast with the right Sagittarian. I think you need a manly man in your life - a guy with air&fire. The Aqua guy, for instance - has too much feminine energy. You are too strongly Aries to end up with someone who is so serious and somewhat bitter.. As his Cap/Scorpio combo would make him. You need to have more fun!! I don't know why you end up attracting these kinds of unemotional men. IP: Logged |
Libreo Knowflake Posts: 928 From: Australia Registered: Sep 2011
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posted June 14, 2012 03:32 AM
I have Leo moon and Sag venus, but I'm cooking dinner atm, promise to be back with input soon. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 1543 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 14, 2012 04:32 AM
quote: Originally posted by Odette: Based on your chart, I still think you'd have an absolute blast with the right Sagittarian. I think you need a manly man in your life - a guy with air&fire. The Aqua guy, for instance - has too much feminine energy. You are too strongly Aries to end up with someone who is so serious and somewhat bitter.. As his Cap/Scorpio combo would make him. You need to have more fun!! I don't know why you end up attracting these kinds of unemotional men.
I do! *Raises hand* Pick me, pick me! I have Saturn and Uranus both in my 7th house! both in Capricorn, and my Sun and Venus are in hard aspect to Saturn. And I have Moon, 11H, opp. Pluto, 5H. Also, I LOVE Sags. I truly do. I just never run across one very often. The last one I did I really really liked but he made me mad, now he's gone and won't stay in touch. And the Aqua? Man.... don't get me started on him! He's BFF with a Cap woman (married, by the way...) who LOVES running his life! And he's so ditzy about the way she talks to him like he's 12. He's 28. He needs to act like it.... that in itself was enough of a turn off for me.
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seaofjoy Knowflake Posts: 103 From: Registered: Apr 2012
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posted June 14, 2012 07:12 AM
IF YOU LIKE THEMEPARKS, saggis will take you on a roller costa and do you both physically & mentally while you're on it. lots of funLeos can feel, a bit too much at times, but Sag Venus, dont even get me started! They get bored faster than a Gemini, at least w gemini venus it is personal, Sag Venus gotta share their love - i know many who like about 3 girls on the side providing for their different needs, not they're bad people, they just don't think like water signs do, they're in the moment and they do it for happiness. Anythign that restircts their freedom is a big no no, they don't like being told what to do, think of a centur- part man (up top) part horse (down below) - yup, very caring and tries to help everyone else, but they enjoy running (away and towards - side to side) and using their er ... tools. Most likely gets off on banter and philosophy and doesn't like cuddles! I have a leo Mars, and sag rising, been attracting too many Sag Venus ... >_< i think jupiter has something to do with it, expasion and curiosity - kinda like Pisces, who tend to swim away when put in a cage, sex is just a fun activity for saggis, they get emotionally attached intellectually. which unless one is highly smart and constantly reads and thinks on a tanget is hard to keep up IP: Logged |
mercuranian Knowflake Posts: 519 From: the 12th house Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 14, 2012 11:49 AM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: Well did you read her post?! Read it. It's not an insane question to ask.
oh i read it, and was as surprised/mortified as you
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Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 1900 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted June 14, 2012 04:02 PM
I find Aries to be much more emotional and sensitive than Sagittarius, for sure.Leos, it depends. They're not particularly "sensitive" but they have huge egos that get bruised easily. They can be quite generous though. Not sure about loyalty... ahem. They want attention and worship and if they don't get it they have no trouble looking elsewhere. Now, the fact that you're so emotional is probably reinforced by your Moon/Pluto opposition. That makes for a very intense and deep emotional life, you cannot take things lightly with such an aspect. And Moon/Pluto people actually get quite attached to things/people.. even though they often cut off their past and have numerous "transformations" they can be quite nostalgic and hold onto their feelings for longer than others.
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vertiver Knowflake Posts: 1562 From: Firey Jupiter Registered: May 2009
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posted June 14, 2012 06:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by hannaramaa: Well, one Leo sun/Sag moon I met was VERY emotional but also very much about himself. He was everything RAS described. Total Leo. I think you also attract unemotional men because you're the opposite. Do you have Uranus or any Uranus-like aspects in your 11th, 5th, 7th house? I want to find a guy with high self-esteem but no ego, and balanced in how he expresses his emotions. And funny. And tall and handsome.
Yeah good luck with that one! I never realized it, but yeah Uranus/ Saturn are opposite my 7th H Venus. Maybe that's the dealio with cold heartless men.
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