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Virgo_D
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posted June 30, 2012 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo_D     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Lonake
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posted June 30, 2012 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Again with the Mercury to Mars and Saturn. This is getting to be cliche.
If they wanna get along they need to bite their tongues and schedule vacay time away from each other, with more like minded folks. The tsq is in fixed signs and they often like to think that they're right. The one with the Merc in Leo is contributing more of the headache, since it's her merc/mars to saturn sq.
I didn't look further maybe others will. I see this one come up over and over. It's not easy.

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posted June 30, 2012 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo_D     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for the reply Lonake.

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posted June 30, 2012 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo_D     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks again Lonake

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posted July 01, 2012 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Despina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Harsh Saturn/Mercury aspects in synastry can be tough, especially when it comes to healthy communication. Taking a quick glance, I see there's also a Venus/Uranus and Mars/Neptune conjunction. In my experience these can go either way. The Venus person MAY find the Uranus person aloof, indifferent, or changeable. They might even get the idea that the Uranus person doesn't like them, and once this thought sets in they could see it in everything the Uranus person says or does (I have been the Uranus person here, and it wasn't personal. To be quite honest, I didn't know what the Venus person's problem was, or why they were getting so upset. Apparently they had a crush on me and I hadn't even noticed). Sometimes Mars/Neptune can be romantic, between lovers Mars might want to "rescue" Neptune and be her hero. However, often Mars can be a little rough for Neptune, who might find his comments or actions highly insensitive, even when they aren't designed to be. Thus, Mars sometimes deems Neptune overly sensitive, weak, or in extreme circumstances, a complete victim. I'm relatively new to astrology myself, and apologise if this is off the mark, just speaking from personal experience.

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posted July 02, 2012 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo_D     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for your response, Despina.

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Despina
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posted July 03, 2012 02:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Despina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Vrigo_D,

Taking another look at the synastry, I've scouted two possible culprits as to why the DIL might be uncharacteristically phased by the MIL: D's Venus square's M's Neptune, and D's Sun conjuncts M's Pluto. The former is a classic indicator of unrequited love (if you type it into google you should get tons of articles on it). Basically, Venus has an idealised image of Neptune in her head, which gets disappointed when reality hits and the illusion is shattered. This pattern tends to repeat itself until Venus walks away heart-broken. It's not easy on Neptune either - they might feel as 'though Venus' expectations are unreasonably high, as well as feeling somewhat aggrieved, since it is often unclear where said expectations originated in the first place (The classic line from Neptune is: "I don't understand where all of these feelings are coming from", and/or "I never gave out these signs"). Projection is a hallmark of Sun conjunct Pluto too (as it is when any personal planet gets involved with Pluto). It's a very intense aspect, marked by mutual fascination, but also power plays, and unfortunately Pluto always wins because it's less invested (well, that's my take on it anyway). The Sun wants to be special to Pluto, but Pluto doesn't love people just the way they are, it demands transformation. Sometimes, especially if it's badly aspected natally, it can be cruel and controlling.

Ultimately, it has been my experience that the relationship is more important to the Sun than Pluto, and likewise with Venus and Neptune. I can see why it would be important to the DIL to get along with her MIL (it's always been a big fear of mine to be disliked by someone so important to my SO), less so the other way around as the MIL has less to lose (blood is thicker than water). This dynamic is reflected in the above synastry, I think. However, given the Neptune/Pluto stuff, I'd say it's also possible that DIL has some unresolved issues which she is projecting onto MIL (What's her relationship with her own mother like? Why is it sooooo important that this woman like her? Do you see where I'm going with this?). If I'm reading too much into that one, I do apologise. Not talking at all certainly won't help smooth things over. Would it be possible for the DIL to resign any hopes or expectations that the MIL will change, and focus instead on what they agree on? I don't get along especially well with my mother, for instance, so I just do things she likes doing to keep the peace (she likes eating out, so I take her out once a fortnight and keep it to small talk, nothing personal).

P.s. The verbal cruelty could be Mercury/Pluto, but Moon/Saturn conjunctions can be quite harsh too (Not always! Sometimes it's akin to a Capricorn moon, which I have myself, and is mostly just reserved and not keen on overly emotional displays, but they're quite hard on themselves and others, and if offended, cold).

P.p.s. Just noticed the MIL's grand trine between Venus, Mars, and Jupiter/Pluto. Pluto in Leo is passionate about kids, perhaps possessive of their own, and with the trine, it's what comes most naturally to her. Could she see DIL as stealing one away? Pluto here can be a bit childish themselves (think Peter Pan, they never want to grow up!). Negatively, it's more petulant than childish (Granted, this is my experience of someone with Pluto in Leo in the 5th house, a double whammy, and badly aspected).

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posted July 06, 2012 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo_D     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much Despina

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posted July 06, 2012 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo_D     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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