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pasr2210
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posted July 18, 2012 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pasr2210     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello, can anyone let me know what my packed 4th house (in Capricorn) means? I have Mercury, Uranus, Neptune & Saturn all in my 4th. I think this is common for people born around 1989, but I'd like to know more about it (aspects, how it affects other things in my chart--specifically my aries moon in 7th)

I am a bit worried because I have had a somewhat "unstable" or insecure home life. Parents divorced, close with my parents/family but often feel obligated towards them because of certain situations, house burned down when I was 16...etc.

here's my chart
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55622288@N02/7600768628/


astro_2gw_01_paige_he.5473.19600 by psteelerollins, on Flickr

thank you!

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AscTaurus
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posted July 19, 2012 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I posted a topic on " Dominant Houses" a couple of days ago.It may not offer you solutions but it may help you gain further insight about this stellium.

Also, try to Google "Stellium in 4th" and see what you come up with.

I have a Stellium in 8th(Sun, Jupiter,Uranus,Neptune).The issues in my life are very much Scorpio/8th house related(I also have Scorpio dominant. Yikes!)

Though most people had planets there in 1983,I have found that the house placements are more differentiating.

Good Luck!

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Lonake
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posted July 19, 2012 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You could start by researching the houses they rule because all that energy'll be brought to the 4th.

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pasr2210
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posted July 19, 2012 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pasr2210     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you AscTaurus-- that article definitely applies to me & my 4th house. I LOVE history/archaeology/etc and I would enjoy a career those areas. Interesting that it says I shouldn't just focus on my past-- I am the genealogy buff in my family!

Lonake--thank you, I hadn't thought about looking at the planet's rulers & applying that to my 4th. I can definitely see energy from those rulers applied to my home life/personal security.

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TensionEmpire
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posted January 11, 2017 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also have that exact stellium, Hand worrie also sometimes cuz i still live with them

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Kiimberly
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posted January 11, 2017 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kiimberly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a fourth house Capricorn stellium too. Uranus, Neptune, Saturn, sun, north node (plus Aquarius venus there). I find sometimes Cancer descriptions fit very well, also. Themes of the home, instability or discomfort (Uranus), a lot of finding roots and home related turmoil. Consider how close these objects are to your IC/opposite your MC. Consider your tenth house (as a fellow libra rising (I assume), houses are flipped. Cancer rules the fourth traditionally, but its opposite sign Capricorn is there instead). You may struggle with balancing this axis of the external and the internal.

So I would suggest starting by learning as much as you can about houses 4 & 10 and about Cancer & Capricorn. Then Apply what you know about your planets here to these themes.

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TensionEmpire
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posted January 11, 2017 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Kiimberly,
I also have the NN there like you, my Sun also plays a role but on the other side in Cancer, where actually my mercury also is.

My IC is touched by lilith in one side and Uranus from the other.

I was reading about lilith in the 4th, and it seems you wound stand still at home with that

I also feel the need to acomplish something trough my own work

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posted January 11, 2017 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beautiful_Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excellent analysis, Kiimberly.

TE - I've also got BML conj IC; mine is also conjunct my Part of Fortune.

Pasr, like you I had a very unstable, even distressing childhood and I am also fascinated by history, archaeology and genealogy. I'm a Libra rising with Uranus, Neptune, North Node and Saturn in 4th house. The dynamic of Capricorn/Cancer puzzled me for a while, until I looked at my 9th Harmonic and saw my North Node in Cancer (4th house of Zodiac) and South Node in Capricorn. Interestingly, as you get higher up in the harmonics, the North and South Nodes become one.

So I have now realized my direction in life is fully towards 4th house/Cancer matters and away from 10th house/Capricorn issues. When I take care of the 4th house, 10th house will take care of itself .

For ruler placements, I would look into your 9th harmonic as well, as those planets will be in different houses than your 4th, and things will really start to make sense.

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TensionEmpire
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posted January 11, 2017 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what do you think about Lilith on the IC?

and what is the 9th harmonic?

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Beautiful_Light
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posted January 12, 2017 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beautiful_Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TensionEmpire:
what do you think about Lilith on the IC?

and what is the 9th harmonic?



Apparently it's a close-up view of your 9th house. I'm not sure how it works, exactly, but I've found that my 9th harmonic chart is a better representation of who I am, while the birth chart is used for synastry, transits and predictions.

Lilith on IC is still a mystery, but I guess it is prominently placed. Is yours technically in your 3rd house?

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TensionEmpire
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posted January 12, 2017 04:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah, technically on my 3th house, 3 degrees apart from IC.

you where also born in 91?

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posted January 12, 2017 06:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beautiful_Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, on the last degree of Taurus, 15:30 PM . You?

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Electro DGX
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posted January 12, 2017 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Electro DGX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a fourth house stellium. In equal houses my Mercury, Sun, Venus, Uranus, Neptune, and SN all fall in my fourth house. My Sun has an exact conjunction to my IC.

It makes me very emotional and I would say that it makes me more in touch with my Moon than my Sun. With all of my planets in the fourth house, it goes to my Moon, which is in my eighth house. I often spend a lot of my time alone diving deep into myself and trying to figure out everything about who I am and why I do the things I do. I am always thinking about what is going on inside of me and I am always trying to figure out who I am. I am very interested in my roots and I would say that my fourth house stellium is a primary reason as to why I got interested in astrology in the first place.

I don't like when I go to read an interpretation of a planet in the fourth house and read something about how my house is going to look, which I come across all the time online. It is a very stereotyped generalization and it never goes into the depths of how this planets energy works within the fourth house. I can definitely assure that I would not be as emotional as I am if I had a third house stellium instead of a fourth house stellium.

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TensionEmpire
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posted January 12, 2017 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Beautiful_Light:
Yes, on the last degree of Taurus, 15:30 PM . You?

in the Summer of 91 , 13:20 PM, I`m a SunnyBoy, a Cancer
a lot happened in 91!

EDIT.: Asteroid angel has the number 11911, 1991 , <> ,


Electro,
I also like to find out about my roots!
Like the other thay that I found out that the english language comes from a dialect from the North of Germany, "plattdeutsch"

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Beautiful_Light
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posted January 13, 2017 02:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beautiful_Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TensionEmpire:
in the Summer of 91 , 13:20 PM, I`m a SunnyBoy, a Cancer
a lot happened in 91!

EDIT.: Asteroid angel has the number 11911, 1991 , <> ,



Nice, which degree of Cancer? Is your Sun conjunct your South Node?

Really, like what kinds of things? Is your Angel prominently placed? Mine is near my ASC

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TensionEmpire
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posted January 14, 2017 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Nice, which degree of Cancer? Is your Sun conjunct your South Node?

Really, like what kinds of things? Is your Angel prominently placed? Mine is near my ASC [/B][/QUOTE]


it is 8 degrees apart from my SN, my sun is on the 11 degree.

yeah! mine is also close to my Acc!

Like historicall thinks, a lot of countrys on the eastern Europe got independent.

and good music came out also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTWKbfoikeg

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Beautiful_Light
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posted January 14, 2017 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beautiful_Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, you're right about that!

Oh cool, I think my North Node and yours are about a degree apart, then. It'll be interesting what happens when Pluto and then Saturn transits our North Node.

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TensionEmpire
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posted January 15, 2017 05:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TensionEmpire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah, right?
I haven`t read on it, but yeah.. haha

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