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ScatterShock
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posted July 10, 2012 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScatterShock     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello, can anyone help me understand and work with my Mercury's squares?

I don't think that they are as energizing or dynamic as squares are said to be (seemingly in order to avoid calling them flat out problematic). My Mercury's got only squares, at that. I am very awkward about talking to anyone I don't know well, and I take a long time to write things. I am not good at keeping in touch with people (I will care about them and think about them, but writing and stuff like that is hard), and I feel very awkward about trying to write my feelings to others. It's as if I have to come up with the best words, and since they aren't good enough, I give up and just do something else to stop thinking about the failure. I find myself making a lot of mistakes if I don't pay careful attention to my writing (and I edit a lot), which is why I have to move so slowly.

With Mercury square Mars, I have read that it tends to make for a sharp tongue and a quick temper. I actively try not to let on that I have these things. If I am supposed to have a tendency to lash out verbally with this aspect, it's not there. I hold myself back, because I am so afraid of conflict, even if it's just with words.

Mercury square Neptune supposedly makes for a hard time separating logic and fantasy. I don't think that I have this problem, but I avoid places where I would be forced to be super logical (debates of any kind, class discussions, that sort of thing), and I daydream a lot. Also, I am very easily distracted, which might be connected to this aspect, but it could be because of other things. I don't know. I read from someone with this aspect once that they have an ability to be vague and specific at the same time. I definitely do that.

I wouldn't have counted this, but Mercury squares Chiron near-perfectly in my houseless chart. And with the little bit that I've found on these planets together, it's become quite relevant. I am afraid to express myself. I have a hard time talking about myself and I feel lost whenever I have to try. And yet, when I wish to seek help or I am unhappy, I think that the words spring to mind easily. It's frustrating. And when I think about it, I have a painful relationship with communicating with others because as much as I want to do it, I am afraid of being scrutinized and picked apart at every turn or, alternately, being ignored. Even typing this now freaks me out because I know that once it's online, I have to let these words exist on their own. But as with all of the questions I've asked, I care more about reaching out for help and advice than keeping myself closed off.


Whenever I ask questions on here, I feel like I'm being a downer. I'm sorry about that.
It's just that I have so many questions about things that I feel like knowing my chart better might help me solve: in this case, I hope to learn how I can turn these Mercurial Difficulties into positives.


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VenusDiSirius
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posted July 10, 2012 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my experience,Mercury can work in wide orbs so we may consider that Merc sq Nep 6 degree aspect - how about your rections,are you quick to react,or not so good with reflexes?
Merc sq Mars does love to debate,I think your problem lies somewhere else,but no rising sign so we can look at H3 ruler or planets.

Merc sq Nep is very internalized,similar to Merc Rx,you are good at discussing stuff with yourself,sort of speak,no need to talk it out. The danger with this is flawed judgement and perception,confusion and delusion.

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sand
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posted July 10, 2012 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am the same. Taurus with merc in Aries. Idk how old u r but I wasn't the best communicator as well when I was in college several years ago. Idk what has changed but I think Pluto in h3 has helped me be more authoritative IRL. I also have Chiron in Gemini.

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ScatterShock
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posted July 10, 2012 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScatterShock     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello again VenusDiSirius, thanks for visiting!

I have quite good reflexes, I think. Sometimes, though, if I move too quickly to catch something, it might bounce in my hand and I'll drop it anyway.
Hmm, I'll definitely revisit this issue overall when I have my complete chart- my awkwardness and fear towards communication is a pretty big deal with me.

Oh, good: the danger side applies a bit too well to me. *sigh* But the part about being able to go over things with myself fits also. Yea, I feel like this is the most obvious aspect I have when it comes to Mercury (despite it also having the widest orb)... Is there anything I can do to work around it, maybe? I guess that would take more information.


Thanks for responding, Sand! I hope that I will be able to grow more confident in my ability to talk to people both formally and informally. I'm kind of awkward about mentioning my age straight-forwardly, but I certainly feel better thinking about this as something I might grow out of!

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ail221
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posted July 10, 2012 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have mercury square mars 8 aspecting and mercury square Pluto 3 I probably feel Mercury Square Pluto the most. With this aspect you become more aware of everything a person is saying even the unconscious meaning. My mother calls me the human lie detector. I can notice more subtle forms of non-verbal communication and body language, thus creating a reliable indicator of true feelings. For me non-verbal communication is more important than a simple verbal statement. The problem is this creates conflict for me because I have so many planets focusing on the third house and I can be very distrusting or suspicious of people's actions.
On the upside I feel that once the hard aspect is overcome that perceptive nature can be redirected in more positive light.


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sweet-scorpion
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posted July 10, 2012 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the Neptune square is a huge indicator of why your Mars square seems to be canceled out.

I have Cancer Mars squaring my (Scorpio) Mercury too. And you are correct, this does make you have a tendency to argue and sometimes verbally go off the handle and say stuff that comes back to haunt you. Seeing as you've got Mars in emotional, mood-driven Cancer and Mercury in a bold and forthright Aries, it is surprising as you said, that you do not feel the Mars square Mercury aspect more.

The Neptune square is causing tension to your Mercury. Making you have that evident doubt about asserting your actions; making you most likely, internalize a lot of that hot Mars-Merc square energy, which isn't good for you. Also, the Chiron square is a definite indicator. Chiron is our wound and where we can feel most vulnerable; adding the square to your Mercury transfers the wound into areas of expression and communication. So you might feel very self-consious, unsure, second-guessing and insecure due to the Chiron and Neptune squaring your Mercury... which is trumping that Mars square.

The way you even said that you feel like you are a downer shows the unnecessary guilt Chiron causes in terms of communication. With the Chiron square you need to learn to express the nature of the planet and the sign it is in, WITHOUT feeling that sense of guilt and/or insecurity. I have Chiron-Moon conjunction and I can feel extremely, unreasonably guilty for showing people my deepest feelings... but over the years I'm coming to see, there is no reason for me to be this way and hiding my feelings just makes the wound deeper instead of healed. If you actually face your deep wound instead of giving in to avoiding facing it, it heals itself; so in your cause, communicating more and more flexibly, openly and without doubt will feel very difficult at first but will definitely heal you and allow you to trump the square. It's interesting to note that Chiron is the centaur/body between Uranus and Saturn. You need to incorporate those radical and sometimes, off-balancing actions to face your fears of the wound (Uranus) to gain maturity, stability and an ability to express the planet's sign and nature (Saturn).

I hope this answers the question for you and helped somewhat. Take care!

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ScatterShock
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posted July 11, 2012 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScatterShock     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much for posting Sweet-Scorpion!

There is so much here for me to think about! I should have guessed that the square to Mars could be de-powered by the other squares and kept in mind that with an Aries Mercury, I definitely shouldn't be so afraid to speak my mind!

I guess that's the answer, then: I have to push myself to start speaking my mind (as scary as that is when I care about not stepping on toes). I'm just afraid (it's practically cyclical. *sigh*) that if I don't, I might go in the opposite direction; arguing and carrying on about everything and unloading my bad moods on others. I want to be as comfortable expressing myself as those around me are, but it's like, if I was ever straight-forwardly angry instead of just seething in a corner, I'll be a bad person or something. Letting my bad feelings eat at me (at least until I was alone) felt more right, even though I knew that it wasn't good.
I'll hope to have no more of that over time.
I am encouraged by your words- and still a little scared- but I'll start trying. Thank you again!

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posted July 11, 2012 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScatterShock     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello ail221!
I hope you don't mind my asking but, since you feel your Mercury Square Pluto more than the square to Mars, do you find you have no trouble keeping argumentativeness or a tendency to shout at bay? Like, do you find that, while you might want call someone out on something negative you perceive through the Pluto connection, you can easily decide not to because the Mars connection is weaker?

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posted July 12, 2012 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScatterShock     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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