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RunAroundScreaming
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posted July 21, 2012 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'm specifically talking about the composite sun being in negative aspect to pluto here, with the composite love stellium also in place. I've encountered this configuration about 5 times and each time there was a lot of love and fascination between me and the other person. The first time I met a girl I had that with was maybe a year ago, and it's very awkward for sure. We think the other is hysterical (this has been pretty much the case in all 5 instances, and also they can affect me emotionally in other ways--like just by their facial expressions or just their eye contact for example) but because it's a square and we feel out of control around each other, we avoid each other. You always hear about people being too scared to enter intense pluto relationships (i consider those the pluto square kind..because trines are just dandy..they work like a well oiled machine and pluto feels awesome in trines but feels scary with squares). And so recently I met a toddler who i had this configuration with. That's the story i wanted to share. I work with kids with autism, and i work in the toddlers section where most of the kids are predicted to be somewhere on the spectrum. Well, this little boy is around 2, and we have a bond where he will get really happy when he's around me and we have a lot of fun playing around. But our eye contact is also way too intense and way too much for even me to handle sometimes. And i noticed he has started to cover his eyes and squint so he doesnt have to look at me whenever i approach him. That's the most adorable thing, but also, it's crazy. I hate composite sun square pluto with the love stellium because its very intense but also scary so that you want to run away and avoid that person. It's funny how it's happened with all the 5 people ive met that i had that with, and now even this toddler avoids me. to be honest, i avoid him too. It's just too intense. Even with a toddler! that's just fascinating how astrology works no matter what the age is. It's adorable at the same time, because i'll be sitting out of some activity theyre doing, just watching everyone, and he'll look at me and smile just the most peaceful smile. We definitely have a bond, like ive had with all people i had this configuration with. But pluto squares are just disappointing because you think it's going to be great forever, until you realize the power struggle interplay is going to start kicking in, because it's too intense, and then it's over before you know it. Sucks. lol.

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posted July 22, 2012 03:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for twinswans     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey !

You've seen my chart... In that we have Composite Pluto-Ascendant conjunction in Trine to sun...and the love stellium is there too...
The intensity is very much there and i totally agree with the affect of the other person's facial expressions and eye contact..!
But dont feel like avoiding or anything like that , maybe because its not the Square.

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posted July 22, 2012 03:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey there. i 'member you

hmm....wellll..the intensity of composite sun sq pluto doesnt really compare to composite sun trine pluto. Sun trine pluto seems to be a lot more subtle for some reason, and its def not obsessive. I'm not really sure why but it's even much less noticeable than any other composite pluto aspect. You probably have some other pluto there in synastry that is making it obsessive or extra intense...or perhaps a minor negative aspect with pluto in the composite, like composite moon or venus semisquare or sesquiquadrate pluto maybe. But in reference to what I was talking about before....for example, composite moon trine or sextile pluto and composite venus trine or sextile pluto are felt a lot more strongly. It does mean ur partner will inspire you, and u will bond in a meaningful way, but it wont be nearly as in your face as other pluto aspects. I dont know why that is with sun trine pluto. It's kind of the same in synastry. Moon trine pluto and venus trine pluto is ten times more felt than sun trine pluto. It's probably cuz the venus and moon are so much more receptive to pluto, and in sun square pluto, well pluto squares are almost always felt strongly, and in an obsessive way.


But thanks so much for sharing. I imagine you understand at least a bit how i feel
It's just disappointing that with composite sun square pluto its always so healing at first, and u think that's going to continue, but then its too intense to maintain and both people feel like running away...and then the infamous negatively aspected pluto power struggle ensues of course.

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posted July 22, 2012 03:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for twinswans     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know !
i too dont understand where the plutonian feelings come from......
We have very few Ptolemaic aspects with pluto.
in synastry, sun sextile pluto, mars square pluto, our plutos sextile each other's ascendant and saturn trine pluto.
and composite mars square pluto ( other than conjunct ascendant and trine to sun).
But we do have minor aspects......
in synastry, moon quindecile pluto (both ways!) and mercury quindecile pluto.
In composite, pluto-ascendant quindecile moon, and quintile Venus.
Maybe it must be because of these aspects.

But, well, i myself have Venus Retrograde in Pisces in the 8th house...so that might be making a major Contribution...LOL

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posted July 22, 2012 03:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for twinswans     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
But thanks so much for sharing. I imagine you understand at least a bit how i feel
It's just disappointing that with composite sun square pluto its always so healing at first, and u think that's going to continue, but then its too intense to maintain and both people feel like running away...and then the infamous negatively aspected pluto power struggle ensues of course.

Ya this is sad...since its Sun square pluto, it might make the intensity and power struggles and what not, the major theme in the relationship......
But atleast its good that you're aware of this issue na, it might be difficult but maybe you can focus on the positives of this aspect and have meaningful relationships with them, if you want to that is...Especially the toddler, aww....we dont want a Composite sun square pluto to come in between and try to ruin things!

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posted July 22, 2012 04:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by twinswans:
Especially the toddler, aww....we dont want a Composite sun square pluto to come in between and try to ruin things.

Awww yep. he's a sweetie. He comes up to me and gives me a sad face and pulls me and starts running because he wants me to play with him by running after him and tickling him when i catch him lol. He also sometimes randomly holds my hand its so cute lol. yep, i will miss him. a lot.

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posted July 22, 2012 04:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for twinswans     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Awww yep. he's a sweetie. He comes up to me and gives me a sad face and pulls me and starts running because he wants me to play with him by running after him and tickling him when i catch him lol. He also sometimes randomly holds my hand its so cute lol. yep, i will miss him. a lot.




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