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Xerxes
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posted June 14, 2012 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xerxes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all,

I am new to the Forum and am already elated to find a surplus of information on here. I am relatively well-versed in astrology, but what I've had trouble reconciling with is the fact that many family members of generations that precede ours are unable to find an accurate birth time.

I have particular interest in a great-grandmother of mine who I met only a handful of times before she passed, but for some reason have always felt a very spiritual connection to. The first step in deciphering why that is would be to cast her Natal Chart.

Perhaps you all could be so kind to tell me what planetary energies you pick up on from the attached photo? It's the only one I've been able to find. Thank you in advance!

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lalalinda
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posted June 15, 2012 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello xerxes! Welcome to LL

I see strong Leo, not so much in appearence but in the way she holds herself and looks directly in the camera.
If you are interested in rectifying her chart may I suggest starting by putting her Mars in the first house. (her beauty mark)

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popcorn
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posted June 15, 2012 06:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree about leo.

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VenusDiSirius
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posted June 15, 2012 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh,I like her!!! Gorgeous woman!

I see Air.

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Xerxes
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posted June 15, 2012 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xerxes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you both! I sensed a very potent Leo energy, too. She was known to be a very dignified, regal, proud, and bossy woman, so the Leo theme fits her perfectly. To boot, every member of my maternal line has Leo potent in their chart -- they're all Leo Suns, Moons, and AC. We probably inherited this energy from her.

Can anyone else attest to seeing Leo energy, or share what others signs may be at play here? Someone made mention of seeing Air? Thank you!

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Xerxes
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posted June 15, 2012 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xerxes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Oh,I like her!!! Gorgeous woman!

I see Air.


Thank you very much! What kind of Air do you see?

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Ami Anne
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posted June 15, 2012 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm I pick up Virgo

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VenusDiSirius
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posted June 15, 2012 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Xerxes:
Thank you very much! What kind of Air do you see?

She is elegant and cool.


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I can also see bit of Fire,Leo,but I am Leo Sun,so it is easy for me to project that on people I like. (leos do that )

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Lazyscarecrow
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posted June 15, 2012 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lazyscarecrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Everybody says Leo and I can kinda see why...but her facial expression says Capricorn to me. Then again, I am so not good at picking up on planets/sign in people's faces...

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Xerxes
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posted June 15, 2012 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xerxes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Hmm I pick up Virgo

Hmm, interesting. Her birthday was September 23, meaning that depending on the time of the day she was born, her Sun was at 29º Virgo or 0º Libra.

Her year of birth is a bone of contention amongst my grandfather and his siblings -- some say 1919, while others say 1922.

A 1919 chart reads:
Sun: Virgo/Libra
Moon: Virgo
Mercury: Virgo
Venus: Virgo
Mars: Leo
Jupiter: Leo
Saturn: Virgo
Uranus: Aquarius
Neptune: Leo
Pluto: Cancer

A 1922 chart would read:
Sun: Virgo/Libra
Moon: Scorpio
Mercury: Libra
Venus: Scorpio
Mars: Capricorn
Jupiter: Libra
Saturn: Libra
Uranus: Pisces
Neptune: Leo
Pluto: Cancer

I know it's a lot to ask to pass judgement on one picture, but which seems more fitting? 1919 would indicate more Libra/Leo, while 1922 is more Libra/Scorpio.

Any ideas of an accurate ASCENDANT for her? She rarely smiled in pictures and always made the same face she is making in this one. She was also rather short, perhaps 5'2". The beauty mark on her face was actually painted on, so the notion of Mars in the 1st gets thrown out the window.

I was thinking maybe a Leo AC with Neptune in 1st? What does she seems to you? Jupiterian, Uranian, Neptunian, Plutonian?

What do we think? Thanks guys!

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posted June 15, 2012 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Libra Sun,Scorp Moon.

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posted June 15, 2012 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dysfunctionalmystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you look through other family members charts you should find signatures...in mine there is Mars in Taurus, Jupiter in the 3rd or 9th, moon/uranus aspects etc

for instance

my grandmother moon opp uranus
my mum moon con uranus
me moon opp uranus
my youngest daughter moon opp uranus[wide]


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Xerxes
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posted June 15, 2012 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xerxes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dysfunctionalmystic:
If you look through other family members charts you should find signatures...in mine there is Mars in Taurus, Jupiter in the 3rd or 9th, moon/uranus aspects etc

for instance

my grandmother moon opp uranus
my mum moon con uranus
me moon opp uranus
my youngest daughter moon opp uranus[wide]



Hi there, thanks for the advice! I did in fact do this earlier, and am leaning toward 1922 because of the Scorpio Moon. Her first daughter had one, and every first daughter of the following 3 generations have Scorpio Moons.

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Xerxes
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posted June 15, 2012 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xerxes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Libra Sun,Scorp Moon.

Thanks, I'm leaning toward this as well. Is the Scorpio Moon energy palpable? It would be a Scorpio Moon conjunct Venus.

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prettywords
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posted June 15, 2012 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for prettywords     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can get her birth cert so you don't have to guess. Also check the ssi index. They give dob & you'll know the dob w yr. At least. Looks don't give a lot of info. Personality tells mote.

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Xerxes
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posted June 15, 2012 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xerxes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by prettywords:
You can get her birth cert so you don't have to guess. Also check the ssi index. They give dob & you'll know the dob w yr. At least. Looks don't give a lot of info. Personality tells mote.

Hi there, thanks for the advice! She was born in Quito, Ecuador, so obtaining her birth certificate isn't so easy. I suppose the picture was posted in hopes of yielding Ascendant guesses... Thoughts?

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RedScorp
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posted June 15, 2012 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did this thread happen already? I'm experiencing major deja vu.

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Randall
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posted June 15, 2012 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome!

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curiouswoman
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posted June 16, 2012 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for curiouswoman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
definitly a cparicorn sun leo moon kinda feel or even sag

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VenusDiSirius
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posted June 16, 2012 07:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Xerxes:
Thanks, I'm leaning toward this as well. Is the Scorpio Moon energy palpable? It would be a Scorpio Moon conjunct Venus.

The eyes,eyes are very Scorp.

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alaz7200
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posted June 18, 2012 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alaz7200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe a late Gemini ASC with Pluto in the 1st? She has sharp/refined features, but is also very Plutonic in her look.

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posted June 18, 2012 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a real beauty mark like that, but no Mars in the 1st. I think that beauty mark is a Gemini/Virgo/Mercury signature.

9/23/1919 produces a 7 lifepath. This is a spiritual, easygoing, reclusive type of personality. Produces strong artistic talent. Secretive, but also likely suffered deception. An innocent nievete is observable in the personality.

9/23/1922 produces a 1 lifepath. Standoffish, and reclusive at times, but VERY dominant with a Queen-of-the-Jungle approach to domestic affairs. This lifepath will also give a Leo aire.

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posted June 19, 2012 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by alaz7200:
Maybe a late Gemini ASC with Pluto in the 1st? She has sharp/refined features, but is also very Plutonic in her look.

I saw gemini sun or asc, too.
And i agree that pluto in the first makes sense

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posted June 19, 2012 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xerxes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Welcome!

Thanks!

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Xerxes
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posted June 19, 2012 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xerxes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by curiouswoman:
definitly a cparicorn sun leo moon kinda feel or even sag

I definitely see where you're coming from. She looks very Saturnian/Capricorn or Solar/Leo... her gaze could be interpreted as regal, or conversely, condescending. Whatever the case, there seems to be a lot of pride in her countenance.

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