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Lotis White
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posted July 15, 2012 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
THE VERTEX AND MAKING AN IMPRESSION

I’ve given this some thought and I feel as if I’m starting to grasp what the Vertex means in our natal chart on a deeper level. I’ll get to this point as I explain what I mean.

The Vertex axis in general…. It seems to refer to the part of the chart where we are inspired, or forced towards change… It can be an actual change in our circumstances, or a change in our perspective. When people have important parts of their charts aspecting the Vertex axis in our chart, they are able to create an ‘imprint’ on our psyche, and become very influential on our understanding of things… As an example, either positive or negative of what we do, or do not, want to aspire to.

The Vertex axis is associated with fate and synchronicity. And also with wish fulfillment and important turning points in our lives. Having someone strongly aspect your Vertex, or having it aspected by transits, often brings you into contact with something you’ve always longed for, or that you need… The right information, a certain kind of situation, or an exciting interesting person…. The Vertex Axis puts you into contact with that which feels profoundly relevant for you. The having the Vertex activated can feel a bit like being struck by lightening. Like you have a sudden feeling of eureka!! This is it! (whatever it was that you needed or wanted).

As for the distinction between the Vertex and the Antivertex…. I haven’t really noticed any difference between what happened when my Vertex was activated, compared to what happened when my Anitvertex was activated. There may be a distinction but personally I’ve yet to decipher it.

What I have noticed is that how the Vertex is aspected in your chart does seem to have some affect as to your position in society, or the role that you play in the world… For example, I have Uranus conjunct my Antivertex, and opposed my Vertex, and I’ve always felt like people see me as particularly unusual in some way, like I operate on a different frequency somehow… I’d recommend looking at how the Vertex is aspected in your natal for some extra clues as to how you fit into the population around you, and what your role is… This is not the same as the Mc, which is your status, official post… Or the 11th house, which is how you fit in with your friends, or groups that you to belong to…Or the Asc, which is your temperament/demeanor style and outlook… Rather, it represents a very how you make an impression on people’s minds, and what they are most likely to remember about you.

Your vertex axis by signs, rulers, and aspects…. May show what stands out about you, and sticks in peoples minds… It’s what the local gossip mongers might say about you at the water cooler, whether they know you or not. The Vertex has to do with impressions that have an influence on what people value, and the decisions that they make. When someone influences your Vertex they have an impact on your perspective, and seem to create a revelation in your mind… I strongly suspect that the Vertex in our natal charts shows our own style of doing this to others in general… It shows our style creating imprints on peoples minds, how we are remembered by others in general, and how we have a pivotal influence on others people’s perspectives and choices…. In a way the Vertex is like a song that you can’t get out of your head…. And the Vertex axis is in our chart is like our personal song that other people remember when they think of us. This may be why when people have conjunctions to either end of the axis, or any aspect to our Vertex in synastry it feels like they ‘get’ us.

Looking at the houses, signs, and aspects to the Vertex axis, may show how and where we stick in people’s minds… And the context with which we make an influential impression on people. Just as it shows what makes an impression on us, and what stands out to us. As if the Vertex is a portal that can have impressions coming in and going out….

I hope this makes sense. Please give me some feedback and tell how this theory fits for you.

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posted July 15, 2012 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Vertex 24 Aquarius h4
Anti vertex 24 Leo h10

Vertex ruler is my unaspected Uranus h2.
Anti vertex ruler is my Sun in h7.

my vertex squares mars h1 and Sextiles mercury h6.

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posted July 15, 2012 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great post Lotis! Very informative and cool.

I also have Uranus conjunction Neptune opposite my Vertex, therefore conjunct the anti vertex. I agree that for me, the Uranus-Vertex opposition has supported how others have seen me as really Uranian - somewhat unconventional, a unique dresser but gifted and bright. The Neptune supports how others have easily guessed by my appearance and what I like that I'm a deeply artistic type.

I also have my Vertex conjunct Mars in Cancer in the 8th, and trine Pluto. I think this is why I can come across as quite Scorpio at times versus Libra Sun to others I've just met and also people I am close to. I can surprise them with my emotional depth. And also, the tenacity of my will. I'm not sure about the Mars conjunction though - does this make people see me as more Aries? Or maybe just a strong yet emotionally soft person deep down? (I say this also since my Vertex ruler would be the Moon, but my Moon is in Virgo conjunct Chiron.)

My Saturn conjuncts my cousin's vertex in the 6th house. He has Uranus there. So I wonder if somewhere down the line I'll lend him a hand getting work and leading a more stable life?

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posted July 16, 2012 12:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do you find your anti vertex? I'm assume it's the same as ASC, DSC... just the opposite sign. What's the anti vertex represent, if the vertex is your soul mate (and the other things you mentioned)

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posted July 16, 2012 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for depth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My vertex is in virgo in my 7h, opp/c0nj n0thing. I'm very chamele0n like and people see that what I want them to see. My anti-vertex falls in pisces, my 1h. But all my pers0nal planets are in mutable signs and my asc ruler c0njs nept in the 12th. So I can't say if it's the anti-vertex or the chart ruler.

0ne pers0n who changed me drastically, left an imprint, had his descendant c0nj my vertex. I used to n0t believe in love and stuff. Then, walked in this virgo and made my heart flutter. Since then, I quit under estimating the vertex.

2 of my female friends have their m0on on my vertex. 0ne of them, a scorpi0, played an important role in my transformative years. The other was the 1st pers0n I cared for as a friend. This aqua taught me true friendship.
An0ther aqua friend has her m0on on my vertex and saturn on my anti-vertex. She has these plans of doing her masters fr0m the same c0llege as I and initially, thought I was an aqua t0o. C0ntrarily, I d0n't see her as s0me0ne important. We always end up in the same team. Our working styles differ and we both are stubborn and d0mineering so we get into a whole lot of arguments. I'm with her for an0ther 1.6 year so let's see what happens.

A male friend of 3 years has his virgo Sun/Merc on my vertex. I d0n't keep in touch with people generally but when it c0mes to him, it's different. I facebo0k him everyday and he calls up regularly. We hang out a lot when we're in the same c0untry. He hasn't d0ne anything mem0rable yet, s0mething that could leave an imprint. A lot of people say we should get together. Our planetary c0nfigurati0ns are similar but we're very very very different in real life. He's a super cold aqua m0on/asc (but thinks he's hot). I'm c0mparatively warm.

My parents have their generati0nal pluto on my vertex. My m0m's a scorpio sun/merc/jupiter/nept/nn0de. My dad has a 4h pluto, scorp desc/jupiter/nept. They obviously are important people.

All important people have their planets c0njunct/opp my vertex.

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posted July 16, 2012 01:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
How do you find your anti vertex? I'm assume it's the same as ASC, DSC... just the opposite sign. What's the anti vertex represent, if the vertex is your soul mate (and the other things you mentioned)

Did you read everything I wrote? Cause I’ve already answered half of your question in my essay. I haven’t noticed a difference between the Vertex and the Antivertex in terms of what happens in synastry and transits. Yes, the Antivertex is exactly opposite the Vertex… And I look at the entire Axis, not just the Vertex. I look at the sign, and ruler of my Vertex, and the sign and ruler of my Antivertex, as well as any aspects from planets in my natal to the Vertex Axis, especially conjunctions to either end of it.

The Vertex Axis is very potent and exciting in synastry. You mentioned soul mates… The Vertex and can make things feel like they are meant to be…. But it doesn’t guarantee anything lasting. To me, long term compatibility has to do with the entire synastry as a whole, and fun Vertex Axis connection are just a part of that whole picture.

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posted July 16, 2012 04:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The Vertex has been called the electrical axis of the chart. It is conjunct Uranus, the planet that rules electricity. This conjunction can give most unusual and astonishing experiences (...) Uranus conjunct Vertex would give a considerable amount of electrical energy. Electrical energy has often been noted around people who manifest unusual abilities. Alice Portman

Won't go into detail but my Vertex is conj Uranus and this is all true for me.
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If it has a planet or Node conjunct, it often becomes an over-riding force that makes the Vertex and that planet stronger than anything else in the chart, including a planet conjunct the Ascendant or MC. Noel Tyl

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posted July 16, 2012 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great work Lotis, I always enjoy your vertex posts, they have helped me gain a better understanding of it, especially in synastry. I've got the venus conj vertex dw with my fiance right now and its amazing, everything you describe is so spot on.

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posted July 16, 2012 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lotis White     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by scrappydog:
Great work Lotis, I always enjoy your vertex posts, they have helped me gain a better understanding of it, especially in synastry. I've got the venus conj vertex dw with my fiance right now and its amazing, everything you describe is so spot on.

Thanks so much for the feedback Scrappydog. It’s great to get some confirmation that I’m headed in the right direction. Venus conjunct Vertex dw sounds amazing.

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posted July 16, 2012 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Lotis..

My vertex is in Virgo in H7..
My Vertex conjuncts Psyche/Ceres

Mercury rules my vertex..
I have Mercury conjunct Sun/Moon

I have always felt that my relationships with other people, regardless of the type of relationship. These relationships are part of my destiny and its all part of the grand plan..
Anyone that isnt part of that "plan" I just wont connect with..
Thats how I feel.

Also ironically, my NN is not aspected. Its up to others to come along and activated my NN. (or transits) which is rare.. T.Sun,moon,merc,mars,venus.. Doesnt seem to have much affect..
The slower moving planets have a bigger effect. Or other peoples planets.

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posted July 17, 2012 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpy_oh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lotis White,

before your article, i've only viewed the vertex as a sensitive point in the chart that refers to fated connections. it is very interesting that it can also represent the impression that we make on people. i can't find the link now, but i've read that the vertex represents our soul's energy in its purest form which is why contacts to it are so pivotal. man, i wish i could find that link. i feel like i'm not doing it any justice lol.

my 5th house vertex is in libra. the only aspect worth noting is that it is trine my MC within a degree. i don't know if it's considered significant though. will elaborate more later about how it affects me.

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posted July 17, 2012 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for allouette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"The Vertex has to do with impressions that have an influence on what people value, and the decisions that they make. When someone influences your Vertex they have an impact on your perspective, and seem to create a revelation in your mind… I strongly suspect that the Vertex in our natal charts shows our own style of doing this to others in general… It shows our style creating imprints on peoples minds, how we are remembered by others in general, and how we have a pivotal influence on others people’s perspectives and choices…. In a way the Vertex is like a song that you can’t get out of your head…. And the Vertex axis is in our chart is like our personal song that other people remember when they think of us."

Interesting.

For me it's very difficult to understand Vertex as a separate entity, as mine conjuncts my Sun almost exact.

And not only Sun, but also Pluto. I have:

Sun - 28°40'
Vertex - 29° 0'
Pluto - 29° 20'

So Vertex is also my Sun-Pluto midpoint. I have this in Libra, in the sixth house.

Lotis, it would be great to hear your comments. I am especially interested in your perspective on Vetex conjuncting the Sun, and how would this fit in "our style creating imprints on peoples minds", would it be a like a personalitiy expressed on steroids maybe? I know people perceive me as a very strong person (because I am, lol) but I've always put this on Pluto. What role would Vertex play, in your opinion?

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posted July 18, 2012 04:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great post again, Lotiswhite!

So let`s see:

Vertex in Cancer in 8th house,
widely conjunct Saturn (4 degrees)
(exactly conjunct asteroid EROS).

Ruler Moon in Aquarius in 2nd house

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Antivertex in Cap in 2nd house
ruler Saturn in Cancer in 8th house conjunct Vertex

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The axis itself overlays the Sun/Moon-mp axis exactly

the rulers, Moon and Saturn, themselves, are exactly quinkunx, making a reception between 2nd and 8th house.
And this Moon-Saturn-aspect even though it is ONLY a quinkunx seems to stand out about me, yes, definitely.


Vertex axis itself is also square Chiron by 1 degree.


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As a matter of fact there is a "Fist of God", involving Vertex.

Chiron in Aries in 4th house
squares Vertex in Cancer in 8th house

and both are sesisquare
Mars in Sagittarius in 12th house

I guess it is a potentially deep entanglement with it happening in the waterhouses. But then with Vertex in Cancer and 8th house what else would you expect?

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posted July 19, 2012 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting lotus.

My amor 26 conj wertex 26 in SAG, house 5. On the two times I was pregnant transit jupiter, uranus, saturn and neptun was in conj....

Antiwertex conj N Venus in house 11. I meet new people all the time like everyone who have the same job as me....

Ive no ide how how I been on peoples mind. I wish my effect are positive and good... I Will guess amor conj wertex on GC help

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posted August 06, 2014 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 28, 2017 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 8ofHearts     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Vertex is at the end of my 6th house, about 3 degrees away from my natal DESC in 29 Pisces. I notice I am very magnetized to folks with North Node in Pisces from 1969 as well as Virgo north node throughout most of 1978. The Pisces north nodes also typically have Pluto conj my Anti-vertex & ASC. Also, anyone who's ASC is around 26 Gem or Virgo tends to hook into this and my angles (My chart is symmetrical w/ all angles in mutable signs at 29 degrees.)

Maybe the North Node in late Virgo is ultimately better? It puts my ASC conj their North Node and their South Node conj my DESC/Vertex?

I've come to the point where I ignore most of the basic synastry, it seems to always come down to nodes, vertex, chart angles, Saturn and Sun/Moon & a few other midpoints.

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