posted July 01, 2012 05:52 AM            

Cap moons on the other hand- I’ve really only known a few, but all that I’ve known have made sure to appear as the “good girl” or boy in youth. At least in APPEARANCES. They get good grades in high school, they’re the one their friends parents hope keep coming around (even if they’re really a huge goof-ball or are drinking excessively on the weekends lol) they care about their reputation and want to appear respectable-not that Cap suns don’t, but this is something they pull of well very naturally even in their teenage years.

But while things seem to be getting easier for Cap suns the older they get, I’ve seen things get a lot more difficult for Cap moons once the stability of living at home is gone… And I’m not old enough to have peers with Cap moons who are out of college yet so I’m not sure exactly how this plays out later down the line…

posted July 01, 2012 06:25 AM            

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I’ve also known a lot of Cap suns very heavy responsibilities at a young age…

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posted July 01, 2012 06:28 AM            

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Originally posted by L0veLess:
i never understand what that is supposed to mean about Capricorns:
what sort of heavy responsibilities do ya mean???

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posted July 01, 2012 06:40 AM            

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Originally posted by L0veLess:
i never understand what that is supposed to mean about Capricorns:
what sort of heavy responsibilities do ya mean???

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I agree with milkyshutter, there isn't a specific resoponsibility. I guess the traditional interpretation would be having parents who expect the highest achievements from you from the beginning- which somewhat fits with me. I'm the oldest and my parents expected nothing less than straight A's from me even in elementary school, and tried to use me as an example of how intelligent our family could be with my "advanced" capabilities. When my sister was born, she was coddled and spoiled, while I was expected to just take care of myself... The expectations remained way higher for me while the emotional acknowledgement never compared...

That's just my personal experience but I have also known Cap suns with very heavy responsibilites due to having abusive or absent parents, having to take on the responsibility of emotionally suporting siblings or relatives, or not having the emotional support of their own families, etc...

posted July 01, 2012 06:45 AM            

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Originally posted by FireMoon:
I agree with milkyshutter, there isn't a specific resoponsibility. I guess the traditional interpretation would be having parents who expect the upmost highest achievements from you from the beginning- which somewhat fits with me. I'm the oldest and my parents expected nothing less than straight A's from me even in elementary school, and tried to use me as an example of how intelligent our family could be with my "advanced" capabilities. When my sister was born, she was coddled and spoiled, while I was expected to just take care of myself... The expectations remained way higher for me while the emotional acknowledgement never compared...

That's just my personal experience but I have also known Cap suns with very heavy responsibilites due to having abusive or absent parents, having to take on the responsibility of emotionally suporting siblings or relatives, or not having the emotional support of their own families, etc...

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posted July 01, 2012 06:45 AM            

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Originally posted by L0veLess:
Milky:
ooh ok thats terrible! Im a cap sun with the stellium there but i dont know if i've ever felt that weight of 'responsibility' like that. Maybe in little ways? but not so much where i'd attribute it to my cap placements ya know.

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Intersting though LOveLess, thanks for responding! I think it really does vary from person to person...

posted July 01, 2012 06:54 AM            

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Originally posted by L0veLess:
Milky:
ooh ok thats terrible! Im a cap sun with the stellium there but i dont know if i've ever felt that weight of 'responsibility' like that. Maybe in little ways? but not so much where i'd attribute it to my cap placements ya know.

Also i know 2 cap moons and they do seem to keep up appearances like yur suggesting. They aren't completely irresponsible or anything. And both have water suns.

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Well, I think there were many events in my life that triggered me to go extreme. First of all, my dad is a cancer, and my mom is a capricorn. My brother is a cancer. This somewhat facilitated/forced me to understand me better as a child.

Also, my rising sign and my moon in Aries really pushed me to do something which I would not normally do/act. My aries moon berserked(?) and caused a lot of trouble. When I woke up, my cap sun had to deal with its mess. Get the drift?

posted July 01, 2012 06:55 AM            

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Originally posted by Milkyshutter:
Anyway, this thread got my attention! I always thought that your sun sign is what you need to earn in this incarnation. Your moon sign is what you already mastered. However, once you grow and embrace your sun's energy, that is when great things start to happen in your life.

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That totally makes sense!

posted July 01, 2012 08:26 AM            

There are plenty of Cap Sun and Moon people who have other parts of their charts that give them a wild streak.

There seem to be two types of Capricorns in this regard. One… Caps who are strong in their Sign even when young, and who have ‘old heads on young shoulders‘. And two… Caps who go through chaos when they are young, and who grow into their sense of responsibility, or ‘Capricorness’ as they mature.

I’ve got a Capricorn Sun myself, and I’ve identified with it since a very young age… I was a ‘good girl’ in school, but also kind of a space cadet dreamer… I’ve got Moon in Cancer in the Pisces decan, and my Capricorn Sun is in the Pisces duad… So I can see the water in my personality as well. The sensitive dreamer archetype is definitely a strong part of the picture. I’ve always loved music, film, and books, and I’ve got a vivid imagination… I used to make-up fairytales and ghost stories to tell my cousins when we were kids… The fire planets in my chart probably had something to do with this as well (Asc, Mercury, Venus and Neptune all in Sagittarius, and Mars in Leo).

But back to the Capricorn issue, I was definitely a shy, kind of uptight child who HATED getting in trouble. In high school I cared a lot about my grades and did well in my classes. To me, doing well in school was very important because it would influence what I’d be able to do with my future. I was always the reliable, dependable sort and never went through a rebellious phase. Sometimes I felt lonely and misunderstood by my peers because they didn’t get why I couldn’t let loose, or why I took certain things so seriously. This made me frustrated. I used to look at all of the other ‘silly’ kids in school (The druggies\ The kids that smoked in bathrooms\ The drop-outs\ The hard core party goers\ And the slackers who flunked out of class) and think that they were all clueless fools for jeopardizing their futures… These days I’ve become a bit more understanding of people not always having the best of judgment when they were young. But, man, when I was girl, I had total distain for what I considered ‘idiotic behavior‘.

I think a certain kind of judgementalism is one of Cappie's weaknesses…. And the unevolved ones can be ruthlessly snotty at times. In my case my Cancer Moon made almost impossible to be mean to anyone, even if I did think they were an idiot, because I hated to see others suffer…. But I would keep my distance from what I saw as ‘trouble’…. Actually, I still keep my distance from ‘trouble’, only I’m less rigid in my approach to people. Ironically, when I had a crush it was always on someone very opposite to myself…. Someone more wild and crazy, more free…. Even if I didn’t approve of them, it’s like I couldn’t help but be attracted…Like I needed to be confronted with that type of energy.

The Cap Sun side of my nature has been very evident in my youth even though the only planet I have in Capricorn is the Sun. But in my case Saturn strongly aspects my chart. Saturn trines Venus, and sextiles my Sag Asc ruler Jupiter, all by less then a degree. Saturn is also conjunct my Mc by 3 degrees. I could see how those Caps (Sun or Moon) with harsh Mars or Uranus aspects in their charts (Especially if they have a bunch of planets in air and fire) might go through a rebellious phase in youth…

posted July 01, 2012 09:57 AM            

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I was the latter and I grew into a Capricorn. My grades were mediocre until grades started to matter, and then I got nothing but As. I was a rebellious child, and when I grew up, I remained rebellious attempting to defy everyone's low expectations of me.

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posted July 01, 2012 12:38 PM            

Saturn is planet of structure,and it is in Capricorn's karma to test/work it out/make it work. Also,never a crowd person,so often embarks on dictating tours and tries to figure out how society/firm function,like a dogmatic innovator,as oxymoronic as it sounds,out for a change but only to built new structure. Unlike Aqua,a Saturn's ******* child,or runway kid who finds order in chaos.

posted July 01, 2012 12:58 PM            

I moved out when I was 15 and then I left my country 3 years later. That was 17 years ago..In between I have gone tru periods of being very lost, very depressed, very rebellious and very childish. I am just now, at the age of 36 starting to "level out" mentally.

posted July 01, 2012 01:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Milkyshutter:
Anyway, this thread got my attention! I always thought that your sun sign is what you need to earn in this incarnation. Your moon sign is what you already mastered. However, once you grow and embrace your sun's energy, that is when great things start to happen in your life.

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Hmm never heard this. I don't believe in reincarnation, personally, but this could be applied to this life.

I am Gemini sun and Cancer moon. I feel more of a Cancer moon than Gemini sun, but I think you are right. Gemini is aspirational. I love this concept. I would like to start a whole thread on it!

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posted July 01, 2012 09:35 PM            

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I’ve seen things get a lot more difficult for Cap moons once the stability of living at home is gone… And I’m not old enough to have peers with Cap moons who are out of college yet so I’m not sure exactly how this plays out later down the line…

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posted July 01, 2012 10:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:Aside from the Capricorn aspect, you do know that suicide is the second leading cause of death among college students, correct?[/B]

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Yes correct I’m aware of the high suicide rate in college aged students, which doesn’t have anything to do with astrology.
All I meant is that from the Cap moons that I’ve known personally, seeming to have it “all together” so to speak is something they are able to pull of naturally which works well when you’re living at home and have that stability, but then to be thrown into a situation that is stressful and unstable and chaotic for EVERYONE, I think it might work to their detriment at first to want to appear so composed and together all the time, and not be able to talk about what they’re going through as freely….

My teenage sister is a Cap moon with a Leo sun, mercury, and venus and with all that Leo she is definitely not someone you would call reserved or timid, but she is a huge perfectionist when it comes to her grades, her appearance, her weight, etc. and she won’t admit when something is too difficult because she wants to seem like she can measure up in any situation. We have a close relationship so we talk to each other about personal things we’re going through, but I do worry about how she’s going to deal with all the stress and adjustments of college and how her perfectionism will play out once she’s on her own and not getting the constant support and recognitions she’s getting now in high school…

Anyway, I was just going off the people I know personally and wasn’t trying to make a blanket statement about all college aged Cap moons…

posted July 01, 2012 11:46 PM            

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All I meant is that from the Cap moons that I’ve known personally, seeming to have it “all together” so to speak is something they are able to pull of naturally which works well when you’re living at home and have that stability, but then to be thrown into a situation that is stressful and unstable and chaotic for EVERYONE, I think it might work to their detriment at first to want to appear so composed and together all the time, and not be able to talk about what they’re going through as freely….

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A person's ability to handle adulthood is greatly influenced by the parenting style with which they are raised. If the cap moon (or anyone for that matter) is raised using an authoritarian parenting style (i.e. do this because I said so!), then they will most likely struggle as adults because now they have to make their own rules and have no one telling them what to do.

I have a capricorn moon and I was expected to make my own decisions and plan for my future at the ripe old age of 6 years old. I was very much the "good girl" at all times (not just for appearances) to the point where my mom would beg me to get into trouble just once! Lol.

My childhood was quite tough at times, but life became easier as I grew older. I handled life just fine on my own when I left home. There was no downward spiral into drugs, alcohol or partying. I was still the same responsible person I had always been. A great deal of my being able to handle the lack of structure of adulthood probably was due to my mom's parenting style: she was authoritative: she set strict boundaries, but always gave me a proper reason for those boundaries. I do have to say that adulthood has been so much easier than my childhood. Life still sucks at times, but it's better than it was before!

It is true that capricorn moons have the remarkable ability to appear calm during chaotic situations. I can't speak for other capricorn moons, but I can say that I appear calm during chaotic situations because I really am calm. It is NOT for show. I'm too busy thinking of how to resolve the situation to think about how I'm feeling. Time is of the essence during chaotic and potentially dangerous situations. The goal of the capricorn moon is to quickly formulate a plan, execute it and figure out their own feelings later. I see this as more of an asset rather than a detriment since I know how to quickly problem solve in dangerous situations and keep those around me safe.