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kennedy80
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posted June 20, 2012 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kennedy80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello! I'm new to this forum, but I'm not a stranger when it comes to astrology. If anyone has any advice - it would be much appreciated!

About a year ago I started dating my neighbor - I live in a duplex, it was a cozy, convenient set up! He's a Gemini, I'm a Scorpio - not as bad as it sounds..

Here's my chart -
Moon-Cancer
Mercury-Scorpio
Venus-Virgo
Mars-Sagittarius
Ascendant-Gemini

Here's his chart -
Moon-Virgo
Mercury-Taurus
Venus-Gemini :/
Mars-Leo
Ascendant-Aries

So, even though I'm a Scorpio, I'm a hard one! Never needed a man - always been very independent. But, some how he wore me down. We had an amazing friendship plus this explosive sexual attraction to one another. Great combination!

Things started to get more serious - after several months of us hanging out, I finally let my guard down with him. We shared things with each other that were very personal, things he's never told anyone before. He was changing as a person, for the better. It was an amazing connection we had. After dating for a year, one day he told me he was moving. Hit me kind of hard. My Scorpio intuition told me he was running. I had gotten too close and he was scared. I was aware he was wanting to find a bigger place at some point, he told me months ago - but stayed because of me. So, I did know this was coming eventually. But, this decision was made with such urgency, I knew something was up. He swore he wasn't running, that nothing would change - "we'd just have to drive to see one another." So, what happened? He disappeared. Didn't see him for about a month - then one day ran into him out and about. He was acting sweet, attentive & jealous when another guy was hitting on me - also insisted I come over soon. Now he's wanting to be friends. He's apologized for running out on me and on this "dating thing" we had, but he said I got more attached than he was "willing to allow himself to get". Not sure what this whole roller coaster is about! Can anyone help from an astrological point of view? I know the Venus in Gemini is more than likely the culprit.. but, is it worth sticking around for? If anyone can help me decode this Gemini puzzle (and what it is he wants from me), I'd be very grateful!

Thank you!
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posted June 20, 2012 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sexyaqua30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My intuition is telling me he's not worth the fight. He's going to do the same thing he did before which is run then expect you to accept him back. To me he's emotionally imature and not looking for what you're hoping for which is.....stablility.

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posted June 20, 2012 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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My intuition is telling me he's not worth the fight. He's going to do the same thing he did before which is run then expect you to accept him back. To me he's emotionally imature and not looking for what you're hoping for which is.....stablility.

I agree. As a Gemini, if I'm not that interested in someone, I don't stay in contact. It's that simple. Remember, Geminis are the communicators of the zodiac. If he wanted to stay in contact with you, then he would've done so. Instead, he flaked out on you and did not properly end the relationship. He left you hanging, which is not fair to you.

He's immature and is not ready to settle down. If I were you, I would just forget about him and move on. You deserve better than that.

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posted June 21, 2012 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gem-Gurl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with the above posters! Im a gem.. and if we wanted contact, we would deff reach out.

Im sorry btw, i can say without a doubt, I KNOW JUST HOW YOU FEEL!! Exept in my case he was a Leo... he just disappeared.... then acted like almost nothing happened the next time we ran into eachother... grrrr men!! *bangs head against wall*

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Quote i like---> "A collection of rare thoughts is nothing less then a cabinet of intellectual 'Gems' " - William B. Spraque with slight editing by me!!

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posted June 21, 2012 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kennedy80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the responses!

Well, ends up he did follow through and had me over to his new place. He did explain he was trying to distance himself a bit because of my getting too attached. Didn't actually want to break things off - he enjoyed our friendship too much. He seemed fidgety and nervous all night. This whole thing just seems so bizarre to me! You like someone, you continue to be in their life, you don't, you disappear!

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posted June 21, 2012 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gem-Gurl:
I agree with the above posters! Im a gem.. and if we wanted contact, we would deff reach out.

Im sorry btw, i can say without a doubt, I KNOW JUST HOW YOU FEEL!! Exept in my case he was a Leo... he just disappeared.... then acted like almost nothing happened the next time we ran into eachother... grrrr men!! *bangs head against wall*


haha its not just men, a libra girl did that to me, she was in constant contact with me while we dated 24/7 , the night before she dissapeared she gave me all this bs how she never wanted to lose me than the next day poof! never really talked again.

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posted June 21, 2012 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He might've got scared of his feelings for you & needed to get away to compose himself. Not calling for a month tho is really emotionally immature I agree. Does he have Venus Rx? Sorry to hear about your situation.

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posted June 21, 2012 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kennedy80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ariesdragon:
He might've got scared of his feelings for you & needed to get away to compose himself. Not calling for a month tho is really emotionally immature I agree. Does he have Venus Rx? Sorry to hear about your situation.

I don't think his Venus is in retrograde, but not 100% positive on that. I guess I'm just not sure what to do at this point. I'm aware that Gemini's need to be friends before they warm up to a relationship, but I'm feeling very hurt and deceived - and I let him know this. Seriously gave him a mouthful! I'm thinking of just laying low and seeing what he does with all of this. Just miss our friendship in the meantime. Wish we could just get back to what we had. It's a shame & feels like such a waste of time if it really is over. Do Gemini's tend to come back around after they have time to think and assess their feelings?

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posted June 21, 2012 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It looks like he will come back coz he was inviting you over. He missed you that's good you told him straight up you have no time for games. Don't worry I think you'll still get to spend time with him

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posted June 21, 2012 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gem-Gurl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
haha its not just men, a libra girl did that to me, she was in constant contact with me while we dated 24/7 , the night before she dissapeared she gave me all this bs how she never wanted to lose me than the next day poof! never really talked again.


Oh then let me re-phrase that. Ahem "grrrr people!!! *bangs heads against wall*"

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Quote i like---> "A collection of rare thoughts is nothing less then a cabinet of intellectual 'Gems' " - William B. Spraque with slight editing by me!!

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kennedy80
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posted June 27, 2012 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kennedy80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Completely forgot that Venus has been in retrograde since April! Now that it's on its way back to normal - we'll see what happens!

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posted June 27, 2012 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm glad you talked things out! The key to keeping a Gemini's interest is to balance out togetherness and solitude. Pick three days out of the week to spend time with each other. During the remanning four days, focus on your own hobbies, hanging out with friends, etc. You can send a sweet text message, but for the most part you should spend these days away from your Gemini.

This gives your Gemini room to breathe and it lets him know that you have your own life and interests. Geminis want to feel "wanted" not "needed." They do not like the pressure of having to be the center of their partner's universe. By giving your Gemini some space, it will make him want you more.

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posted July 14, 2012 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kennedy80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, here's an update - not much of one!
He's been inviting me over, like once a week. We're back to hanging out & having fun. Haven't gotten back to the flirting/romantic stuff, though. Although, he has had candles lit when I come over - fed me the first bite of something he was eating, little of some flirtatious touches - so there are some promising signs. But, it seems like his social life/friends hold more importance over us hanging out. I feel like he can only fit me in during the work week, when he doesn't have much going on. Am I being too sensitive about this? I do know he has that earth influence in him, where he takes things more slowly - and I on the other hand have that Mars in Sag, so I'm impatient as all hell! Any advice on this situation? I just feel like after a "break-up" you both go your separate ways. But, he's inviting me over and we have such a good time when we hang - but, is it possible I'm setting myself up for disappointment? Like, maybe I will forever be in the friend zone?

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posted July 14, 2012 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kennedy80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, I do have to admit there is more to the story. I guess I can say this in here since none of you will ever know who this guy is! But, a huge reason he backed off is because of a problem he has in the bedroom. It's not every time, but it was enough to frustrate the hell out of him. I'm not a male, so I don't understand why you would rather end a completely wonderful relationship because of your "problem". But, I guess to a man, it's a completely devastating thing you want to run away from. I always told him I didn't care and gave him positive feedback - but I guess it's just something he's got to fix on his own. So, my point being, this may be why he's scared to flirt - he knows where that will lead to. So, this is why I'm being so patient. Hopefully in time it will fix itself.

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posted July 14, 2012 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robin Goodfellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know if there is any desperation on your part, or if there is any yearing or longing or even puzzlement but your charts look like a nice mesh. If you still have a good chemistry then you might as well be together but if there are contradictory undercurrents then you will have to decide what to do.

I like your ascendants and mars signs which could be nice combos.

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posted July 14, 2012 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Robin Goodfellow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kennedy80:
Also, I do have to admit there is more to the story. I guess I can say this in here since none of you will ever know who this guy is! But, a huge reason he backed off is because of a problem he has in the bedroom. It's not every time, but it was enough to frustrate the hell out of him. I'm not a male, so I don't understand why you would rather end a completely wonderful relationship because of your "problem". But, I guess to a man, it's a completely devastating thing you want to run away from. I always told him I didn't care and gave him positive feedback - but I guess it's just something he's got to fix on his own. So, my point being, this may be why he's scared to flirt - he knows where that will lead to. So, this is why I'm being so patient. Hopefully in time it will fix itself.

Call him and recommend he see a doctor for testosterone/hormone therapy.

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posted July 14, 2012 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kennedy80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Robin Goodfellow:
I don't know if there is any desperation on your part, or if there is any yearing or longing or even puzzlement but your charts look like a nice mesh. If you still have a good chemistry then you might as well be together but if there are contradictory undercurrents then you will have to decide what to do.

I like your ascendants and mars signs which could be nice combos.



There definitely is a yearning, longing desire to still be with him, and I know he feels the same. But, I am puzzled - not sure what he's going to do with those feelings. With his moon in Virgo, he's completely capable of controlling his emotions and able to rationalize what's the most logical thing to do. I know he's jaded from past relationships and I know he's scared. Scared of losing some of his freedom and to be emotionally bound to someone else. So, I'm not sure what direction he's going to go. I'm fighting for this because he's a good man, just has baggage. But, so do I - everyone does. I'm just trying to show him I'm the kind of girl who will stick around and help him "unpack" some of it. But, if I continue to come in second place to his friends, I can't stick around for that. But, for right now, I'm just trying to stay friends and see what happens. I know Gemini's respond best to friendship first.

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posted July 14, 2012 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kennedy80:

There definitely is a yearning, longing desire to still be with him, and I know he feels the same. But, I am puzzled - not sure what he's going to do with those feelings. With his moon in Virgo, he's completely capable of controlling his emotions and able to rationalize what's the most logical thing to do. I know he's jaded from past relationships and I know he's scared. Scared of losing some of his freedom and to be emotionally bound to someone else. So, I'm not sure what direction he's going to go. I'm fighting for this because he's a good man, just has baggage. But, so do I - everyone does. I'm just trying to show him I'm the kind of girl who will stick around and help him "unpack" some of it. But, if I continue to come in second place to his friends, I can't stick around for that. But, for right now, I'm just trying to stay friends and see what happens. I know Gemini's respond best to friendship first.

Geminis hate the uncertainty of emotions. Come to think of it, I think a lot of people do...

The important thing is to talk with him about the status of your current relationship. Does he just want to be friends? Does he just want a causal fling? Or does he want a longterm relationship? You need to make sure you are both on the same page and want the same things because otherwise you'll both just end up frustrating each other. Assuming he wants a longterm relationship and is scared, you should both establish some ground rules. I know this doesn't seem romantic, but you need to know each other's expectations. The key is making sure that he doesn't feel smothered. You should absolutely demand quality time with him, but also make sure he has time for his friends. Friends are REALLY important to Geminis. If you ask him to choose between you and his friends, he will most likely pick his friends. If he chooses you, he'll just end up resenting you later when your relationship hits a rough patch.

Anyway, by establishing some ground rules, this will make him far more relaxed about the relationship knowing that he'll still have some freedom and won't have to deal with a clingy girlfriend. Reassure him that you are not the type who needs to be glued to her boyfriend's hip. That's every Gemini's worst fear. Here are some examples of ground rules just to get you brainstorming:

1. Spend time with friends 2 days a week and spend 3 days with girlfriend.

2. Call and say good morning on days you are not spending time with each other. Keep conversation under 5 min

3. If anyone feels smothered, they should feel free to ask for time to themselves. This does NOT indicate the relationship is in trouble.

4. If anyone has a particularly busy week with work, school or with other commitments and are not able to spend sufficient time with the other, they should let the other person know at least a few days in advance that they will be extremely busy and won't be calling, hanging out, etc.

5. If there are any problems in the relationship, both individuals should immediately and calmly express whatever is bothering them.

6. Agreeing with each other about everything is not going to happen, but both individuals should be supportive of each other.

7. Have fun!

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posted July 22, 2012 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kennedy80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I feel like things are starting to get skittish again. He had me over last week - things were ok. But, there was a little bit of tension. At one point he got a text on his phone. For some reason, we have this common courtesy between us (something he started)- whenever we receive a text or phone call we mention who it is. He used to joke when my phone rang, "must be one of your other boyfriends calling". He got a text & said nothing. I could see it was a woman's name. Asked about it and nicely told me him and one of his friends were going to see a movie. But, explained she was moving next week. Just made me feel like a chump. He let me borrow one of his favorite books, but ended up returning it- leaving it on his doorstep. Told him I didn't want to keep something that was so important to him. Maybe it was a bit overdramatic, but felt like I was being played and didn't want any ties anymore. He also didn't show up to an event we were both going to. But sent me a text the next day asking how it was. Even just typing all of this out makes me seem pathetic. But, I still care for this man, but know it's ultimately not healthy. I feel like he's an addiction I can't break. I've done our compatibility charts together and it's so true - there's this amazing connection and when we can't see one another, it sends a sense of panic. I get that he's probably trying to end this whole attempt at being friends, it's just hard for me to let go when he does little things like driving past my place on the way to work, trying to figure out who's car is parked in front of my place, etc. Unfortunately he only lives a few blocks down from me. Hard to move on. Thanks for listening, just needed to vent!

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posted July 22, 2012 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You'll be okay.

He's not worth it. If he likes you enough, he'll come after you.

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Hey Kennedy80.

I believe you have gotten addicted, as the two of you have Mars trine, and a Venus/Rising conjunction. It's probably one of those relationships where you might see the relationship as more than it is.

Addiction is what it sounds like on your end definitely. That panic feeling is a loss of control on your part, and he will hurt you if you press.

You must grow strong at this time, and fight this addiction, don't let it get out of hand, as it may really mess with your sweet/sensitive Cancer moon.

In my opinion, there is no doubt about it, he's going to hurt you. He's got a flimsy chart, and strikes me as a bail from fail type. You're better off leaving it as is.

Dust off your ego, Scorpio, and keep your head high. It would get worse, and more you than him. He may want to contact you later, but it would only be because he's curious, nothing more.

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posted July 23, 2012 01:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kennedy80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
esheep123, I think you're exactly right. I just need to steer clear from him. It's going to be tough, but when he contacts me in the future, I'm going to try my best to ignore him. I hate to come off as jerky, but I think it's the best thing to do at this point. Too many games, I feel like my head is spinning. Never knew it was possible love & hate someone at the same time.

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posted August 04, 2012 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kennedy80     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, I've come to find out his rising is in Pisces, not Aries. Had his birth time wrong. This sheds light on the situation. He really is a sensitive guy. I really don't know any Pisces, never had any in my life. I did message him to say hi last week and he was very responsive. Seemed concerned and caring. Opened up more to me. Not sure if I should keep this communication going - we both have water influence and I think that feelings have gotten hurt on both sides, so walls came back up. He was telling me how excited he was about a trip he's taking this weekend - I was toying with the idea of messaging him when he comes back to ask how the trip went. But, really feel ultimately, he needs to start contacting me if this is ever going to go anywhere. So, my question is - with Gemini men is it more out of sight out of mind, or absence makes the heart grow fonder? I know there's still feelings there or he would have stopped all contact a long time ago. I'm a Scorpio and I'm going to win this game! Just need a good game plan!

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posted August 05, 2012 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kennedy80:
Well, I've come to find out his rising is in Pisces, not Aries. Had his birth time wrong. This sheds light on the situation. He really is a sensitive guy. I really don't know any Pisces, never had any in my life. I did message him to say hi last week and he was very responsive. Seemed concerned and caring. Opened up more to me. Not sure if I should keep this communication going - we both have water influence and I think that feelings have gotten hurt on both sides, so walls came back up. He was telling me how excited he was about a trip he's taking this weekend - I was toying with the idea of messaging him when he comes back to ask how the trip went. But, really feel ultimately, he needs to start contacting me if this is ever going to go anywhere. So, my question is - with Gemini men is it more out of sight out of mind, or absence makes the heart grow fonder? I know there's still feelings there or he would have stopped all contact a long time ago. I'm a Scorpio and I'm going to win this game! Just need a good game plan!

It depends. If he genuinely cares about you, then absence definitely makes the heart grow fonder. If he sees you as just a casual friend, then it's definitely "out of sight, out of mind." Let him make the next move.

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