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Lotis White
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posted July 05, 2012 04:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When we talk about synastry overlays, usually the focus is on how your partner’s planets fall into your chart and vice versa… And sometimes there is mention of the Asc also.

But I was wondering about what it feels like to have your partner’s Dsc in one of your houses. Can you feel it, if for example, your partner has their Dsc in your 4th house… And what does it feel like?

So, anyone who’s ever felt their partner’s Dsc in synastry let me know what was your experience? Same thing with the Mc/Ic… Have you felt these by house placements in synastry? I’d love to know.

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posted July 05, 2012 04:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is an interesting question.


My Mum`s DESC falls into my Dad`s 4th house, and my Dad`s DESC falls into my Mum`s 10th house, though emphasising the 4th-10th house axis. And it has always been clear to them that they would have a family together.

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posted July 05, 2012 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the example Ceridwen.

Seems like this thread isn’t making much progress… How about I pose a theory, and then you guys can let me know if it fits…

Okay, the Dsc represents our personal style of relating, and what we look for in partner relationships…. So whatever house the Dsc falls in through syanstry will show how that person impacts us with their style of relating… So when they’re acting for the purpose of relating, and forming a connection with you on a one on one basis, this area of life would be brought to your attention... Also, when they are demonstrating their personal independence, and showing you what they can ’do’, the opposite house, where the Asc falls will be activated.

The Asc is like a secondary Mars, in that it shows how we initiate and present ourselves as an independent entity. The Dsc is like a secondary Venus, it shows how we seek to connect with others, how we charm and cajole, and generally what behavior we assume when we invite someone to be our partner….

The Asc and Dsc are like a secondary Mars and Venus in our charts, and could be interpreted in perhaps a similar fashion when it comes to house overlays. The same could apply for the Mc and Ic. They could function as a secondary Saturn and Moon…. How our partner’s reputation, and hibernation tendencies effect us…

I’ll do a sample interpretation, to give you all an idea of what I mean.

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If your Dsc falls into the 5th house, then that person’s style of relating light up your experience child like joy, excitement, and romance. The 5th house represents what types of behavior makes us fall in love. It’s the house of giving love.

You may find that their style of relating is a real delight for you, and impresses you somehow (the 5th house also rules what impresses us). When this person is seeking to engage in union with you, their style of approach may awaken your sense of romantic idealism, and endear them to you in a heartfelt way…. The way this person naturally relates, would inspire feelings of adoration and love on your part.

Conversely, when this person asserted themselves as an individual, and went out into the world as a single entity, they’d light up the opposite house, the 11th…

Your observation of their temperament, and personal independence, would impact your perceptions on social dynamics, friendships, and group memberships. How this person takes initiative for themselves may bring you into contact with new friends, group get-togethers, and enliven your social scene.

Also, the 11th house represents what types of behavior makes us feel loved, and appreciated. It shows what makes us feel ‘welcome’ by others. The 11th house is the house of ‘receiving love‘… The opposite of the 5th house of ‘giving love‘. So a person with their Asc in your 11th house, would simply have a demeanor that makes you feel loved and wanted. How this person takes initiative would make you feel included in their life somehow, and it may even feel as if they are taking initiative on your behalf in some way.

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Hopefully, this example explains about the type of experience I’m talking about.

Tell us about how you feel the secondary Venus, Mars, Saturn, and Moon positions, in you and your partner’s charts, have effected each other in synastry. Some interesting real live examples would be awesome.

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posted July 05, 2012 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lotis.. I really like your in sight and your posts.. I learn a lot through you,

I will try to chim in here for you.

Im a Pisces Asc

My ex husband Virgo Asc..
His Asc is in my H6 but under my H7th ruler..

In the long run, I felt like I had to do everything.. He was always had some sort of problem..
He wanted me to do things to fix it...
This really started to bother me..
I started asking myself.. What am "I" the knight in shinning Armour?? Shouldnt it be the other way around??
I started to resent the fact I had to take care of things..
Even now that we are separated I HAVE to take care of things.
I have to be the one that takes our son to him, I have to go get him.. I have to make all the plans..
To get a divorce I "have" to be the one to do it.. As he cant..
This really really bothers me...

Im so tired of doing it all..

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posted July 06, 2012 04:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting Lioness. If his Asc was in your 6th house, then his Dsc was in your 12th house. Didn’t he wind up having a marriage that you didn’t know he was still in…..Kind of goes with the symbolism of his Dsc falling into your 12th house of secrets and the unknown.

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posted July 06, 2012 05:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oooops.

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posted July 06, 2012 07:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hers conjuncts my Sun. Technically her DSC is in my 11th House but it's on the border between 10th and 11th House. It's close but not conjunct my Mars and Mercury. And her ASC falls in my 5th House Conjunct North Node in Cancer. So, children are extremely important and my career is supported.

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posted July 06, 2012 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for redshift     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find this post very interesting. I'm trying to understand better though. In synastry, the way they relate to you when trying to commune with you is influenced by what house your dsc falls into on their chart? Or vice-versa? Pardon my lack of knowledge, but I'm trying to get this one right. Also, how does the sign of their dsc come into play in this?

If for example, my dsc in taurus falls into his 4th house and his dsc in cancer falls into my 8th house:

Would that mean he feels me relate to him on an earthy, slow and steady way that feels familiar and almost platonic and family like?

Whereas I would feel him relate to me on maybe a very emotional, sort of mysterious, upheaving sexual way? Have I got the right idea with that interpretation?

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posted July 06, 2012 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lotis White:
Interesting Lioness. If his Asc was in your 6th house, then his Dsc was in your 12th house. Didn’t he wind up having a marriage that you didn’t know he was still in…..Kind of goes with the symbolism of his Dsc falling into your 12th house of secrets and the unknown.

Yup.. Didn't think abut that.. Plus he was arrested, which is also h12 matters.

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posted July 07, 2012 03:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Junethird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi everyone,

Can i join in on the convo?

Lets see if i get this

Me:
My asc is in taurus 1st house
My dsc is in scorpio in the 7th

Him
His asc is in scorpio 12th
His dsc is in taurus in the 6th cusp 7th


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posted July 07, 2012 08:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Okay, the Dsc represents our personal style of relating, and what we look for in partner relationships…."

I find that very important to remember. Recently it seems like the DESC is only nbeing used as a marker of the partner, as if it din`t have anything to do with ourselves.
But even though, yes, it shows what is complimentary to us, what our partner might be like (or the relationship we need), it also shows how we relate to others.


"They could function as a secondary Saturn and Moon…."
Strange, for a moment I thought when I read it some days ago, you wrote secondary Sun and Moon.
I wonder how that "msiread" happened, cause I meant to point out that MC is a Saturnian symbol.
But of course this means it pairs up Moon and Saturn, which makes astronomically sense (Moon takes appr. 28/29 days for its cylce; Saturn takes 28/ 29 years).

But that of course leaves the question? What about the polarity of Sun and Moon?

But no matter how we answer that question, moon and Saturn ARE a pairing in terms of "practical soul- or lifemates".
Just like the IC and MC needs to harmonize (including their rulers of course) for being able to build a life together.

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posted July 07, 2012 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My partner's DSC falls in my first house.


How would I interpret that? He reinforces my identity?

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posted July 08, 2012 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by redshift:
I'm trying to understand better though. In synastry, the way they relate to you when trying to commune with you is influenced by what house your dsc falls into on their chart? Or vice-versa?

Vice-Versa. When they are seeking to commune with you, you'd feel THEIR Dsc falling into one of YOUR houses. Like their Dsc is the part of their personality that they use when trying to ignite a connection with you, kind of like a Venus.

You have a Cancer Dsc, so you'd use this part of your nature when establishing relationships with people. Perhaps you take extra care with people's feelings, or show a nurturing, caring attitude when seeking to relate. Look at what house your Cancer Dsc falls in your partner's chart to see how YOU affect them with your relating style. Also, look at your Dsc sign ruler for more detail on how your relate.

To see how your partner affects you, look at what house in your chart THEIR Dsc falls into. It will show how their relating style impacts you.

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posted July 08, 2012 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Junethird:
Hi everyone,

Can i join in on the convo?

Lets see if i get this

Me:
My asc is in taurus 1st house
My dsc is in scorpio in the 7th

Him
His asc is in scorpio 12th
His dsc is in taurus in the 6th cusp 7th


What I'm wondering is how YOU felt this... Could you actually feel his Asc in your 12th, and his Dsc in your 6th?

An example the Dsc in the 6th could be, did you find his relating style helpful on a practical level?

Or for his Asc in your 12th, did you feel like maybe he could 'read' into your private thoughts better then most.

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posted July 08, 2012 08:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So a guyS DESC is falling into my 9th house- his relating style triggers philosophical thoguhts in me? Making me maybe re-consider the way I have seen things in life before?


What about a guy`s DESC falling into my 7th house (which obviously means we have ASC-ASC-conjunction)? This one pops up so often for me.

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posted July 08, 2012 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for redshift     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh I see! Do you know, if his dsc is Taurus, right on the cusp of my 6th and 7th house, how that would manifest? edit: actually, it's in my 4th house. It's early in the morning for me... got confused.

So my cancer dsc, in his 8th house, that sounds pretty heavy maybe. Like he would feel my attempt to be emotionally nurturing most in a sort of inner, maybe even sexual way or maybe he feels like I nurture a change in him?

This is really fascinating to me to look at this area more. Am I on the right track now?

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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Vice-Versa. When they are seeking to commune with you, you'd feel THEIR Dsc falling into one of YOUR houses. Like their Dsc is the part of their personality that they use when trying to ignite a connection with you, kind of like a Venus.

You have a Cancer Dsc, so you'd use this part of your nature when establishing relationships with people. Perhaps you take extra care with people's feelings, or show a nurturing, caring attitude when seeking to relate. Look at what house your Cancer Dsc falls in your partner's chart to see how YOU affect them with your relating style. Also, look at your Dsc sign ruler for more detail on how your relate.

To see how your partner affects you, look at what house in your chart THEIR Dsc falls into. It will show how their relating style impacts you.


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posted July 08, 2012 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
But that of course leaves the question? What about the polarity of Sun and Moon?

But no matter how we answer that question, moon and Saturn ARE a pairing in terms of "practical soul- or lifemates".
Just like the IC and MC needs to harmonize (including their rulers of course) for being able to build a life together.


I think of the Sun and Saturn as different aspects of the 'father'....

The Sun is the playful, giving, larger then life Dad who spends time with his kids and teaches them things personally.... This is the Dad that you Love, and are impressed with... like he is a hero. The Sun, and the 5th house, seem to have a lot to do with adoration.

Saturn is the distant, authoritarian Dad who goes out into the world and establishes a reputation. And also the disciplinarian Dad that makes sure the kids follow the rules... This is the Dad that you respect, or even fear, with a type of reverence... The Mc, and Saturn, have to do with how you recognize formal leadership in others...

Funny thing, I've got Aries on the 5th house cusp, and the Mc and Saturn conjunct in Virgo... My Dad is an Aries, with Moon in Virgo. In my case, Dad shows in my chart very literally!

Anyway, Connections to the Moon, and the Ic, in syanstry represent being intimately familiar with another, like they are your kin.

I think both Saturn, and the Sun, can be paired with the Moon in a father/mother type unit. But the flavor of the paring is different.

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posted July 08, 2012 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lotis White:
I think both Saturn, and the Sun, can be paired with the Moon in a father/mother type unit. But the flavor of the paring is different.

I agree with you.

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posted July 09, 2012 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yvetterocks101     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a very interesting topic love it!!!

I always wonder how me and my best friend till this day are very close even though we have so many differences. Her Dsc is between my 10 and 11th house which i can understand now because we met through a group. I always try to help her much in career and be there for her. Her AC which is in saggitarius falls in my 4 house she says she always view me as a family then a friend. We havr gone on many trips together . Her asc conjunct my north node too which falls in my 4th house.

Then my AC in leo falls in her 9th house. I always challenge in pursue anything she puts her mind to as education or anything. Ive notice that the discussion we usually have between eath other are always deep and challenging. My Dc falls in her 3rd house, we met through school and i always view her more as my sister than a friend.

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posted July 09, 2012 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm this is interesting... I dated someone who's ascendant conjuncted mine in Cancer by 1 degree. So my descendant technically fell in his 6th house but I would consider it 7th as well since they're so close together.

We jumped straight into being in a relationship shortly after meeting, there was no getting to know each other as friends first or in any other context. This was the only way we communicated with each other was as a couple, it overshadowed everything else so that even if we wanted to just let loose and have a good time with other people, we would always end up bickering like a married couple lol I think we both hated it but couldn't seem to help ourselves. It was a heavy relationship for sure, we also had composite Sun conjunct Saturn in 7th house and composite moon very badly aspected...

The only other person I've dated that I actually knew their birth time was a fling I had with someone who's descendant fell in my 10th house, and mine in his 4th house. Overall it was more of a fun and carefree relationship with no strings attached (we have venus conjunct venus in Aqua lol) but we met in school and lived in the same building, so it was sort of a domestic situation in a way, and a lot of our communication centered around school and future life plans so I guess that's pretty 10th house oriented...

Also just wanted to add with his ASC in my 4th house, he was always offering to cook food for me whenever we hung out, which I enjoyed as I'm not the best chef myself lol

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posted September 10, 2012 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Popping back up!

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posted September 10, 2012 12:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
in my 1st house. scorpio.

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posted September 10, 2012 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My descendent is in her Eleventh House, while her's is in my Fourth House. I'm sorta confused as to how this might work...

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posted September 10, 2012 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great question Lotis. You are my kind of gal

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posted September 10, 2012 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgolotus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mostly 12th/1st house

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