posted June 21, 2012 02:25 AM            

I hear things like "Person A's Venus is not well received by Person B (since it would be in detriment), but Person B's Venus is well received by Person A (since it's in domicile)."

In other words, does this mean (in terms of Venus energy) that Person A (Venus in Libra) will not want to be around Person B (because of that detrimental energy in Aries), but that Person B will try everything they can to be around Person A (since Venus would be at home in Libra)?

Sorry for the wordiness, I'm just trying to get straight what's probably a very straightforward concept. lol

posted June 21, 2012 03:46 PM            

It's unbalanced.

Venus in aries takes on Arian characteristics, fiery, stubborn, egotisism, individualism and Venus in Libra is about Libran charteristics such as balance, fairness, accomodation.

posted June 21, 2012 03:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Thefish:
That's pretty much it. The person with venus in aries receives the person with venus in libra well whereas the venus in libra doesn't receive the venus in aries well.

It's unbalanced.

Venus in aries takes on Arian characteristics, fiery, stubborn, egotisism, individualism and Venus in Libra is about Libran charteristics such as balance, fairness, accomodation.

This combination can be very very attractive becuase they are opposites but with opposition there can be a lot of frustration.

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What I meant was, does the Venus in Aries person want to be around the Venus in Libra person (since Libra would receive Venus well, being in domicile), whereas the Venus in Libra person NOT want to be around the Venus in Aries person, since Aries doesn't receive Venus well?

posted June 21, 2012 04:59 PM            

So, yes, the venus in libra is more of a draw for the venus is aries than venus in aries is a draw for venus in libra.

I don't know it's a question of not being around as there are other aspects than can control who likes whom more etc.

posted June 21, 2012 08:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Nine:
I'm Venus in Taurus and I've had a few run ins with Venus in Scorpio. As for who wants to be around who...since this is not a male-female dynamic I can't see one pursuing the other for attention.

In my case I found Venus in Scorpio more actively alluring, while I was more passive. Of course other factors were at play.

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Fair enough, but when I mentioned "who wants to be around whom..." I didn't mean it as a cat-and-mouse chase between genders. I was referring to the dynamic between signs, planetary placements, and the gamut of exalted, domicile, detriment, and fall. It had nothing to do with gender specifics. I'm a guy, and I've known other guys where certain synastry aspects aren't always mutually well-recived, so I was trying to figure this out and was simply asking for assistance.

posted June 23, 2012 01:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Whether a planet is in it�s detriment or fall, or whether it is exalted or dignified, it makes not difference how attractive a person is in general. Put another way, if the synastry shows there is a potential attraction between two people because of planetary interaspects, there will be an attraction regardless of what sign those planets are in.

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I don’t know that I’d agree with that. I think placements are as important to a synastry chart as aspects between those placements. I don’t think aspects would supersede placements.

For example, if two people were a couple, and one had Venus in Virgo (in fall) and the other had Venus in Scorpio (in detriment), those two do have Venus in sextile, but in unfortunate sign placements that don’t allow the planet’s fullest potential. If with another couple, someone had Venus in Taurus (in domicile) and the other had Venus in Pisces (in exaltation), that couple’s Venus/Venus aspect would also sextile, but in (my opinion) a much more favorable sextile than the Venus-Virgo/Scorpio couple. I have to wonder if the Venus-Virgo/Scorpio couple would be a case of “misery enjoying company.” They may “enjoy” each other’s company, but onlookers might see a nit-picky or crabby couple that “enjoys” criticizing others. lol So, in other words, placements can matter as much as aspects. The whole picture must be considered.

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In the case of an opposition sometimes affections can be lopsided. It is also true that the opposition can generate strong mutual attractions to what is opposite�. Each relationship has it�s own individual and unique context. There is no guarantee which way things will go through using astrological techniques. Astrology can only show that the potential exists.

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I didn’t use oppositions to focus on. I used it because Venus in Libra (where it’s in domicile) is opposite Venus in Aries (where it’s in detriment), and oppositions are a major aspect where energy between two people with each of these placements would both receive (on one hand) and not-receive (on the other) this Venusian energy well. I guess I could have used Venus in Taurus (also in domicile) sextiling Venus in Pisces (in exaltation) as an example, since the sextile is also a major aspect and both placements would receive each other well, albeit one more so than the other.

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Actually, I would argue that Venus in Aries does have it�s charms. These people are refreshingly direct, enthusiastic and passionate. They have plenty of vibrant energy, and are often, shall we say, �hot� looking. They have want Venus in Libra lacks� Aries Venus knows how to say �no�, and often has tremendous self honesty about what they like regardless if it�s the popular choice or not. I could actually see how a Venus in Libra person could admire this. Venus in Libra is tactful and graceful. They like to keep the peace and sometimes they have difficulty saying �no�, or admitting to an unpopular opinion on something�

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Well, you can argue all you want, but I don’t know if “refreshing” is a word I’d ever use with an Aries placement. And actually, Aries doesn’t have what Venus in Libra lacks necessarily. As I consulted with an astrologer on this once, signs draw upon the energy of the sign opposite to it. To me, this doesn’t mean that a sign lacks everything the sign its opposite has. It manages to attract its opposite because it contains a little something of that opposite in itself already. Look at a yin-yang symbol. Each yin contains a bit of yang at its core. Granted, we’re talking astrology, so some might not find these comparisons congruent, but I actually think the analogy works.

The point of the Venus-Aries to Venus-Libra was to illustrate ease (or lack of ease) in receptivity between each Venus based on detriment versus domicile placement, not to argue for the merits of Venus in Aries.

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In my case I have Mars in Leo and I just love Venus in Aries people.

The thing about opposites is that, yes, sometimes they repel�. But they can also attract just as strongly as they repel, depending on the people involved, the situation, and what other factors exist in the synastry. It can swing either way. And there are no �rules� about who is the more attractive in a relationship just based on their Venus sign, whether it be in it's detriment, fall, dignity, or exaltation� That�s kind of like saying that all Aries, Scorpio, and Virgo Venus people will always repel all Libra, Taurus, and Pisces Venus people, and also that they are somehow less attractive then others�It�s just not true out there in the real world. I�m sure there are plenty of celeb examples that could refute this theory.

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Not sure where exactly you’re going with that. When you say “attractive,” it seems you’re implying physical attractiveness. I was not. I was talking about receptivity by planetary placement, about whether a person would want to be around another person based on how well their inter-planetary aspects receive each other. Somehow you read “attractiveness” into that, associated it with whether someone finds another physically attractive, and ran with that, even though that wasn’t what my original post talked about, nor was it the focus.

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Using a different example from the Aries/Libra combo, lets just say someone had Venus in Virgo (Venus is in it�s fall in Virgo and considered �compromised� in this sign), and another person had Venus in Taurus (Venus is in it�s dignity in Taurus and considered strong in this sign), and they had a Venus/Venus trine by degree. The Venus in Virgo person would be just as attractive to the Venus in Taurus person, as the Venus in Taurus person is to the Venus in Virgo person�. The fact that the trine exists between these two planets is more important that what signs the planets are in� Even if Venus in Virgo is a difficult placement to live with, this does not make them less attractive in general to others if good synastry is there.

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Please see my last statement. Thanks.

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The answer to your question is... Sometimes there can be a repulsion, and this is usually if the two people are the same sex. Venus opposite Venus can symbolize a women against women type of scenario, or a social style against social style scenario (or it may just mean that the two people really like each other, oppositions are tricky like that).... But if they are the opposite sex, this aspect can actually indicate a very strong, and mutual attraction. The women may challenge the man's concept of the ideal women in some way, and she may surprise him with her behavior�. But that�s not to say that this will be an unpleasant surprise� He may actually find her quite amusing, and enjoy the contrast� For example, a diplomatic Venus in Libra guy may admire a Venus in Aries girl's spunk and vibrant personality... Or he find her to be 'too much' for him... Like I said, oppositions can go either way!

I say ignore planetary dignities, falls, detriments, and exultations when it comes to synastry. Because, in my experience, they have no influence on who is the more attractive within a romance or even a friendship.

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Ignore them if you want. I won’t because I think they’re key to receptivity. A synastry chart isn’t about one thing or another (placement versus aspects). It involves it all. Perhaps some have had unfortunate experiences which could be explained by harsher placements and choose to ignore that part of astrology, even though it’s quite important.