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Topic: Sidereal - Tropical charts comparison.
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ueharaa
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posted July 01, 2012 08:59 PM
  
I've recently become very interested in sidereal charts and comparing them to tropical charts, be it for the same individual or in synastry with someone else. But I am REALLY confused as to how to interpret it.What does the sidereal chart represent? Only the sign change from the tropical chart to the sidereal chart, how is this significant and how does it manifest? I also wonder how to interpret aspects (conjunctions, squares and oppositions) from a sidereal chart to a tropical chart.
For example my sidereal Venus is conjunct my tropical Neptune, how should I interpret it?
And in synastry with someone what if X'sun is conjunct Y's venus ? Would sidereal-tropical synastry aspect that provide attraction (such as venus-mars) be as potent and felt just as much as tropical-tropical aspects? Do they have the same meaning?
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FireMoon
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posted July 01, 2012 10:42 PM
I am really interested in this too!  From my understanding the sidereal chart is basically your Vedic astrology chart... Vedic astrology places the most importance on the Moon and Ascendant rather than the sun... It also considers certain signs and houses either benefic or malefic which is bascially either "good or bad" which I found to be more black and white then Western astrology. But I can identify with both systems.. But that is pretty much the extent of my knowledge on this subject so I hope someone who knows more can give more information!! IP: Logged |
ueharaa
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posted July 02, 2012 04:12 AM
Yes, Vedic astrlogy is based on the sidereal chart. But aside from reading the moon sign and the ascendant sign interpretation I don't know much about it (and vedic astrology seems to be very complicated with both malefic and benefic houses and planets, and sign ruler, house ruler must be taken into consideration .. I get really lost when I try ). And mainly I don't know how to use both the tropical chart (with western astrology) and sidereal chart (with vedic astrology) and if we can compare one to the other. I think they are both important but do not give the same kind of information about someone. That is just my personal feeling about it though, I may be wrong. I really hope someone can share some of his/her knowledge and opinion on this subject!  IP: Logged |
ueharaa
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posted July 03, 2012 08:18 PM
anyone?  IP: Logged |
violet7887
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Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 03, 2012 09:52 PM
uehaara,Sidereal astrology is Vedic. I am north Indian by background so I do know of its exsistance. And being intersted in astrology I came accross western first though because it is not through family but out of my own interest. I have tried all this time to take a look at vedic as well but that will take a lot of time. I guess we are on the same boat with that. I will tell you though that yes in Vedic, emphasis is put on Moon and Ascendant before sun from what I have seen. I first gulp to take it is that your signs are often changed. In Vedic I am a Gemini Moon as compared to my tropical Cancer Moon. But then I have also noticed that the discriptions for Gemini moon in western and Vedic vary. In western Gemini moon is said to be unemotional where Vedic Gemini moon is still mercruial but still said to be emotional. They discriptions more or less still are smimilar but there are differnces in Vedic discriptions on Signs. There are also "Nakshatra's" which is the range of 27 different constellations your Moon signs are under. I am just in the middle of something right now, but will get back to you on it with more info in a bit...
But in no I do not think thre is any links between sidereal to western or vice versa becasue they are just different methods as sidereal is just your chart 23 degrees back.
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ueharaa
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posted July 05, 2012 11:52 AM
thanks violet for those informations. I did a bit of reasearch on the forum and I found some interesting posts from iQ. I'm quoting thiso ne :
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Try thinking of the Draconic as the cumulative chart of the Soul including all past life experiences. The Draconic to Tropical will show you where the Karmic tendencies of the past will continue to play out, albeit in a more subtle way than the immediate past life karma which is shown by Asteroid KARMA, Nodes, Saturn, Neptune and Pluto in the present Tropical Chart.
Think of Sidereal as a Snapshot of Karmic Endings from the Immediate Past Lifeline.
So where the Sidereal Objects intersect the tropical is where you will actually detect karmic endings in the present lifeline.Like, if someone's Tropical Sun conjuncts your Sidereal Sun, you will be fully aware of an ending of karmic bonds with this person. You may even the lessons of how to complete the Tropical Sun mastery from this person. Look at your own chart for more. See if any Tropical object conjuncts a Sidereal Object. This is where you have completed the karma. And vice versa, if any Sidereal object conjuncts a Tropical Object, this is where you can grow by creating positive karma.
fromthis thread: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/206188.html I've also been wondering what could draco to sidereal synastry indicate. I find this very interesting though, wish I could understand better what karmic ending could mean according to the planet being aspected. IP: Logged |
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