posted June 20, 2012 04:23 PM            

Well this would describe me. Its annoying because some guys will never notice me but it can make for a pleasant surprise for others.

Also, I think this has to do with my 1st house full of Capricorn and alot of the other planets in Scorpio.

posted June 20, 2012 04:52 PM            

I'm pretty shy in public, I've gotten better as I got older, and I know how to assert myself when I need to. I totally understand where your coming from though. Alone you can think to yourself how people might react to you in certain situations but once it actually happens it's the exact opposite.
People can get to know you in different ways, you just have to find out which way is best for you to express yourself

posted June 20, 2012 07:04 PM            

My Cap stellium is in the 7th.

I don't mind though. I very much relate to the boring librarian archetype deep down - having a Cap Moon. It makes me feel happy and comfortable.

It is definitely a surprise for some though... who would imagine me to be more 'out there' - since my Sun is in Aries.
The people who really take issue with this are men with an Aries Venus... for whatever reason. They truly get their panties in a knot over it.

They like my Aries side - and when they get to know me better - they get frustrated that I'm not as dramatically-inclined as they first imagined.
But good luck to them! LOL

posted June 21, 2012 06:18 PM            

Looking at the deg of your sun sign, i think we have the same birthday

I'm pretty shy in public, I've gotten better as I got older, and I know how to assert myself when I need to. I totally understand where your coming from though. Alone you can think to yourself how people might react to you in certain situations but once it actually happens it's the exact opposite.
People can get to know you in different ways, you just have to find out which way is best for you to express yourself

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posted June 21, 2012 06:19 PM            

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Originally posted by vertiver:
I can kinda relate. I have Saturn in the 1st H. I come off a bit reserved at first, but eventually I'm really chatty and happy go lucky like my Sag. Asc.

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Yes! Another person with Saturn in the 1st . And I also have a Sag Asc! Im so happy for my ascendant or I think I would be too dark and emotional.

posted June 21, 2012 06:21 PM            

My Libran placements help me blend into many subcultures when I wish to (and my Leo ascendant helps me pull it off with panache as well) but my Sag placements can mean sooner or later my mouth gets me in trouble. For example, where I last lived I had some Alabama redneck neighbors (and Southerners tend to stick together in California even when we'd otherwise stick our noses up at each other) and I let them think I was a Texas redneck for the most part (eg, they probably thought I only listened to country music to hear me talk) as I see value in getting along with neighbors as much as possible and never did anything to freak them out (which my Sag Mars & Moon can make difficult, plus I strongly suspect my Mercury is on the Scorpio cusp right along with my Sun). Then one day I was visiting while they were watching King Kong (the one that played at cinemas a few years ago) and as King Kong started tearing up NYC one asked if this was based on real events (ie, did a giant gorilla really tear up NYC). I desperately held onto my tongue as my Mars Sag tried so hard to snark but as the others said they didn't know I lost control and said things like, "Snopes might know" and then "I think so because the Principia Discordia did say King Kong died for our sins."

I got blank looks in return and while it's fair to say they couldn't have known what I'd say they were nevertheless surprised that I said that. One asked, "What's a princ...princ..pea?" I explained the Principia Discordia was the holy text of the Discordians, those who worship Eris/Discord, though it's actually more Taoism adapted to Western culture disguised as a joke religion. Asking about the goddess I gave the myth of the Golden Apple and how the Discordians have used to find wisdom and one said she sounded scary and at point my Sag energies combined with my Libran contrarian (gotta have balance) qualities to explain all the gods, even Jesus, have a dark side (I did say, "Maybe not Guanyin, but I probably just don't know enough about her"). At that point my cover was truly blown and I was greeted with the same kind of suspicion and awkward silence that I knew all too well in Texas when I said things like that (actually in Texas they might be reaching for the proverbial pitchforks but hey, as weird as I was we were still surrounded by Californians ).

Btw, I recall the first time I realized I was a geek. I saw a YT vid creating a fight scene between Darth Vader and Dark Willow (of BtVS) and reading the comments I saw an argument on who would win and I chimed in about Force Lightning and why Vader couldn't use it and would thus be helpless before Dark Willow's command of it and right after I posted it shocked realization of what I just did coursed through me and I realized I was a geek. But after about 15 seconds I shrugged and figured it helped to make me more well rounded as a person.

posted June 21, 2012 06:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
I have the exact opposite problem lol

My Cap stellium is in the 7th.

I don't mind though. I very much relate to the boring librarian archetype deep down - having a Cap Moon. It makes me feel happy and comfortable.

It is definitely a surprise for some though... who would imagine me to be more 'out there' - since my Sun is in Aries.
The people who really take issue with this are men with an Aries Venus... for whatever reason. They truly get their panties in a knot over it.

They like my Aries side - and when they get to know me better - they get frustrated that I'm not as dramatically-inclined as they first imagined.
But good luck to them! LOL

I like a lot of Scorpio/Capricorn influenced men who seem to appreciate the dichotomy in me.

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posted June 21, 2012 06:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Lazyscarecrow:
I can COMPLETELY relate. I have had people actually describe me as a "goody-two shoes church girl" when they first meet me just based off my demeanor and appearance and then when they get to know me, completely different story....

Looking at your chart, I would say it's the Capricorn in your 1st as a possibility, but it could be deeper than that. The only planet in my 1st is my NN, other than that my ASC is also Sagittarius. I honestly think it's a Scorpio thing.

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posted June 21, 2012 06:25 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
innocence is usually a virgo/pisces thing, i have a twelfth house sun and people perceive me as innocent.

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posted June 21, 2012 06:26 PM            

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Originally posted by ail221:
Check your sexual asteroids, they will probably fill in the blank.

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posted June 21, 2012 06:35 PM            

Haha! I can toooootally RELATE because I have a Sag ascendant and Gemini Mars and mercury opposition mars, which means I am always holding my tongue.

My teacher and I always got into friendly disputes because I always offered a second oppinion. Also, Sag is a natural teacher so I am not trying ever to be condescending but I do find myself 'preaching' or giving uninvited lectures.

posted June 21, 2012 06:37 PM            

Haha! I can toooootally RELATE because I have a Sag ascendant and Gemini Mars and mercury opposition mars, which means I am always holding my tongue.

My teacher and I always got into friendly disputes because I always offered a second oppinion. Also, Sag is a natural teacher so I am not trying ever to be condescending but I do find myself 'preaching' or giving uninvited lectures.

Yes, I am pretty unusual I think its uranus/neptune in the 1st along with all of the aspects they make. But yes never belonged to a clique in HighSchool ended up doing online to finish it up.

posted June 21, 2012 07:27 PM            

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Originally posted by butterflyxoxxo:
Very good point. I know someone with 12th house sun/venus and they do come off as innocent esp in gemini.

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posted June 21, 2012 07:50 PM            

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Originally posted by butterflyxoxxo:
Oooh never heard of those! Will do

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